VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[palmtrees89]

The last time I played was around v100 or so. Is v130 worth taking a look again or is the added content minimal?

v115 isn't terrible I guess. v130 is, well, if you like spicy content with elementary school kids it's worth it I guess. Not for me, though. Both updates are kinda short aswell, so you probably won't miss much if you wait a couple more years.

Edit: Forgot to mention another one of Aiden's tasks in v130, but you be the judge there. Some people really liked this one, others didn't.

 

[raavan1]

Well i think end of october is posible!!!

No..no..i think begining of november...

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

If I have known English better than I should have answered you.

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[BRTT]

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[palmtrees89]

If I have known English better than I should have answered you.

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[TommyTuba]

Who was that guy like over 2k years ago... Oedipus I believe. Hmmmmm!

I bet his mother was HOT!

 

[Sabertooth__]

If I have known English better than I should have answered you.

What everyone is saying to you is to do either of these

 

[Sabertooth__]

When I was 12 I had a picture of Natalie Wood, (as she appeared in "The Great Race"), near my bed, so I could wake up & look into her big brown eyes. All teenage & tweenage hetero boys want to sleep with women of all types, although I disagree about the "all ages" part but we're all entitled to our own proclivities. What most of them don't want is to sleep with their own mothers. I don't pretend to understand Dylan, or even the current staggering popularity of the incest fetish in general.

What I've never done is to try & spoil the fun of those who do support this kink. So I don't want this next part to be taken the wrong way but have to ask, why it is that we never seem to find much mental torment on the part of the sons within the crop of incest sagas? I will stand corrected if you know of good examples. I don't because I don't play these games anymore.

It's almost as if the sons pursue the mothers with an "all's fair in love & war" approach, as they would with any other woman. Incest is not the pursuit of any other woman. It wouldn't be a fetish or taboo if this were the case. Maybe AWAM would gain in realism if Dylan stopped sometimes to at least wonder why he wanted to fuck the woman who gave birth to him? An answer such as, 'why do you need to ask, just look at her' is not an answer but just proves my idea of the any other woman approach.

I really like this point of yours. Indeed this is something that needs to be taken into consideration. The guys in porn games are always portrayed as people who can't think of anything but sex. Except for the husband of the woman that everyone wants to fuck. Every single time.

It would really be adding a lot more character to Dylan if he would also feel conflicted about pursuing his own mother. Similarly for Ellie. At present however Ellie is not actively pursuing Sophia I would say, it's difficult to explain but Ellie is more like contended with whatever she gets as opposed to Dylan. I believe we all can see the difference between the two so I won't try to explain it. It's difficult.

But later down the line when Ellie does realise she is actively pursuing her own mother sexually, the same question should occur to her as well. Firstly because she is not a lesbian as she says and secondly she is much more mature. So it would make sense for her to think like this.

All in all a nice point you made

 

[Michael Rawson]

Dylan is not looking out of the window at all times. He is probably playing on his pc and when he does that, as Ellie states both her and Sophia could be standing naked behind him and he won't know. So there's hardly any chance he would even be aware of this.



One more scenario can be, he is not at home. We don't know if Dylan Ellie event will end with them going out somewhere, who knows.



Also do you think Dylan has any authority to question his mother why she is wearing a certain dress. Also Dylan encourages Sophia to dress sexy, Example the Aiden 2nd event dress. So it's no problem I feel

Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.

 

[Sabertooth__]

Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.

We are not sure if he is in the room. Just because I am normally at home at night doesn't mean you can guarantee I am at home every single time. You can only make an assumption. Dylan has more of a habit of playing on his Pc with his headphones on so he probably won't even hear the car. Ellie's dialogue regarding that backs my assumption.

The teaser with Christine has a car in the background so who knows maybe they do go out.

Sam didn't tell Dylan about getting to see Sophia's areola so anything further will also not be revealed by him. He's not going to risk losing it all by telling Dylan.

The problem with the dress is not that a middle aged woman can't wear it. It is the place she wore it to that we all are against. Sophia and woman of Sophia's age can wear such clothes and in real world they do. Sophia does dress sexy it is just that she doesn't do it frequently. At the beach she has no problem wearing a bikini infront of Dylan.

The dress is totally normal I believe, definitely not what a slut wears. The dress is classy. So the whole argument of questioning his mother why she is dressed like a slut is invalid. Also we don't know if Sophia has worn this dress for Sam, it is your presumption nothing more.

Ofcourse a son has the right to question. But he can only question her casually not in a reprimanding way, there's a difference. Only Liam has the right to do that.

Also if Dylan's mother and friend are around together at night. You don't question your mother about it with suspicion. You talk to your friend about such suspicion and don't start doubting your own mother.

Who said that he wants Sophia dressed sexy only for him. Even when the twist is removed he still supports Sophia when she wears the outfit for the second task knowing full well that the whole school will see her dressed like that. The outfit was definitely more revealing than this concert one. So he definitely is not against Sophia dressing sexy in public.

 

[Old Dog]

Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.

The dress Sophia wore for Aiden's task 2nd task shows more than the outfit that she wore for the concert and also the dress for the prison visit was more revealing.
Did Dylan look bothered when he noticed that his mother had changed her dress while visiting Alyssa?
Sophia wore the yellow dress in front of Dylan and he even said himself that it would look better without a bra, so I don't see Dylan having any problem with his mother wearing such outfits.

As for Sophia only dressing sexy for him, well you are in for a big shock further down the line.

 

[ancienregimele]

Are we not exactly sure that Dylan is in his bedroom or is he out with ellie? Because at night, Dylan has the habit of watching his mobile or TV in the living room, rather than the bedroom. And if Dylan already knew his mother had gone to the Sam show.He's looking forward to Sophia coming home. Even when he is in his bedroom, Sophia arrives home and immediately he learns that she is here.Then he can come talk to her. And everyday As soon as Sophia gets home before and after leaving the house, Sophia comes into her children's room (i.e. Dylan and Ellie's room), see them and talk to them.Then she has the habit of going to her room and changing her clothes.This has been shown many times since the beginning of the game.In one of these scenarios, Sophia can get caught and he can ask about it.

As we all know Sam is a Big Pervert.And he is not the one who keeps to himself the feelings of the mind and what he has seen, he has the habit of telling everything to Dylan or someone else. Maybe one day he'll tell Dylan that thing, Then Dylan gets angry and He could question Sophia for that matter. Sophia may not have answered Dylan's questions at the time. Maybe if Sophia went to the concert wearing a modest dress and Dylan saw her with Sam, he wouldn't have to question her. But I think you noticed that dress and even discussed it. The dress Sophia wore to the show, even those women of her age, would not go to the show wearing such dresses.But she goes to the show wearing a dress for the sake of Sam and the way he likes.

When she returns home with Sam, And reveals that the dress she is wearing is very revealing drees, like a dress worn by teenage girls and she looks like a street slut. When Sophia is seen at night with Sam wearing a short and hot dress, they are usually suspicious and question her about it. He would definitely question her if he saw sophia dressed like that at night and with Sam. Both Liam and Dylan have the right to question her when Sophia makes a mistake and finds her going the wrong way. Also, Dylan is her son, so he easily questions her on that subject. In real life, wouldn't any son question his mother when he saw his mother dressed in short and hot clothes and be with his friend during the night? And do you think he looks at them like that at the time and doesn't question anything about it?

That twist in the story has already been removed. Dylan has nothing to do with the aiden deal in the story. The answer to that question is that Dylan wants to see his mother in sexy clothes, true, but Sophia only wants to wear sexy clothes in front of him and with him, but he doesn't want to see Sophia in a sexy outfit with his friend or anybody else.

Any son can question their mother but they have no right to expect a civil answer, especially if they are of the, "where have you been?". "what do you think you're wearing?" variety. Those are questions parents ask of teenagers. Dylan is the child, Sophia the parent. Sometimes that seems to be forgotten in Dylan's behaviour. Dylan has the rights of a child, Sophia the obligations & responsibilities of a parent. Much less is Dylan a guardian of his mother's morals. They're not equals & that's one of the problems Dylan should be thinking about. As for Dylan getting angry, that's presumptuous, to put it mildly. Dylan can't tell his mother where to go, what to do, or even who to see. Even if he's 18, that side of the relationship won't change.

If any questions were to be asked, it is for Liam to ask them. Affairs break up marriages & long-term relationships. They can lead to untold misery for a wide range of people, not just the two lovers. They can lead to mental breakdown, violence, even murder & suicide. Incestuous affairs can have even worse consequences. If, as we expect, it is planned that Dylan will fuck his own mother at some point in the future, these are issues that will need consideration. I should say that they'll need it, if this VN is to be anything more than just another puerile "hot Mom, son with big knob" fantasy, albeit one that takes 20+ years to reach such a point.

 

[BRTT]

Dylan has to have sex with his mother and his sister is missing only that

 

[fatiht]

Scenes with home-schooled kids was hot in my oninion. Also liked the painting scenes. Looking forward to the new update. I have missed the MC

 

[BRTT]

Someone can give save pls ?

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[Michael Rawson]

Also if Dylan's mother and friend are around together at night. You don't question your mother about it with suspicion. You talk to your friend about such suspicion and don't start doubting your own mother.

If Dylan's mom and friend are together at night. It is good for you not to doubt and question your mother. I agree with you and I really like it. But whether you talk to your friend about such suspicion when you see them together once or twice. In that case, if the friend does not answer it correctly, you can forget about it as well. But don't you question your mother when you see them repeatedly and together?

The dress Sophia wore for Aiden's task 2nd task shows more than the outfit that she wore for the concert and also the dress for the prison visit was more revealing.
Did Dylan look bothered when he noticed that his mother had changed her dress while visiting Alyssa?
Sophia wore the yellow in front of Dylan and he even said himself that it would look better without a bra so I don't see Dylan having any problem with his mother wearing such outfits.

As for Sophia only dressing only for him, well you are in for a big shock further down the line.

Well I agree with this. Because when Sophia wears a little revealing dress in front of him, Dylan is shown in the game as he likes it, And he expresses no opposition to it. But in the next days of the game. Sophia can go out with somebody else wearing a too little short and very revealing outfits. Perhaps there are many such scenarios throughout the game, Even though Dylan sees her dressed that way. If he shows that he likes the situation without responding to it and oppose it. Doesn't Dylan's character appear as a dummy and a poor character in the story? That's my argument, that's it .

 

[JamieSadistic]

Just popped in to say this...

 

[Dunav]

I Like how most of you really seek some kind of logic in the game. Believe me the developer of sex game where he builds huge amount of money, don't care at all of the personality of his characters. All he wants is to give you enough content to masturbate, so you can keep coming back again and again to the game after every new release. This is not a book, it is a sex game!
I was such a strong believer that this game will be different from the others, because at the begging there was almost no straight sexual scenes. Sophia was very realistic mother and she slowly started to get blackmailed but she never ever let her self to go over the limits. At the very moment when she start to let her children to masturbate in front of her like this is TOTALY normal and every mother dose that I knew that the game is going out of the shape.

 

[Onlygoodgames]

I don't know why, but most of all I like the bathroom scenes.

 

[nexer]

Sophia is invited to the concert when/if Sam has maximum points, no other conditions.
During the concert in relation to Cathy we have two situations (Sophia refuses Aiden's 3rd task or continues) we have a message/call scene from Liam.

The situation where Liam meets Andy/Cathy alone was unrealistic from the start.

If Sophia returns home with Patricia I think Sam's route cools or disappears.

Once home Sophia will change clothes being the same scene for both routes (with or without Aiden).

We can think of two situations: Sophia waits for Liam or she goes alone to Cathy's apartment.

My guess is she will wait for Liam and they will leave together. I say that because this situation gives the possibility of another round between Sophia and Sam. If she leaves alone she would go straight down to the taxi/car, but if she waits for Liam, once dressed she can go out to the backyard waiting for Liam. The situation would limit Sam's hand access to too many of Sophia's assets . The next teaser, depending on how Sophia is dressed, will tell us how far Sam's hand goes.
I say all this under the assumption that L&P will not break Sam's event in two, before Cathy and after Cathy



If Sam's part 2 takes place in the backyard it can also be used for the "dylan_cuckold" route, and Liam can create a situation to L&P's liking: coitus interruptus.