VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[Old Dog]

seriously man. Dylan has seen her naked breasts, grabbed and massaged her butt, he also saw quite a bit of Sophia down there. He was also present during the yoga event. And the biggest difference....

DYLAN HAS NOT NEEDED TO USE ALCOHOL EVEN ONCE IN THE GAME TO MOVE FORWARD.

Also she loves Dylan more than Sam anyday.

No,he just pestered the hell out of Sophia till he got what he wanted

 

[Old Dog]

Ofcourse, you have to be careful, cause even if might save himself through technicalities, he wouldn't want any unnecessary trouble with Patreon.

Are you being sarcastic young lady?

 

[Sabertooth__]

No,he just pestered the hell out of Sophia till he got what he wanted

Well didn't Sam play the poor guy, "I can't sleep" "it's your fault" and other emotional blackmails to get to see that little areola. Plus always trying to get alcohol into the mix

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

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So for now, there is no hope for improvement, maybe even slower updates hmmm, we'll see what will happen in 2 years, I hope he will manage to speed up his work.

I don't believe I've ever seen this sort of criticism from the Patreon page. If this is representative of recent activity on both the Patreon page, and in the emails he's receiving, then it helps to explain the sudden transparency. When I was a patron I very rarely saw criticism, and never this blunt. If this is the mood of his patrons, then without change it spells doom for AWAM.

 

[Old Dog]

Well didn't Sam play the poor guy, "I can't sleep" "it's your fault" and other emotional blackmails to get to see that little areola. Plus always trying to get alcohol into the mix

He has not brought alcohol in in his last two events and yes Sam is not perfect and they all have there different styles in trying to seduce Sophia but Dylan's was like bull in a china shop,dumb/reckless with no real direction.
Sam last event was sooooooooooooooo bad that I almost threw up,creepy/cringe worthy event it was just bad so very bad

 

[nexer]

I don't believe I've ever seen this sort of criticism from the Patreon page. If this is representative of recent activity on both the Patreon page, and in the emails he's receiving, then it helps to explain the sudden transparency. When I was a patron I very rarely saw criticism, and never this blunt. If this is the mood of his patrons, then without change it spells doom for AWAM.

I don't think the endgame is important. Some routes will be quite dark for Sophia.
If he progresses enough on as many routes as he can in a 2 year term it's pretty good.

 

[nexer]

Are you being sarcastic young person?

Was "young lady" first. Stop scaring me

 

[Old Dog]

Last two ?? The hot tub event does have wine involved. Day 18 event does not have alcohol and apparently without alcohol there he made zero progress physically with Sophia.

So Sam used the alcohol to his advantage and if Sophia had not had a bottle with her then nothing would of happened.
I thought that the Sam event before last Sam did give Sophia a finger tip massage that got Sophia hot under the collar so I would say that he made some progress in this event

 

[Old Dog]

Was "young lady" first. Stop scaring me

I am trying to be political correct

 

[nexer]

I am trying to be political correct

Sabertooth__ is a she?

 

[Sabertooth__]

So Sam used the alcohol to his advantage and if Sophia had not had a bottle with her then nothing would of happened.
I thought that the Sam event before last Sam did give Sophia a finger tip massage that got Sophia hot under the collar so I would say that he made some progress in this event

He definitely wouldn't have gotten so far without the wine. The reason why she was allowing the kiss to go as far as it went was the wine weakening her will. There was even dialogue where it is said that alcohol was playing a role in what was happening.

 

[TomUK]

I have been a "He" so far in my life. Can't tell if the future entails something different

Can never tell these days with the 123+ different sexes.

 

[Old Dog]

He definitely wouldn't have gotten so far without the wine. The reason why she was allowing the kiss to go as far as it went was the wine weakening her will. There was even dialogue where it is said that alcohol was playing a role in what was happening.

Plus the alcohol at the bar as well I guess but it is getting tiresome for me to hear the same old excuse from Sophia concerning alcohol

 

[TeamEquipe]

This game is turning into a sex ed game for virgins and the only thing that worries me is how many virgins does San Alejo have?

About as many as there appears to be on this thread.

Alcohol is the single, biggest reason men get into womens panties. And if anyone doesn't know that, then they've never had a girlfriend of any description.

 

[Taker Fan]

Plus the alcohol at the bar as well I guess but it is getting tiresome for me to hear the same old excuse from Sophia concerning alcohol

I am with you with that.
But than she let him touching her at the 2nd Pool Event + she got turned on by that (hard nipples). And also she hoped that he was watching her touching herself. So I am thinking that this time the alcohol "thing" was more an excuse for her.

 

[Old Dog]

I am with you with that.
But than she let him touching her at the 2nd Pool Event + she got turned on by that (hard nipples). And also she hoped that he was watching her touching herself. So I am thinking that this time the alcohol "thing" was more an excuse for her.

true now his singing voice has come into play

 

[Taker Fan]

true now his singing voice has come into play

Yes. and also she said to herself, that he was a dream guy for her. But then she was later on Liam *bla bla bla*.

 

[hzjujk]

I too think that this novel is starting to get dark/unpleasent and the MC attitude is starting to annoy me as well.
How often do we hear the thoughts/consequences of Sophia's actions?
It would seem that as long as Sophia gets pleasure in what she is doing(forced or otherwise) she is happy and fuck the consequences of her actions.
We don't see any remorse/guilt from Sophia so how much longer can she use alcohol as an excuse for her behaviour.

The reflections on her behavior that we at Sophia have sparse and often remain on the surface. That was most evident when her husband almost caught her cheating. L&P caused her to experience panic because she had to hide her betrayal but did not feel too deeply guilty. With this superficiality of her person one is surprised that Sophia has remained loyal to her husband and her family so far.
But this is a porn game. The developer cannot afford a lot of internal struggles, which I see again and again in some of the comments here that do not understand the whole discussion about internal dialogue at all. Normally the next Sam event would be characterized by the fact that Sophia totally rejects Sam. No more Sam points! Even if Sophia is in love with Sam, closing the last event might have acted like a reset switch. Sam would have to give in and hope for a chance later. Really believes an L&P dares to write something like that. The shit storm that would break in on him would be gigantic. If I as a player don't make the decision for Sophia, after the next Sam event she will be exactly the irresponsible slut that we actually didn't want to see in her. Perhaps this is exactly the intention of L&P, the player has to fill in the missing building blocks of the inner monologue and then make a decision. Sophia is just an avatar.

 

[Taker Fan]

The reflections on her behavior that we at Sophia have sparse and often remain on the surface. That was most evident when her husband almost caught her cheating. L&P caused her to experience panic because she had to hide her betrayal but did not feel too deeply guilty. With this superficiality of her person one is surprised that Sophia has remained loyal to her husband and her family so far.
But this is a porn game. The developer cannot afford a lot of internal struggles, which I see again and again in some of the comments here that do not understand the whole discussion about internal dialogue at all. Normally the next Sam event would be characterized by the fact that Sophia totally rejects Sam. No more Sam points! Even if Sophia is in love with Sam, closing the last event might have acted like a reset switch. Sam would have to give in and hope for a chance later. Really believes an L&P dares to write something like that. The shit storm that would break in on him would be gigantic. If I as a player don't make the decision for Sophia, after the next Sam event she will be exactly the irresponsible slut that we actually didn't want to see in her. Perhaps this is exactly the intention of L&P, the player has to fill in the missing building blocks of the inner monologue and then make a decision. Sophia is just an avatar.

True. But as we know, we have the choice for her to rejact him (No Sam Points). The Other choice we get the Sam Points with a little step forward betweeen them.

 

[lockerxx]

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