VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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Dr.SigmundFap

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ancienregimele said:
As a more detailed explanation of how I see it, yes it's a case of how far you go according to path(s) & choices. That being said, from my POV, this renaissance woman having her own inexperienced offspring's fully erect penis inside her is, the ultimate degradation, i.e. as far as she can go. That, for me, is when she becomes totally irredeemable, (rather than as a sex slave, slut, prostitute or whatever, all of which have as much erotic appeal to me as a rotten potato). It's a happy ending for some but will never happen anyway because if it is, as many have assumed, to be promoted as some sort of climactic act, (pun intended..... Dylan's not Sophia's), it's likely to be at the end of the game, currently on track to occur in the early 2050s.

I almost hope that it will happen & repay the loyalty of the fans of incest. (I won't be playing it, so I'm not moralising). I also want to see the 12th task & what happens afterwards, even if it ends up as something of an anti-climax, (weak pun intended). At present this is due in 20 years time or less, e.g. after this update the next task won't be due for at least another 2-3 years.

Realistically, there's no chance any of this is ever going to be seen. L&P's by-line should be, "How long can this last?"
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I understand your discontent for not liking Sophia and Dylan engaged in possible coitus as everyone has their taste in erotic themes, but here is a question for you. When you play and comment on your story path, I believe you said Dylan is with Emma now in your storyline. So, where is the potential for coitus between Sophia and Dylan in your path? Did you lock out the incest part? I believe you did when you chose Emma to hook up with Dylan, so it shouldn't take place in your story at all, right? So how is it that Sophia will be irredeemable if it's not in your choices for Sophia and Dylan to hook up????

The problem that you have is it's in the novel as an option period and knowing that it was an option before you choose to download it and play. But like you, I'm not too fond of Blackmail, and I don't understand why people enjoy it. I don't get how people get off on inflicting harm to people by forcing them to do things they don't want to do, which eventually leads to manipulation, in this case, sexually, which also can look at as sexual assault. To me, that is Sadistic, but I have the option to avoid it. And I wouldn't say I like the second side job either and think it should be removed or added in as a DLC, but we know that's not going to happen, So the next option I have is to avoid it altogether and choose the first side job.
 
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Dr.Fapalot said:
I understand your discontent for not liking Sophia and Dylan engaged in possible coitus as everyone has their taste in erotic themes, but here is a question for you. When you play and comment on your story path, I believe you said Dylan is with Emma now in your storyline. So, where is the potential for coitus between Sophia and Dylan in your path? Did you lock out the incest part? I believe you did when you chose Emma to hook up with Dylan, so it shouldn't take place in your story at all, right? So how is it that Sophia will be irredeemable if it's not in your choices for Sophia and Dylan to hook up????

The problem that you have is it's in the novel as an option period and knowing that it was an option before you choose to download it and play. But like you, I'm not too fond of Blackmail, and I don't understand why people enjoy it. I don't get how people get off on inflicting harm to people by forcing them to do things they don't want to do, which eventually leads to manipulation, in this case, sexually, which also can look at as sexual assault. To me, that is Sadistic, but I have the option to avoid it. And I wouldn't say I like the second side job either and think it should be removed or added in as a DLC, but we know that's not going to happen, So the next option I have is to avoid it altogether and choose the first side job.
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There is no potential for a Sophia & Dylan sexual relationship in my playthrough. That was my point in a previous post, wishing the blackmail-haters a satisfactory outcome, via the opt out with Don Morello (because we all know how helpful & undemanding the Mafia can be) & hoping they'd be as happy as I was when I started to get Dylan into a normal teen relationship & off Sophia's back. I will also freely admit that I hope that the blackmail will now become more demanding.

I had answered in the belief that we were talking in general about the game's by-line & what it meant to different fans. I gave an honest answer. My POV is that fucking with Dylan is the lowest level of unforced debauchery, or more politely, the 'farthest' that Sophia can go. I certainly wouldn't be playing it, if it were ever to exist. That doesn't invalidate it for incest followers, it's just an opinion.

I understand incest only in terms of the breaking of a taboo but not how that translates into any erotic appeal. You see blackmail as sadistic & it is to an extent but that's what sex fantasy stories are for, i.e. immersion in things that would be totally unacceptable in RL. I like war films but wish for peace, I read murder mysteries but don't want to commit, or witness a murder, etc. I'd rather have a (fictional) good woman coerced into out of the ordinary sexually charged activities, than see her voluntarily allow her son access to her private parts. You see blackmail as sadistic. I see incest as perverted. We just have to deal with that in a spirit of mutual respect, or, if not, "suck it up" in that useful U.S. phrase.

I downloaded AWAM, without reading any tags, on the strength of San Alejo vistas featuring Sophia & Patricia but in the knowledge it could have incest, as so many games do now. I have to admit that I didn't think it would be so prevalent but I've found ways to live with it, or skirt round it.

At least we agree on the second side job. I pretend it doesn't exist, or that it's like the ludicrous "imaginary stories" inflicted on readers of DC comics when I was at school, e.g. 'what if Jimmy Olsen was an alien?', 'when Lois Lane got superpowers' & so on. There came a day when I discovered the first appearance of Dr. Octopus in The Amazing Spiderman & never read another DC comic. AWAM is now branching sufficiently to allow followers of the various paths to have a game/VN more to their liking. It's just a pity about the update schedule.
 
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ancienregimele said:
I understand incest only in terms of the breaking of a taboo but not how that translates into any erotic appeal. You see blackmail as sadistic & it is to an extent but that's what sex fantasy stories are for, i.e. immersion in things that would be totally unacceptable in RL. I like war films but wish for peace, I read murder mysteries but don't want to commit, or witness a murder, etc. I'd rather have a (fictional) good woman coerced into out of the ordinary sexually charged activities, than see her voluntarily allow her son access to her private parts. You see blackmail as sadistic. I see incest as perverted. We just have to deal with that in a spirit of mutual respect, or, if not, "suck it up" in that useful U.S. phrase.
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I have no desire to have sex with anyone in my own family, but the thought of a prim and proper neighbor lady with her own son or a teacher with her own student? I would find that highly erotic. At least as a fantasy. The breaking of the taboo is what I like about it. Romantic love stories are anything but erotic to me.
 
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яεvεяรε ƒłครн said:
Yet another Better game than John
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When I played I wasnt impressed at all. Matter of fact I deleted it. Thought the mom was okay and the daughter not attractive is a good way to describe her. LOL I will circle back and give it another try, but I was underwhelmed. Same with the Beast. Thought it was a poor start.
 
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fute8848 said:
I am new here , how long this game is in developing?? From 2017?? OMG:rolleyes:
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Hello. If you go through the whole game from start to finish along all possible routes, then you will have no questions about the development time of the game. I can assure you, of course, if you really pay attention, read all the dialogues and text, and not just look at the pictures.
 
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eastdot. said:
Thank you!

Took me about 20 minutes.
The hardest part is finding the assets like clothes, the rest is fine.
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This is unreal cool and fast! Please continue, of course, when you have the time and desire! I think a lot of people will appreciate it! Ps/ You can even, create your own masterpiece! I know, it probably takes a lot of time and resources, + you need a good motivation), but as they say at us, it is not harmful to dream! ;):lepew:
 
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