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Wow. In my line of work I've grown to be highly suspicious of anyone making such claim.
Animations in an erotic game are superfluous. That is something of an understatement. If you need animation to experience a little death because your erotic imagination is not enough, then you are either already totally jaded or dangerously close to senile abstinence.
We get a short animation of a beautiful woman. She simply works through our imagination, because she is a purely virtual character, nothing more. Some have wished for something like this after the Jennifer animation. Now you got it and it doesn't matter if Sophia is naked or not because Animations in an erotic game are superfluous!!!!
You ungrateful pirate pack
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We get a short animation of a beautiful woman. She simply works through our imagination, because she is a purely virtual character, nothing more. Some have wished for something like this after the Jennifer animation. Now you got it and it doesn't matter if Sophia is naked or not because Animations in an erotic game are superfluous!!!!
You ungrateful pirate pack
!While I reckon that there are some very nice animations in many games (the bonus scene among them), **personally** I don't feel the their need in VNs. And in particular in AWAM, which got my attention because of the subtle eroticism, the slow burn and the "showing without showing". Plus a MC decently developed with her emotions and inner thoughts giving a very good immersion. And still, with a lot of space for our imagination to create our version of the story and the characters.Animations in an erotic game are superfluous. That is something of an understatement. If you need animation to experience a little death because your erotic imagination is not enough, then you are either already totally jaded or dangerously close to senile abstinence.
We get a short animation of a beautiful woman. She simply works through our imagination, because she is a purely virtual character, nothing more. Some have wished for something like this after the Jennifer animation. Now you got it and it doesn't matter if Sophia is naked or not because Animations in an erotic game are superfluous!!!!
You ungrateful pirate pack
In a way, to me, VNs and animations (especially this late in the story) are like watching the movie after reading the book it is based on. There is always the delusion or the deception of seeing a character depicted in a different way or a scene played out differently than imagined. Now, obviously, the distance between the single still frame of a VN and a video is not that big, but still the animation, IMO, prevent the mental exercise of the imagination.
I know, it may be silly, but for example just watching Sophia fully animated for the first time gave me that little moment of "is she really like this, is that her walk?". And I'm not in any way criticizing the animation and its quality, which is good under many aspects as I already said.
I'm just saying that, to me, at least at first, it takes away something rather than adding. (obviously if we had animations from the very beginning it would have been a completely different story in that regard).
Or, probably, it's just a small, pathetic rant of a guy from another generation
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You're right to be wary of anyone making such claims about artistry or anything else, and I agree, it was pointless to do so and worthy of ridicule. Anyone can claim to be anyone from their keyboard.
Yes, I have an academic background in art but you can believe what you want. I could also say I'm a spaceman, road sweeper or a politician, so it was foolish.
I was attempting to qualify my praise for this latest animation because my earlier comment was mocked and lampooned, as was this dev's latest animation. Nothing new on this thread.
Fact is, "art" is a very wide church. Animation in modern form should be (and is) regarded as artistic expression, just as early animations of Disney certainly were. Vintage movies like "Dalmatians" were made by highly creative artists with pen and brush creating multiple thousands of drawings and pictures put into a kaleidoscope of film. Now we have all kinds of computer generated devices capable of breathtaking virtual animation, pushing boundaries at breakneck speed. It must be incredibly exciting to work in.
Credit to L&P for giving it a go himself, trying to improve and develop. Also giving us something for free.
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Fantastic analysis, wonderful graphics puts us more in the picture. Thanks.I admit that I was in a rush when I did that experiment.
First I went back and fixed the light direction to be similar to the image.
Please, consider that before today I have logged like 2h of serious use of blender, mostly rendering pre-made assets.
So apologies to Sophia (and everybody in the thread) but I was only able to replace her with a vertical post just to mark her position, which is now very close to the original IMO.
This is a perspective view of the scene *similar* to the origin.
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Top view
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And side view (Sophia POV may be higher than that, the proportions are probably wrong, but the point is that the higher/taller you are the less the view is occluded by that small fence on the edge)
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Now when it comes to render there are many variables to take into account, among which the focal length. Here is a render from that POV with a 17mm focal length which is *approximately*You must be registered to see the links(simplifying a lot the idea).
She may not recognize the face but for sure she can see that there are people other than Aiden.
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The render I did in the other post was with a 36mm (i.e. more zoom in), here is another with 25mm
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So I'd say that she will see the other gang members. And, please, don't take me too serious (never!
Back to the animation, I really liked the cinematic effect he gave to the walk, with the camera backing up following Sophia and slowly getting lower to finally give a view from the bottom up of Sophia in all her splendor when she stops. For sure L&P knows how to create nice scene and chose the right views, now even in the camera motion he's showing a certain taste for these cinematic effects.
if I had to make a small remark, though, is that it would have been more convincing if at the end, when she stop and look at the scene in front of her, her facial expression changed to a different expression to show that she was worried/surprised/whatever of what she saw. That would have given more value to the animation (which, I get it, is to start experimenting with the tools and so on). Maybe it is not visible due to the resolution (as in the details are lost in the video compression).
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I have no idea how difficult it is though, I guess animated expressions are very difficult in blender. I'll let the serious artists speak about that.
I'm afraid to click on it - what is it going to do to my mind? Will I ever be the same again? What cleaning product should I use?
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No, no, no, this is not animation, everything will be fine, only when animation happens, there is a shift of reality, a new reality, and a cruel bad trip.
Don't ruin this forum with your snobish protointelectualistic virtue signaling, please. The animation is technically good - but its a complete miss-allocation of resources. The audience wants animations of groping, fingering, licking and fucking of MC.
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I’d much prefer if L&P took a few practice swings, as he did with Andre/Jennifer/Aiden in the last update - characters that no one is too bothered about - and with a simple animation of Sophia to work out any issues with that model, rather than using a Sophia sex scene as his training round.
BTW,not only is this animation really good but I think the sound is really good, too.
Wait a minute, this dress looks familiar...
from https://f95zone.to/threads/demon-boy-v0-4-eromersive.85881/
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I think i finded this mom in real lifeWait a minute, this dress looks familiar...
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Good that you think that. Ready for the game to become even slower for some animations? I'm not sure I am.
Also, it's an animation of her walking!
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The animation is decent, but yeah. It's not worth it slowing development down even further for this. It's already been slow enough last year when we still had 1/3rd PD updates without animations as it took way over a year to finish PD12. Right now we're looking at 2+ years for PD13, so no matter how good the animation, it's just counterproductive in the end. What this game needs is story progression, not more features.
If L&P could atleast produce 5-6 renders per day as he did on 0.150 last year while adding animations, fine. Would still be snail speed, but atleast he wouldn't of cut the production rate in half for it.
People here defending an animation which took importing the assets and a 1 and a half hour tutorial on youtube to make her walk are the reason he keeps milking.
Also, can you tell me why did the production drop from 6 renders per day to 3 renders per day? According to his words, he's not the one doing animations, so why the delay?
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Dude, where you been? Game development has been getting slower for a half a decade. New delay tactics have been the soup de jour for years. This is not a surprise, or at least shouldn’t be. But at least this is a delay that results in something I can enjoy.
L&P has been 100% consistent on exactly one thing: it’s his artistic vision, he’s gonna do what he wants the way he wants at the pace he wants. I am not defending or endorsing or happy about this, but as a non-paying fan I do accept it.
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Yeah, I'd love an answer to that. I'm sure some of his lawyers here are already working overtime to explain this.
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My stance the entire time, from before we even knew 100% that the "special thing" was animations, is that yes, LP's animations would be very high quality. He wouldn't let them in the game is they weren't. But regardless of quality, they wouldn't be worth it.
Even though that walking animation is very good, significantly better than standard Daz walking animations where the girls boobs bounce so much they're liable to give her a concussion. It isn't worth delaying this already small update even more.
The logic of practicing animations on non-major characters and simpler walking animations before trying them on Sophia (or any of the main cast) sex scenes is sound. But at this rate, we're never going to get there. And that was true before the animations too. Those sex scenes are literally years away. Animations or not.
So I've accepted this game has a tiny chance of being completed, if any chance at all. But I'd still like the game to progress as much as possible. And the animations are not contributing to that goal. In fact, they're doing the opposite. It's completely counterproductive and unnecessary. But LP will do what he wants in the end, so if he wants to produce 1 day of content every 2 years. I guess more power to him.
Even though that walking animation is very good, significantly better than standard Daz walking animations where the girls boobs bounce so much they're liable to give her a concussion. It isn't worth delaying this already small update even more.
The logic of practicing animations on non-major characters and simpler walking animations before trying them on Sophia (or any of the main cast) sex scenes is sound. But at this rate, we're never going to get there. And that was true before the animations too. Those sex scenes are literally years away. Animations or not.
So I've accepted this game has a tiny chance of being completed, if any chance at all. But I'd still like the game to progress as much as possible. And the animations are not contributing to that goal. In fact, they're doing the opposite. It's completely counterproductive and unnecessary. But LP will do what he wants in the end, so if he wants to produce 1 day of content every 2 years. I guess more power to him.