Juidas

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When there was no flashback of Sophia.
she was a woman who fell in love with her first love, Liam, at a relatively young age, became pregnant and married. (many people would have thought so)

When Sofia's flashbacks appear.
she was promiscuous from her childhood, that she had sex with several men, and that she had sex with Liam, and when she became pregnant, she became the woman who married him.

The two are completely different in content and feel.

There's a reason so many people complained when the flashbacks appeared, saying, "Sophia turned into a whore."
Maybe Sophia has always been promiscuous and before they moved she was having sex with different guys in the neighbourhood and in particular younger guys but thought that as she was moving she would start afresh and try to be loyal to her husband but just cant contain her inner slut (or at least I hope she was like this) :)
 
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armion82

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BTW will we still have 2 hetero sex scenes on PD16?
Because I was thinking one of the 2 will be a story how Sophia lost her virginity-the last update wasn't suppose to have that story,but something changed the dev mind.
Or the only possible on PD16 Dylan sex scene-Dylan/Emma.All other LI for Dylan are out of question for PD16.
 
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jeroen07

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BTW will we still have 2 hetero sex scenes on PD16?
Because I was thinking one of the 2 will be a story how Sophia lost her virginity-the last update wasn't suppose to have that story,but something changed the dev mind.
Or the only possible on PD16 Dylan sex scene-Dylan/Emma.All other LI for Dylan are out of question for PD16.
This is PD 13. So no action on this date.
 

dkatryl

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yes.

I think he realized at some point that he couldn't continue the story this way.
Or I think there must have been pressure from sponsors.

But his methods are so wrong.

Like I've said many times, he delayed the story too much and piled it on too much, so he ended up driving himself into a corner, and as he admits, he can't handle this anymore.

He should have started years ago what he was about to do now.

If he did, he wouldn't have done anything to change Sofia's past, and he would have been able to make Dylan's growing up (the changing process) convincing enough. not Dylan's setting change.

Also, even without the flashbacks, it would have been convincing enough for Sophia to change her behavior after moving to the big city. if had the principal or Neil pressured her a little more, if had progressed her relationship with Larry a little more, if had Sam and Sophia had sex.
I have suggested at some point in the distant past that what L&P should do, instead of flashbacks, is daydream/fantasizing sequences where she could have the already present internal dialog, and expand upon it with rendered scenes.

She's at the club getting felt up while tipsy, or taking a shower with the janitor, completing Aiden tasks, or the recent things with Sam/Dylan, or whatever scene in question.

Let the scene go to a point, then when going for filthy wife points, Sophia finds herself allowing herself to fantasize about the scene, letting the fantasy play out, which lets us get a scene that actually goes somewhere but without committing Sophia into set in stone actions.

Then at some point, she comes to from mid fantasy, to find whomever was trying to get intimate with her ended up getting further than she had intended, allowing her to put the brakes on.

But then, as fantasy after fantasy plays out, she finds it harder to put the brakes on, getting closer to succumbing as events happen, until finally one time it is no longer just a fantasy and she gives in.

That lets L&P do both a slow build *and* show scenes that go beyond 'fabric touching' that doesnt rely on a flashback, which would also further show the steady corruption.
 
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Rajesh Ram

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I played so many games in the last few days one mandatory scene common in every game is Dress Changing in shopping mall ,

And also another common thing is they End up having Sex after the Date Night,
Same thing happened in Life in Santa Country , Monkey Business , The Awakening both Mom Son end up having sex after Date Night,

I think same thing is gonna happen in between Sophia and Dylan aswell after Date Night :).
 

Woodalicca

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I played so many games in the last few days one mandatory scene common in every game is Dress Changing in shopping mall ,

And also another common thing is they End up having Sex after the Date Night,
Same thing happened in Life in Santa Country , Monkey Business , The Awakening both Mom Son end up having sex after Date Night,

I think same thing is gonna happen in between Sophia and Dylan aswell after Date Night :).
Sure ? Confident ? Is that your last word ? :HideThePain:
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My goodness, how naive do you have to be to believe that Sophia can't have a past that doesn't match her current behavior.

The problem is that just because the storytelling hasn't revealed something yet doesn't automatically make it unfitting.
The Relism, which L&P has declared in the game description, refers in my understanding to deep characters and realitic graphig. He certainly didn't mean that the game should have a story that works in the real world.
How is 'realism' deep characters and realistic graphics?
No realistic characters and deep graphics?

In fact, realistic characters, realistic graphics, and realistic storytelling are 'realism'.
Please don't play with words.

In general, no one should forget that AWAM was never a real world realistic game.
this is what you said:
"My goodness, how naive do you have to be to believe that Sophia can't have a past that doesn't match her current behavior."

You accept or deny 'reality' according to your needs.

There are so many events that would not fit into the normal world, that it is almost ridiculous when someone demonizes the nightclub scene.
If you're talking about me, I'm not demonizing it, I'm saying it doesn't fit.
The reason, like you said, because "that would not fit into the normal world"

The fact that so little has happened in AWAM so far is not because nothing would ever happen, but only because less happens at the beginning of a game with curruption than at the end.
yes.
"that so little has happened in AWAM so far, or less happen." for six years.

The story elements around Dylan, Ellie, Sam, Patrica, etc. are essential core of this game. Remove that, and the game loses its value.
this is what you said:
"The problem is that just because the storytelling hasn't revealed something yet doesn't automatically make it unfitting."

the storytelling isn't fully revealed, how can you be so sure it "Remove that, and the game loses its value"?

You need to hold yourself to the same standard you hold on to other people.
And you have a bad habit of subtly twisting words or making puns.
 
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rAmSiMaL

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There are a TON of events in this game so far that would be unlikely to happen in real life, especially involving a woman like Sophia, who is middle aged, well-educated, and seemingly an upstanding citizen. But surprising things happen in life all the time. My wife, who is generally pretty conservative, had her first sexual experience when she was 17 with a man in his 40s. Later in her life, especially now that we have daughters that age, she looks back and sees that experience as unsettling. But she didn't at the time and for many years after.

My reading of Sophia is that she is a very sexual person who let her sexuality get buried by society, her job, her family, etc. Now she is having a mid-life crisis, exacerbated by an inattentive husband. Mid-life crises are common, as is being tempted by and attracted to younger people, especially if they show interest in and attraction back. Sophia is trying to tamp down her sexual feelings, especially knowing they could get her in serious trouble, but (if you make filthy wife choices) she doesn't succeed. And while I'm confident that teachers do not routinely jack off their young students in sex ed classes, how many times do we read or hear about female teachers having sex with their teen/adolescent students?

If you've read Aristotle's views on suspension of disbelief, he makes a distinction between what is possible and what is probable. He advocates that creators should adhere to what is probable to avoid audiences feeling just what you are feeling. Normally I agree with you (and Aristotle). If an event is too improbable in a work of fiction, it feels contrived. But this is a porn game and if there wasn't any sex in it, then AWAM would be an abject failure. And yet, because her actions and character type are totally possible (we have many examples in real life) I find AWAM realistic enough to be wonderfully erotic.
Speaking about reality and if teachers could have sex with students we have a great example… that of the president of France Emmanuel Macron. He is married to his high school teacher ;)
 

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Speaking about reality and if teachers could have sex with students we have a great example… that of the president of France Emmanuel Macron. He is married to his high school teacher ;)
So she cheated her husband with whom she had three kids to go sleep with a 15 year old and then left him to marry the kid after he grew up. I don't know if it is a love story or a grooming story cuz reverse the roles and it sounds fkin horrible.


Also a good plot for a AVN.
 

joelurmel

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You are all going too far by judging...
It's just forum for discussing about a game, not a stupid politic tribune or whatever else where you can lining anyone just by pleasure or because you have not a boner...
 

rAmSiMaL

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BTW will we still have 2 hetero sex scenes on PD16?
Because I was thinking one of the 2 will be a story how Sophia lost her virginity-the last update wasn't suppose to have that story,but something changed the dev mind.
Or the only possible on PD16 Dylan sex scene-Dylan/Emma.All other LI for Dylan are out of question for PD16.
No, Sophia narrating her first time experience is not the 1st hetero scene described by LP. A few months ago I asked him about these 2 hetero scenes and he replied…
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No, Sophia narrating her first time experience is not the 1st hetero scene described by LP. A few months ago I asked him about these 2 hetero scenes and he replied…
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Please let lp know that if Sophia is not having sex then it doesn't count. We are here to watch Sophia get her shit pushed in. Not to watch Dylan fuck his sisters friends. Or adien have a 3some with Jennifer and Andre.
 
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