VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[darji]

Hello everyone, I wanted to express my opinion, which is that the creator, could or should make more frequent updates, in my opinion if it took six months to make more or less 800 renders, it could divide them into between six months more or less and publish the game monthly or every two months with 125 renders and the wait would not be so long. I don't know if your employers should give you this suggestion. This opinion is my personal and I do not criticize the work of the creators, I only see that I could do it this way. Greetings to all.

thats the new plan. One event at a time

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

Well, all I can is if you feel that way then that's just your thought. I never felt anything breaking continuity. Sophia has never been completely innocent. Women love her lingerie and wouldn't want strange men touching them and so she lashed out at the mover. Beyond that, it is more or less your choice how she reacts.

Humans are not simple beings with a single dimension to them. There can be innocent people with dark secrets and sides to them. Maybe the guy who is the sweetest in the world does actually have negative thoughts about everyone around him. Yet the reason why he could still be a good man is because he never lets those negative thoughts overpower him. Similarly it's not like Sophia might have never thought that another guy is hot and she would want to fuck him even though she is married. Her love or loyalty towards Liam just prevented her.

If you just limit ones personality to a single act and never try to judge them for their whole, sometimes your assessment of the person will be wrong. There is more to people than you can see in a few days.

And this scene to me didn't require a suspension of disbelief. It didn't break character but added a little more to all these 4 characters of the scenes. We get to see how these people are with ones that they actually consider close. A bit more about their relationships in the past.

on this we agree to disagree

 

[nexer]

I reread the scene with Cathy. Andy and Cathy have been together for 8 years, no infidelities. We won't have a bachelorette party, their meeting will replace the party.
One night and only one before the wedding. One last fantasy.
Liam's message was interesting: if I know, if I'm there, if it's just one date....

 

[Old Dog]

I reread the scene with Cathy. Andy and Cathy have been together for 8 years, no infidelities. We won't have a bachelorette party, their meeting will replace the party.
One night and only one before the wedding. One last fantasy.
Liam's message was interesting: if I know, if I'm there, if it's just one date....

It will very interesting to see/feel the consequences of there actions the night after

 

[nexer]

It will very interesting to see/feel the consequences of there actions the night after

When were we expecting this scene?

A lot of things can go wrong for Liam
If Liam breaks the six-minute record, bad.
If Andy beats Liam's record, bad.

 

[Old Dog]

When were we expecting this scene?

A lot of things can go wrong for Liam
If Liam breaks the six-minute record, bad.
If Andy beats Liam's record, bad.

A lot of things could go wrong maybe Liam will not like seeing his wife having sex with Andy or Sophia not like seeing Cathy with Liam,Liam has said on numerous occasions that people can look at his wife but nothing more.
Sophia was the one that brought up adding spice to there marriage(sex in his office) either of there performances can have an effect on Sophia/Liam but I think that one will like the experience and the other will not.
Whatever the result of this one night I am sure it will have consequences for Sophia/Liam

 

[nexer]

A lot of things could go wrong maybe Liam will not like seeing his wife having sex with Andy or Sophia not like seeing Cathy with Liam,Liam has said on numerous occasions that people can look but at his wife but nothing more.
Sophia was the one that brought up adding spice to there marriage(sex in his office) either of there performances can have an effect on Sophia/Liam but I think that one will like the experience and the other will not.

Or they'll both like the new experience and invite Sam to spice up their sex life
We don't have another pair for swap.

 

[Old Dog]

Or they'll both like the new experience and invite Sam to spice up their sex life
We don't have another pair for swap.

I was thinking more along the lines of the two side jobs for Sophia, now that she has experienced group sex.
Also will her porn fantasy come true with Andy fucking Sophia as she sucks off Liam or will Cathy/Sophia put on a show.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

Anybody else getting this error message here like every 15 minutes or is it just me?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

 

[Old Dog]

Anybody else getting this error message here like every 15 minutes or is it just me?

Yep and I wish that they would finally sort this shit out

 

[Old Dog]

I think that the consequences will be another swinger event, this time with DeShawn and Vicky and/or Nathalie with his boyfriend.

I see Deshawn/Vicky/Nat+ boyfriends for Sophia and not for Liam,Liam has met Nat but I think that they are a journey for Sophia to travel

 

[roro]

Don't know how broken english, a lack of a relistic story, sentences no one would ever say out loud and lack of continuity in Sophia's corrupted mindset don't break your so called "immersion" in AWAM. Dylan going from a kid-like model to a 17+ model in 1 game day doesn't break your immersion?
Sophia's tits changing like balloons don't break your immersion? Sophia's face changing throughout the game.. still immersive?

Actually, still wondering how the hell can immersion work in a 2d picture from your screen. If we were talking about VR games, sure, now this? lmao

If you play awam, I guess all the renders done until 2020 break your "immersion" then. Be careful not to load an old save or start a new game.

Oh and it's not that I don't care about quality, I do. But the gap in quality does not justify DPC bringing 3000+ more renders and an extra 350(?) animations with 2 more months of work.

Have you played the new update? The cathy/andy scene took 2 weeks to make. Default asset (the travel bag wasnt even touched), L&P's lights, posing 4 characters talking while sitting in the couch. 15 renders. 2 weeks. Let that sink in. If you got fooled believing this guy is working 11h a day like he says, good for you, but he's not fooling the majority anymore.

I'm not a native English speaker myself, so unless it's a really shitty translation, it doesn't bother me, though I can totally understand those who are bothered by it.
Yes, I don't like all the changes he made to the models etc, but I can live with it, because I can understand his reasons. I believe most of the changes are due to the fact he became better and learned a lot during those 4 years, and as you can also see, there are less changes in the last updates.
And maybe immersion isn't the right word here, as I said English isn't my 1st language, but when I see a crappy render it bothers me. As for Awam's renders, since the 4th update or so it's renders quality is better than most games and since the last 5-6 updates it's the best in my opinion.
And yes, I played the update, and I noticed that Andy and Cathy's event which took 2 weeks is more like 40 renders and not 15. It's the last event so it doesn't end when Liam and Sophia got out of the apartment, but when the update ends. that's also the time when he could have build the gallery and changed the interface (he said it was ready before P&T started). So yeah, two weeks is a lot of time, more than I would have wanted, but when you exaggerate like this and keep repeating it when it's not true (15?), it mostly shows something about you.

 

[nexer]

I was thinking more along the lines of the two side jobs for Sophia, now that she has experienced group sex.
Also will her porn fantasy come true with Andy fucking Sophia as she sucks off Liam or will Cathy/Sophia put on a show.

However, I think Sophia's ultimate fantasy is a gangbang as proof that she can handle herself in any situation. But all step by step.

 

[Old Dog]

However, I think Sophia's ultimate fantasy is a gangbang as proof that she can handle herself in any situation. But all step by step.

I seriously doubt that Sophia can handle a gangbang but she did fantasize about two guys at once and what it would feel like so I would 3-4(mixed) people at most.
If Sophia couldn't handle Antonio at a low speed(she stated that she hates losing control) then what chance would she have with say 4 males at once?
I also think that this fantasy "gangBang" has been blown out of all proportions and people put 2+2 together and came up with 6.I have always said that the "GangBang" would be not as people expected.

 

[palmtrees89]

People saying that there'll likely be no bachelorette party makes me kinda sad. This could potentially turn into a really hot event for Sophia&Co. Just imagine Sophia, Ellie, Patricia, Kathy and possibly Amber(?) with a couple big dick strippers. lol

Sophia and the other ladies could get wild with them, maybe even a little touchy with a willy or two. And for Alley_Cat, there could be a female stripper taking care of Ellie...

Just imagine all the spicy scenes possible with a setup like that. But instead, we might be getting a swinger night with Andy and Kathy in a decade or two. Wooohooo ...Nothing wrong with that, but I'd much prefer a bacholerette party with a bunch of wild (and drunk) ladies, to be honest.

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

I can see it added later as DLC content, maybe if he brings back coach Sophia and her soccer players, unless she becomes a groupie for Sams "Bed Wetters" band. HAHA

 

[Old Dog]

People saying that there'll likely be no bachelorette party makes me kinda sad. This could potentially turn into a really hot event for Sophia&Co. Just imagine Sophia, Ellie, Patricia, Kathy and possibly Amber(?) with a couple big dick strippers. lol

Sophia and the other ladies could get wild with them, maybe even a little touchy with a willy or two. And for Alley_Cat, there could be a female stripper taking care of Ellie...

Just imagine all the spicy scenes possible with a setup like that. But instead, we might be getting a swinger night with Andy and Kathy in a decade or two. Wooohooo ...Nothing wrong with that, but I'd much prefer a bacholerette party with a bunch of wild (and drunk) ladies, to be honest.

It was stated by Cathy and Andy that there would not be a bachelorette party and the partner swopping was offered instead as a better solution.

 

[palmtrees89]

It was stated by Cathy and Andy that there would not be a bachelorette party and the partner swopping was offered instead as a better solution.

Yeah, such a wasted opportunity for a spicy fun event with the ladies, in my opinion. Having no bachelorette/bachelor party before the wedding is kinda weird anyway, if you ask me. And even weirder to turn it into a swinger event instead. Like, that's something they could always do. Not like it would change anything, married or not.

A bachelor/ette party, on the other hand, is supposed to be the last opportunity for both partners to get their hands dirty with someone else other than their loved one before marriage. Atleast where I'm from that usually involves strippers for both the husband and wife. Not particularly cheating, but, you know, getting kinda dirty. lol

If L&P wants to go this way, so be it. I just feel like that it's a massively wasted opportunity for a potentially great event. He could even turn the bachelor/ette party into a swinger night with Sophia and Liam if he wanted to. Atleast for me that would make this entire thing more believable, thinking that both couples would be horny and drunk after their parties, and one thing could lead to another. Oh well.

 

[GingerSweetGirl]

To add to the conversation about Sophia's sexuality, and her corruption vs innocence; I think there's a very simple explanation. Sophia's sexuality is inconsistent and is fully dependent on what the narrative requires. This happens in just about all AVGs that aren't simple porn games. The industry hasn't matured to a point where characterization is 100% consistent. Sophia was very sexual in college when it's convenient for the plot. But she's impossibly naive and pure when it's required for the plot. Things like Sophia not knowing what "MILF" stands for are eye roll inducing. This is the same woman who thought it would be acceptable to jerk off two kids for "sex education"? Yeah right. She needed to be sexual enough in college so that she could have children young, but then be innocent so that a corruption plot could work. It's enough to give you whiplash.

This biploar approach to storytelling is rampant in the industry. It will continue to be this way as long as developers feel like they need to cater to fetishes across the spectrum. So when I see this problem in AWAM I really can't blame L&P because almost every game I play could be accused of the same thing.