VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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Talcum Powder

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The appropriate decisions/edits to PD 13 to keep things moving and dev cycle shorter:
(building from Dr Fapalot's post above)

Morning:
Aiden's 4th - School, Unless 1st "Comfortable" solution is applied then the location might change.
Don Morello - Casino or Phone only

Noon:
2nd Side Job - Myers' Residence
Sophia arrives and tells Eva she's had a new opportunity to pick up another class and quits. An no, she doesn't want to say goodbye to the boys, she's gotta run. End of.

Dylan/Ellie - Parker's Residence

Afternoon:
Sophia/Sam - Parker or Robinsons' Residence
Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) - Claire's Beauty Salon
Sophia calls and cancels the appointment because she's running late (who knew Sam could hold out for so long despite Sophia's best fellatio techniques??). Reschedules for PD 32.

Evening:
Sophia/Dylan - Parker's Residence
Sophia, Ellie, and Emma/Dylan - Parker's Residence or Another Place?
Sophia: "Where's Emma?"
Dylan: "I told her to get the fuck out of this story cuz I got better prospects with you and Ellie."
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
I have no doubt that, at some point, Sam is going to have permission from Sophia to watch her from his tree house.
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I think you may have missed my point in that just because the treehouse is there, doesn't in the slightest mean as nexer was seeming to suggest that it meant that Sam was going to get Sophia in the treehouse this update.
Talcum Powder said:
The appropriate decisions/edits to PD 13 to keep things moving and dev cycle shorter:
(building from Dr Fapalot's post above)

Morning:
Aiden's 4th - School, Unless 1st "Comfortable" solution is applied then the location might change.
Don Morello - Casino or Phone only

Noon:
2nd Side Job - Myers' Residence
Sophia arrives and tells Eva she's had a new opportunity to pick up another class and quits. An no, she doesn't want to say goodbye to the boys, she's gotta run. End of.

Dylan/Ellie - Parker's Residence

Afternoon:
Sophia/Sam - Parker or Robinsons' Residence
Sophia/Claire/Marie (with Dylan) - Claire's Beauty Salon
Sophia calls and cancels the appointment because she's running late (who knew Sam could hold out for so long despite Sophia's best fellatio techniques??). Reschedules for PD 32.

Evening:
Sophia/Dylan - Parker's Residence
Sophia, Ellie, and Emma/Dylan - Parker's Residence or Another Place?
Sophia: "Where's Emma?"
Dylan: "I told her to get the fuck out of this story cuz I got better prospects with you and Ellie."
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Why keep Dylan/Ellie? Anything not directly related to Sophia/(Dylan, Sam, Ellie or Patricia) should be moved to DLC, if it means L&P keeps to 1 playable day per 6 months.

And yes, I do realise this includes my own OTP of Ellie/Juls. But if it means the game actually gets sustainable instead of cancelled, I can live with that.
 
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Jude6

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Brother Robert said:
I don't know, don't show her climbing up the tree?

But since L&P is L&P we will probably get that as a pointless render.
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If he's smart he'll either skip the 'Sophia clambers into the tree-house' render entirely... or give us a reason to want to see it.
Say Sophia shows up in a skirt and Sam, gallant young horn-dog that he is, insists on Ladies first.
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
"June is completely unrealistic!"

This update will be out in late November.
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I'd be "happy" if that was the case. Weird, saying that leaves me with a bitter taste in my mouth. Gonna have to brush my teeth now.

I'm still waiting for the annual bullshittery, though. Wouldn't be a real L&P release without a cataclysmic event delaying it by a month or two.
 
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Jude6 said:
If he's smart he'll either skip the 'Sophia clambers into the tree-house' render entirely... or give us a reason to want to see it.
Say Sophia shows up in a skirt and Sam, gallant young horn-dog rhat he is, insists on Ladies first.
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I get you, but the ladies first up skirt is well trodden and unoriginal and oh so gauche.
 
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ancienregimele

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Update end of Oct/early Nov? Really, could it be true? Too good to be true? If it is, what's been edited out? There's such a choice of what should go in the short-term but I'm not going to suggest it all again. I've been talking recently about a radical rethink. When business prospects appear not to be sustainable in the long-term, that often happens. Sometimes plans are laid & implemented. Sometimes they work.....to an extent.

Why not get rid of everything except the incest? Then I could cheerfully stop playing & so could many others. There would still be enough paying patrons to sustain AWAM for years. Even Dylan's turgid but over-inflated story could move at a faster (by L&P standards) pace. Let incest be unbounded. That's the answer & don't forget to make Dylan an official 2nd MC. That could be the radical overhaul the VN needs. Isn't that what the inclusion of the word "Mother" in the game title was for?

Even this thread could become shorter & faster. Basically it could reduce down to, 'which of my children will be first, or will it be my sister?' Why not make that a subtitle & it could attract a horde of new fans to more than make up for those who've left? In fact why not make the tits even bigger & have some icing on the cake? Huge breasts are inextricably linked to incest fantasies & another increase would send a powerful signal to fans of all preferences.

I've mistakenly made suggestions in the past while thinking of the existing fanbase, (as far as I thought I knew it) but that fanbase has changed over the years. An obvious solution to the longevity & speed issues is to focus on the core of the business/VN, which is now undoubtedly incest & ditch the rest, as redundant.
 
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ancienregimele

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Sabertooth__ said:
Well you are definitely unhappy, which is understandable but I believe nothing has been cut out atleast from the main Sam scene.

If we look at it his development pace this time it has been far better than previous times except for the Sam concert scene. Going by his normal pace for this update it isn't unrealistic for an early Nov release.

At present it is just Sam and Sophia in the scene. Only pose changes for two characters for every render. Too easy for him. Next scene with Cathy is also not going to be complicated. All he needs to do is prepare a room. Which shouldn't take long as the concert setup was done is 3-4 days itself.

If I had to pick a date I would say around 10th November.
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You're right, I'm not happy but although the suggestions I've made in my last post are written with cynicism, they're still actual possible outcomes/genuine solutions. I think like this because it must be apparent to most fans that 20+ years 'til game's end & 7+ years until extra-marital sex are just plain ridiculous. Everything in that post is the exact opposite of what I'd prefer but could still provide answers, of sorts, albeit answers I would hate (with bells on). Big challenges often require radical solutions.

Whatever anyone thinks, I believe that something has to change, or give, before too long. Lack of communication about the game's direction from the Dev comes as standard & won't alter. Long waits between updates leads to a lot of basically pointless speculation, of which I'm as guilty as the next person. It used to be an enjoyable way to fill the gaps but now?

I sincerely hope we do have an update by mid-November.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I sincerely hope we do have an update by mid-November.
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Considering that he has 25% more to go on both CS and Rendering, and It usually takes him about two to three weeks to code, I would probably say that Mid-November is the best-case scenario right now. Unless he manages to complete CS and Rendering (100%) by the end of the first week in October, that is the only way I see this coming out by the end of October.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
Considering that he has 25% more to go on both CS and Rendering, and It usually takes him about two to three weeks to code, I would probably say that Mid-November is the best-case scenario right now. Unless he manages to complete CS and Rendering (100%) by the end of the first week in October, that is the only way I see this coming out by the end of October.
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This year is beeing a tragedy. Two updates in a year of 2/3 of a playable day. LP needs to show that this has been an exception, that he needed 6 months for the first update of the year because the tecnically complicated scenes of the last update with many new characters and environments, because he had the surgery in Korea and because he had the problems with the graphic cards. An accident.
Now it is the opportunity to show that he can come back to updates each 4 or 4 1/2 months, and he needs to be working in the next update of playsble day 13 with a good advance at the end of the year. This update is a good opportunity to speed the game (in LP' s terms of what is speed), except the biker bar, all the environments are repeat and there are few very known characters in the principal scenes: Sophia and Nathalie in the house; Dylan, Ellie and Christine in the house or near; Patricia in the car picking Sophia in the house. Sam and Sophia in a little space (car, hut, room...). The last scene is short but it would take a bit of time because it probably will have two ways ( with or without Sophia) and the environment will be new. But it will be only a house and the characters are kown. At the beggining I said that it would be ready at 30th october, I was very optimist, now Iam in the hope that the update will be ready between the 10st and the 15st of november.
 
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