VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[PaxHadrian17]

Some people here disagree with what you said about Sam because that pygmy, Frodo loser Dylan has been so far behind making any progress with Sophia in the story. that's why, they post contradictory statements about Sam here. Who here can't stand the fact that Sam is the only one who makes the most progress with Sophia and has romantic scenes in the entire story. That's why they don't agree with anything you say about sam.

Although no one admits anything about Sam, the only person Sophia really likes and loves is Sam. Sam's route is a special route in the game. Sophia has a special relationship and bonding with Sam.

I'm not sure what you are trying to say here...

Are you saying you like Sam and you will ignore anything that makes Sam look like a weasel??

The focus of the conversations you quoted had to do with the Sophia Sam relationship and Sam's manipulation of Sophia.

Does Sophia tease Sam (since he is a sneaky lying weasel who went into her house to spy on her)? Yes - she thinks she is teaching him a lesson.

Do things get carried away with Sam where Sophia has the choice (good wife or filthy path) to shut him down or to treat this as relatively harmless - yes.

While the hot tub scene was erotic, Sam went from a guy making out with Sophia and playing with her tits to a guy taking advantage of Sophia who had to hide Sam from Liam.

She did not expect that Sam would take advantage of her, but he did, knowing that Sophia would try to hide what he was doing to protect her marriage and family.

Sophia has readily admitted that she likes Zach. We will likely have years to see what actually comes from that but the same is true of any major physical intimacy between Sophia and: Sam/Dylan/Andy & Ellie/Patricia/Nathalie.

Since you want to keep bringing up Dylan, let's compare renders and story narrative once this PD is over and see who has gotten further.

That means we will come back to this comparison in 2023.

 

[bayrischman]

Wasn't it when she put tape on her nipples for a lesson with little devils?

yes

 

[Dan5k74]

we are getting treated this time it is hyping up a big event

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In front of the Robinsons' house, Sophia thinks it'd be best to just tell Amber/Neil that Sam invited her for another guitar/cello lesson.

Her goal, however, is to draw a line with Sam because things can't go on like this. Last night she narrowly escaped a catastrophe.

Often L&P's teasers have been so misleading as to raise unnecessary expectations and concerns on the pages of this thread, but this time I am inclined to think that if he wanted to emphasize this (seemingly insignificant) moment, it's for a valid reason.
In fact, in my opinion, Sophia's visibly worried expression (in addition to what happened the previous night with Sam) can be traced back to what possibly happened with Neil last Saturday night (Day 14). If I am not mistaken, this should be the first occasion that Sophia would see Neil again since (eventually) he tried to take advantage of her after spiking her drink.
If I were her (which I actually am since I play impersonating her character) the mere thought of it would petrify me to the point where I could not utter a word. I would therefore not be surprised if she cut the conversation with the Robinsons short and ran for refuge to an otherwise safer place like Sam's room.
I have often on the pages of this thread read posts about real life (often in my opinion confusing what is real with what we like) and how much this game more or less conforms to it. In this regard I think nothing (at the moment) is more realistic than what is described in the bleak episode involving Sophia and Sam's father.
A few years ago I visited, with what was then my girlfriend, an art exhibition entitled "What Were You Wearing?": the stereotype-impregnated question that is often asked by investigators of rape victims and which presupposes the idea that the woman could have avoided rape if she had worn less provocative clothes.
It consisted of a series of white panels where replicas of the clothes worn by women of various ages at the time they were raped were displayed along with a brief narrative of the victim's story.
What I saw were mostly: sweaters, jeans, floral dresses, suits, jumpsuits, pajamas, work uniforms, and what I read told of violence occurring in: schools, workplaces, and especially homes. This is because in almost all cases it was not thugs, bikers or gang members who raped those women, but people they knew and trusted such as schoolmates, co-workers and relatives.
In this respect, Neil's sexual predatory act accurately reflects reality. And the behavior subsequent to that act on Sophia's part is also, unfortunately, an aspect equally dramatically corresponding to reality.

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In fact, often women victims of violence, in order not to ruin a friendship or make other people suffer, tend to minimize the first dangerous warnings of these predatory behaviors and, by remaining silent in the face of these warnings, end up facilitating their tormentors in the "work" of ruining their lives forever.
I hope, therefore, that L&P does not continue any further with the relevance to reality on this sad subject and that somehow (though I don't see how at the moment) there is an opportunity for a partial redemption of Neil's character (though again I don't really see how). At the same time, however, I would be a little disgusted if, sooner or later, along any path, this lack of realism came to somehow allow Neil to realize his dream from his college days.

Spoiler: No treats for the bad dog

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[S4nd M4n]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-170-lust-passion.5944/post-8534978

THANK YOU

 

[Sadowdark]

I don't know if anyone has already posted this, in case apologies for the redundancy.

I forgot about this detail in the first guitar/cello lesson:

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She is referring to what happened during the modeling/role-playing with Liam the evening before, where she was caught by Sam and Dylan
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So there is a sort of "deja vu" in the upcoming event, of course it's a very different and more important "we need to talk" now. And she really went there for the lesson, the talk was more incidental. But, still, it is somehow interesting that a similar pattern repeats.

And if you are wondering what she said to Sam here are the dialogues.

Spoiler: In case you need a memory refresh like me ;)

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If we take the hints from the 2nd teaser, the excuse will be the cello lesson. The guitar is still at Sophia's, as far as we know, and like for the first lesson, the cello is more difficult to move downstairs. So she has the chance to be alone in Sam's room to talk about the evening.

I don't know how Sam will react, whether he will understand and, at least at first, accept it, or he will play the pity card or he will be more adamant and insistent with the bold and cocky attitude that he showed the day before.
In the last two cases there could be some escalation (e.g. him trying to have a last kiss or something similar).

In any case, I think that at some point they need to start playing some cello to avoid a suspicious silence.
For example, in the two cases above there could be some noises in the corridor (or that cracking step Amber mentioned in the other event) or e.g. Amber passing by and asking from the corridor how things are going.
That interrupts the "first escalation" and to avoid any suspicion (she cannot really leave too quickly as that would raise some questions, unless she finds another excuse for urgent matters) they will move on and try to focus on the musical instrument. Only for things to escalate again after a while.

I think this will be a similar conversation about what happened in the jacuzzi ?

 

[kozmo]

hello i have looked through 1000's of pages for a 100% part 1 save so i was wondering if someone has one plz and thank you

 

[Sadowdark]

Often L&P's teasers have been so misleading as to raise unnecessary expectations and concerns on the pages of this thread, but this time I am inclined to think that if he wanted to emphasize this (seemingly insignificant) moment, it's for a valid reason.
In fact, in my opinion, Sophia's visibly worried expression (in addition to what happened the previous night with Sam) can be traced back to what possibly happened with Neil last Saturday night (Day 14). If I am not mistaken, this should be the first occasion that Sophia would see Neil again since (eventually) he tried to take advantage of her after spiking her drink.
If I were her (which I actually am since I play impersonating her character) the mere thought of it would petrify me to the point where I could not utter a word. I would therefore not be surprised if she cut the conversation with the Robinsons short and ran for refuge to an otherwise safer place like Sam's room.
I have often on the pages of this thread read posts about real life (often in my opinion confusing what is real with what we like) and how much this game more or less conforms to it. In this regard I think nothing (at the moment) is more realistic than what is described in the bleak episode involving Sophia and Sam's father.
A few years ago I visited, with what was then my girlfriend, an art exhibition entitled "What Were You Wearing?": the stereotype-impregnated question that is often asked by investigators of rape victims and which presupposes the idea that the woman could have avoided rape if she had worn less provocative clothes.
It consisted of a series of white panels where replicas of the clothes worn by women of various ages at the time they were raped were displayed along with a brief narrative of the victim's story.
What I saw were mostly: sweaters, jeans, floral dresses, suits, jumpsuits, pajamas, work uniforms, and what I read told of violence occurring in: schools, workplaces, and especially homes. This is because in almost all cases it was not thugs, bikers or gang members who raped those women, but people they knew and trusted such as schoolmates, co-workers and relatives.
In this respect, Neil's sexual predatory act accurately reflects reality. And the behavior subsequent to that act on Sophia's part is also, unfortunately, an aspect equally dramatically corresponding to reality.

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In fact, often women victims of violence, in order not to ruin a friendship or make other people suffer, tend to minimize the first dangerous warnings of these predatory behaviors and, by remaining silent in the face of these warnings, end up facilitating their tormentors in the "work" of ruining their lives forever.
I hope, therefore, that L&P does not continue any further with the relevance to reality on this sad subject and that somehow (though I don't see how at the moment) there is an opportunity for a partial redemption of Neil's character (though again I don't really see how). At the same time, however, I would be a little disgusted if, sooner or later, along any path, this lack of realism came to somehow allow Neil to realize his dream from his college days.

Spoiler: No treats for the bad dog

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[Sadowdark]

hello i have looked through 1000's of pages for a 100% part 1 save so i was wondering if someone has one plz and thank you

You have a save here, I don't know if 100%

Here you have my Filthy + Lesbian "Save" updated to the current version. (updated to v0.170).

Edit: Seeing that some people prefer actual saves, here you go. So you have:

• The pdf guide showing where each save comes from.
• The set of saves from 0.150.
• A final save from 0.150 (generated at the end of Page 3 [2,2] #10A2 from the pdf).
• A set of native saves from the updated version following this path.

Regards


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[arobet33]

How old is Jacob?

 

[Whitekink]

Err....18, of course

Who knows?!

 

[Sabertooth__]

How old is Jacob?

As per L&P the oldest brother is 16 ( Simon ) and the other two ( Philip & Jacob ) who were born at the same time and are 15 yrs old.

 

[Count of Passion]

How old is Jacob?

30 years old, a rare form of the disease, makes them look younger than their years

 

[Ass Fan]

Often L&P's teasers have been so misleading as to raise unnecessary expectations and concerns on the pages of this thread, but this time I am inclined to think that if he wanted to emphasize this (seemingly insignificant) moment, it's for a valid reason.
In fact, in my opinion, Sophia's visibly worried expression (in addition to what happened the previous night with Sam) can be traced back to what possibly happened with Neil last Saturday night (Day 14). If I am not mistaken, this should be the first occasion that Sophia would see Neil again since (eventually) he tried to take advantage of her after spiking her drink.
If I were her (which I actually am since I play impersonating her character) the mere thought of it would petrify me to the point where I could not utter a word. I would therefore not be surprised if she cut the conversation with the Robinsons short and ran for refuge to an otherwise safer place like Sam's room.
I have often on the pages of this thread read posts about real life (often in my opinion confusing what is real with what we like) and how much this game more or less conforms to it. In this regard I think nothing (at the moment) is more realistic than what is described in the bleak episode involving Sophia and Sam's father.
A few years ago I visited, with what was then my girlfriend, an art exhibition entitled "What Were You Wearing?": the stereotype-impregnated question that is often asked by investigators of rape victims and which presupposes the idea that the woman could have avoided rape if she had worn less provocative clothes.
It consisted of a series of white panels where replicas of the clothes worn by women of various ages at the time they were raped were displayed along with a brief narrative of the victim's story.
What I saw were mostly: sweaters, jeans, floral dresses, suits, jumpsuits, pajamas, work uniforms, and what I read told of violence occurring in: schools, workplaces, and especially homes. This is because in almost all cases it was not thugs, bikers or gang members who raped those women, but people they knew and trusted such as schoolmates, co-workers and relatives.
In this respect, Neil's sexual predatory act accurately reflects reality. And the behavior subsequent to that act on Sophia's part is also, unfortunately, an aspect equally dramatically corresponding to reality.

View attachment 2035358​

In fact, often women victims of violence, in order not to ruin a friendship or make other people suffer, tend to minimize the first dangerous warnings of these predatory behaviors and, by remaining silent in the face of these warnings, end up facilitating their tormentors in the "work" of ruining their lives forever.
I hope, therefore, that L&P does not continue any further with the relevance to reality on this sad subject and that somehow (though I don't see how at the moment) there is an opportunity for a partial redemption of Neil's character (though again I don't really see how). At the same time, however, I would be a little disgusted if, sooner or later, along any path, this lack of realism came to somehow allow Neil to realize his dream from his college days.

Spoiler: No treats for the bad dog

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I liked your comment but I hope something happens with Neil and Sophia even if it's some teasing it's making Neil want her for a long time and also if L&P wants he can even make a secret romance between the two if he wants

 

[Ass Fan]

As per L&P the oldest brother is 16 ( Simon ) and the other two ( Philip & Jacob ) who were born at the same time and are 15 yrs old.

Damn I thought they were 18 or less like 17 lol I haven't played it yet can you give me some spoilers about what happened this time in sex education class between Sofia and the boys?

 

[Sabertooth__]

Damn I thought they were 18 or less like 17 lol I haven't played it yet can you give me some spoilers about what happened this time in sex education class between Sofia and the boys?

None of the younger characters are above 18. Ellie is 17, Dylan 16, Sam 16, Zac 16, Julia 17. I think only Aiden is 18.

In the 2nd job you get to see

Spoiler: The 2nd Side job Life Model scene.

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[Ass Fan]

None of the younger characters are above 18. Ellie is 17, Dylan 16, Sam 16, Zac 16, Julia 17. I think only Aiden is 18.

In the 2nd job you get to see

Spoiler: The 2nd Side job Life Model scene.

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Thanks man, it's good to know everyone's age because I only knew Dylan and Ellie's age, not the others

Now going back to the scenes wow I'm speechless... I can't believe this has already happened Sophia is already progressing very well with the boys that's what I like to see I'm going to play now thanks for the spoilers and the rest.

 

[armion82]

Damn I thought they were 18 or less like 17 lol I haven't played it yet can you give me some spoilers about what happened this time in sex education class between Sofia and the boys?

Massive spoiler for you.

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[Ass Fan]

Massive spoiler for you.

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Thanks for that Sophia looks so sexy with the ribbons it's always nice to see her there fully nude or almost but I have to say she would look amazing with her underwear also with ribbons covering her pussy

 

[dannypurp]

Not a very bad update

 

[HentaiKami]

With how some people go on about Sam, or any other favourite character of theirs, it's like they've lost slight touch with reality and fallen in love or something like that with that character. It has been fun to read though.