VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

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0.19 version Combined Edition i can not find?!

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

Guys, 3 different scenario progressions fail. where am i doing wrong. Why don't the stories continue?

I would be glad if someone who knows someone can answer. thanks.

Something is off. I had to go back to saves from 0.180 and make sure I warned Sophia at the hair salon, for this choice was not carried over. Also, other paths seem to have not received even a single image in this update. I hope those saves will work in the future...

 

[dan_roger69]

No I played until 6,
7 is not released yet I guess.

Chapter 7 was released earlier today, so I was checking with you.

 

[rdtree]

Oh my god, that update was so hot and made me so wet I'm shaking. The slow buildup is so well done it should be in a textbook somewhere. Those fan pages don't hold a candle to this creator. Wow!

 

[lockerxx]

Please no! That was my first worry when I seen this scene!!! LOL

we will know the truth in a few days.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

Do you mean on the path where she refuses Aiden and sends Dylan to boarding school? Is that the path where Dylan is out and about and Aiden didn't find him to kick his ass?
If that's the case, no matter how many thugs he has in his gang, I don't think he can or wants to scour the whole town looking for him constantly. He isn't some mob boss that wants to find someone that stole from him. In the end he is an entitled kid with a powerful uncle, that talks a lot of shit. A lot of people talk more shit than they can actually deliver. Aiden gives the impression of that more than someone who would break a sweat just to find Dylan if he is on the boarding school route.

If you are talking about the normal route, she is keeping him happy, so Aiden has no reason to touch Dylan, per their agreement.

But the self defense midget boss fighter is so funny. I think L&P kind of painted himself in a corner with Dylan being such a little bitch towards Sofia but wants him to look like a man somehow so he keeps giving him unrealistic attributes.

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In my reply I pointed out the Aiden rout was the weakest. The points you made just bear that out further. You got a bully, Aiden, with a gang... he gives tasks to Sophia that do nothing for him. Instead of making a play for Sophia himself. The entire rout is flawed.

First you can send Dylan to boarding school; or Sophia can go through these tasks. Not to mention Dylan gets some special training and ends up beating up a drunk in the park.

Ok--So a kid on a power trip doesn't want to have sex with Sophia and just makes her do stupid things. I imagine the boarding school would hinder any Dylan/Ellie development in the story but doesn't seem to be the case. Somehow in a few training sessions Dylan can kick ass... it took me a little longer than a few days to become proficient in hand-to-hand combat.

See what I mean why this story arch is flawed?

 

[redalert213]

I know it takes a little longer to get the Mac version out, but can I get an ETA on that, please?

 

[jeffqc]

So the developers are on the verge of realizing the double grandiose milking plan of milking in reality and milking in the game is so exciting!

 

[ihl86]

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In my reply I pointed out the Aiden rout was the weakest. The points you made just bear that out further. You got a bully, Aiden, with a gang... he gives tasks to Sophia that do nothing for him. Instead of making a play for Sophia himself. The entire rout is flawed.

First you can send Dylan to boarding school; or Sophia can go through these tasks. Not to mention Dylan gets some special training and ends up beating up a drunk in the park.

Ok--So a kid on a power trip doesn't want to have sex with Sophia and just makes her do stupid things. I imagine the boarding school would hinder any Dylan/Ellie development in the story but doesn't seem to be the case. Somehow in a few training sessions Dylan can kick ass... it took me a little longer than a few days to become proficient in hand-to-hand combat.

See what I mean why this story arch is flawed?

It's hard to have a compelling blackmail route. In any type of game. I haven't seen a realistic one. Most of the ones in porn movies are also unrealistic. You have to have some sort of suspension of disbelief to make it work. With that in mind, I would say that Aiden's path is on the better side of blackmail stuff.
It is clear that his end game is fucking Sofia, maybe even sharing her with his gang, like he did with Jennifer and Andre. But jumping straight to that kind of request would easily be denied. This is why I find the Bennet route the weakest. His blackmail is so thin, there's no way Sofia would fuck him.
Coming back to Aiden's route. Even his 4th tasks would have been refused by Sofia if it was his first request. And things are escalating. This would be similar in mentality with the sunken cost fallacy. The more you invest in something, the less you are likely to give it up. What you invest can be anything, time, money, whatever, the psychology behind it is the same.
I mean if she had the options, fuck Aiden or send Dylan to school, she would definitely not have chosen the first one. But dress sexier doesn't sound like that much. And the "cost" of keeping Dylan safe is increasing bit by bit. That's why he keeps giving her his tasks as late as possible. First part of the task, second part. To be just one more small step to complete it. The more she invests in this route, to keep Dylan safe, the harder it is to say no to the next small step.
Now I don't know if L&P thought of all that when he implemented it into the game, it is also kind of unrealistic for a kid like Aiden to be able to think of this strategy on his own and on the fly. But if you can get over that part, I think his path is not so crazy compared to the most of other ones (like Ellie, Dylan, Sam, teaching sex ed to the kids..., Bennet).

What do you think?

 

[dkatryl]

Ah yes, Aiden, and his 'powerful uncle' that was, what was it again? A lawyer, iirc?

Oh shit, let's turn a blind eye to the petty criminal in class, because just like no one else knows how to fight, apparently no one else knows another lawyer.

Silly porn logic, as always, but the uncle part in particular sounded like the big bad a child would come up with.

 

[TheMainEvent]

For those playing who have the save where Dylan says he is going to test his mother at the next given opportunity, is there a different outcome when it comes to the boys in the night club who approach Sophia in front of Dylan?

 

[botc76]

A couple of hours... for testing code properly... LMAO... only someone who has never programmed anything would say this. It is not only HIM testing, but I would imagine he may have testers doing it. It's what I would want to be certain things I never thought of is caught.

But if you don't like it... don't pay him. Make your own visual novel and see just how much work it is. Your attitudes may change at that point.

This is Ren'Py we are talking about. If you are so great at programming, you would know that it isn't the same checking a tiny Ren'py update compared to an actual game with actual gameplay
Ren'py is after all (among other things) famous for people without ANY programming experience being able to simply start to create a visual novel.
Yes, AWAM is a complicated VN, for the many routes that need to be factored in, but the dev keeps it completely manageable by the tiny incremental updates. He basically adds one or two scenes on a specific route per update, that doesn't take so long to check.

And please don't trot out that stupid, inane line of "make your own game, instead of complaining," it just makes everything seem so ridiculous whenever people bring that up.
You don't need to make your own thing, to criticize a thing, by that logic no one could criticize anything he hasn't done before, it's moronic, it's like the absolute straw man argumentation, since there is literally NO connection to the matter at hand, it's just a stupid standard defence whenever criticism comes up that a person doesn't like.
I don't have a problem with the dev, I don't pay him and there are many other games to play, so I just wait until I get content in my route, even though it takes eons, but there are totally valid criticisms for the way he works and the amount of work he does in such a lengthy amount of time, so just grow up, please. You can like something and still accept that there is a problem with it.

 

[Ranxerox]

For those playing who have the save where Dylan says he is going to test his mother at the next given opportunity, is there a different outcome when it comes to the boys in the night club who approach Sophia in front of Dylan? View attachment 2886326

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[PedroDeLara]

This V0.190 update has broken expectations for a large part and perhaps the developer knows this. The game takes almost 6 years and has a lot of history, I still followed the last two updates and I'm part of those who don't have a bag, I'm looking for other games. Excellent image and character quality, story progress very slow due to the update interval. I believe he has a lot more ready and is in reserve, droplet strategy and reaping the maximum fruit, in this niche the guy doesn't care about reputation, even the worse, the better.
Steam has become just a fetish for yet another platform to raise money, a herd effect from these developers. They are also amateurs considering that when launching a game they can openly ask X number of investors not to abandon the project, they are doing media and passing saucers as a beggar, shame.
I put my opinion and visit here to have fun with the despair of digital addicts, be careful you need treatment, this kills.

 

[botc76]

I agree, I don't think JOHN is anything like AWAM, the main problem being is that Jessica isn't a mother, the only thing they have in common is that they are both female protagonist, that isn't to say that JOHN isn't a good game as well.

I'd say there is a lot more to it. Both games are basically about a woman going from a pure one-romantic-partner life-style to a more liberal sexual behaviour, both offer corruption(in the sense of unwilling through blackmail and similar means or chosen by the MC), sexual liberation (swinging, sex with more than one partner, orgies), pure lesbian etc.. routes. Both offer a wide array of possible partners, both have very high standards in regard to the visuals, both have a very complicated set-up where lots of choices need to be considered, to determine how a specific day in the game plays out.
And in the negative, both also have rather small updates, with a long-development time in between.

 

[DarthSpitz717]

It's hard to have a compelling blackmail route. In any type of game. I haven't seen a realistic one. Most of the ones in porn movies are also unrealistic. You have to have some sort of suspension of disbelief to make it work. With that in mind, I would say that Aiden's path is on the better side of blackmail stuff.
It is clear that his end game is fucking Sofia, maybe even sharing her with his gang, like he did with Jennifer and Andre. But jumping straight to that kind of request would easily be denied. This is why I find the Bennet route the weakest. His blackmail is so thin, there's no way Sofia would fuck him.
Coming back to Aiden's route. Even his 4th tasks would have been refused by Sofia if it was his first request. And things are escalating. This would be similar in mentality with the sunken cost fallacy. The more you invest in something, the less you are likely to give it up. What you invest can be anything, time, money, whatever, the psychology behind it is the same.
I mean if she had the options, fuck Aiden or send Dylan to school, she would definitely not have chosen the first one. But dress sexier doesn't sound like that much. And the "cost" of keeping Dylan safe is increasing bit by bit. That's why he keeps giving her his tasks as late as possible. First part of the task, second part. To be just one more small step to complete it. The more she invests in this route, to keep Dylan safe, the harder it is to say no to the next small step.
Now I don't know if L&P thought of all that when he implemented it into the game, it is also kind of unrealistic for a kid like Aiden to be able to think of this strategy on his own and on the fly. But if you can get over that part, I think his path is not so crazy compared to the most of other ones (like Ellie, Dylan, Sam, teaching sex ed to the kids..., Bennet).

What do you think?

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It's hard to have a compelling blackmail route. In any type of game. I haven't seen a realistic one. Most of the ones in porn movies are also unrealistic. You have to have some sort of suspension of disbelief to make it work. With that in mind, I would say that Aiden's path is on the better side of blackmail stuff.
It is clear that his end game is fucking Sofia, maybe even sharing her with his gang, like he did with Jennifer and Andre. But jumping straight to that kind of request would easily be denied. True...can't argue that. Sophia would turn him down. However, this is Sophia. Her character wasn't as well developed in the beginning. Had she been more interested in getting attention, liking the praise of others, and generally more interested in sex, like looking at other men and finding them attractive but not willing to act on the attraction to build up her character profile it would be easier for half the things she finds herself in. Sophia to be able to cross that line with Dylan, he is going to have to see him more of a male then her son. The attention she gets from the other "boys," like Sam is plausible by itself.

With Aiden, it would be a slow burn, like with everything else in the story. Sophia would have to be built up to eventually give herself to Aiden. But the tasks she has to do isn't going to work.

This is why I find the Bennet route the weakest. His blackmail is so thin, there's no way Sofia would fuck him.
Agreed with Bennet, though he does have his use. Dylann could see Bennet hitting on his mother and flip a Cheeto and curb stomp him. Win more points with Sophia, see Dylann more a man than her son, and give us the players a nice scene.

Coming back to Aiden's route. Even his 4th tasks would have been refused by Sofia if it was his first request. And things are escalating. This would be similar in mentality with the sunken cost fallacy. The more you invest in something, the less you are likely to give it up. What you invest can be anything, time, money, whatever, the psychology behind it is the same.
I mean if she had the options, fuck Aiden or send Dylan to school, she would definitely not have chosen the first one. But dress sexier doesn't sound like that much. And the "cost" of keeping Dylan safe is increasing bit by bit. That's why he keeps giving her his tasks as late as possible. First part of the task, second part. To be just one more small step to complete it. The more she invests in this route, to keep Dylan safe, the harder it is to say no to the next small step.
Now I don't know if L&P thought of all that when he implemented it into the game, it is also kind of unrealistic for a kid like Aiden to be able to think of this strategy on his own and on the fly. But if you can get over that part, I think his path is not so crazy compared to the most of other ones (like Ellie, Dylan, Sam, teaching sex ed to the kids..., Bennet). Actually at that age I was a clever kid. Aiden is the leader of a gang. So he has to have a higher IQ to manipulate his underlings. But the tasks themselves are rather unsatisfying. A huge win for Aiden would be to have slow but building corruption of Sophia. Sociopaths though lacking moral control over themselves usually have an inner sense of to manipulate others. From the lesser tasks, it would easily appear the affect they are having on Sophia and exploit it more and more. All the while Sophia would slowly become more and more turned on.

The way Sam, or Dylann are likely going to get Sophia is when they dominate her in a way that turns her on. Dominate is a bit too strong a word, but more like take charge.

What do you think?

 

[Ranxerox]

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It's hard to have a compelling blackmail route. In any type of game. I haven't seen a realistic one. Most of the ones in porn movies are also unrealistic. You have to have some sort of suspension of disbelief to make it work. With that in mind, I would say that Aiden's path is on the better side of blackmail stuff.
It is clear that his end game is fucking Sofia, maybe even sharing her with his gang, like he did with Jennifer and Andre. But jumping straight to that kind of request would easily be denied. True...can't argue that. Sophia would turn him down. However, this is Sophia. Her character wasn't as well developed in the beginning. Had she been more interested in getting attention, liking the praise of others, and generally more interested in sex, like looking at other men and finding them attractive but not willing to act on the attraction to build up her character profile it would be easier for half the things she finds herself in. Sophia to be able to cross that line with Dylan, he is going to have to see him more of a male then her son. The attention she gets from the other "boys," like Sam is plausible by itself.

With Aiden, it would be a slow burn, like with everything else in the story. Sophia would have to be built up to eventually give herself to Aiden. But the tasks she has to do isn't going to work.

This is why I find the Bennet route the weakest. His blackmail is so thin, there's no way Sofia would fuck him.
Agreed with Bennet, though he does have his use. Dylann could see Bennet hitting on his mother and flip a Cheeto and curb stomp him. Win more points with Sophia, see Dylann more a man than her son, and give us the players a nice scene.

Coming back to Aiden's route. Even his 4th tasks would have been refused by Sofia if it was his first request. And things are escalating. This would be similar in mentality with the sunken cost fallacy. The more you invest in something, the less you are likely to give it up. What you invest can be anything, time, money, whatever, the psychology behind it is the same.
I mean if she had the options, fuck Aiden or send Dylan to school, she would definitely not have chosen the first one. But dress sexier doesn't sound like that much. And the "cost" of keeping Dylan safe is increasing bit by bit. That's why he keeps giving her his tasks as late as possible. First part of the task, second part. To be just one more small step to complete it. The more she invests in this route, to keep Dylan safe, the harder it is to say no to the next small step.
Now I don't know if L&P thought of all that when he implemented it into the game, it is also kind of unrealistic for a kid like Aiden to be able to think of this strategy on his own and on the fly. But if you can get over that part, I think his path is not so crazy compared to the most of other ones (like Ellie, Dylan, Sam, teaching sex ed to the kids..., Bennet). Actually at that age I was a clever kid. Aiden is the leader of a gang. So he has to have a higher IQ to manipulate his underlings. But the tasks themselves are rather unsatisfying. A huge win for Aiden would be to have slow but building corruption of Sophia. Sociopaths though lacking moral control over themselves usually have an inner sense of to manipulate others. From the lesser tasks, it would easily appear the affect they are having on Sophia and exploit it more and more. All the while Sophia would slowly become more and more turned on.

The way Sam, or Dylann are likely going to get Sophia is when they dominate her in a way that turns her on. Dominate is a bit too strong a word, but more like take charge.

What do you think?

Why don't you use the "Quote/Multi-quote"..?
It kinda gets confusing trying to read your posts..

 

[botc76]

L&P is getting old and old, and lose his creativity/productivity!!!

Honestly. I am not trying or willing to defend the guy, but I believe it would be easy to lose your drive and creativity after so many years working on a project, with this snail pace and with a very vocal group of people constantly complaining (not without reason, mind you, I am not talking about whether the complaints are valid or not, some are, some aren't, this is just about how it would influence someone).
I mean, they had to have realized by now that no matter what, this will still take several years to complete, and sure the money is nice, but in a way that just makes it harder to get the creativity rolling, because why should you, if more than 2,5k people pay you each month, no matter how long the updates take and how small they are. Basically, the only motivation has to come from themselves, their will to create something, their will to treat their supporters fairly etc..

 

[Kradich]

The "heart" button in the top right corner.

WOW! Thanks... I see it now. Somehow it was completely invisible to my eyes before I saw this. Thank you very much!

 

[naughtynafz]

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A Wife and Mother - Combined Edition v0.190

This is a crunched version of A Wife and Mother version 0.190, which includes the complete Part 1. That means you can play the game from the beginning or just import your old save files without any issue. If you don't like the crunched low quality images, you can just put and replace the HQ images from original.

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Combined Edition - v0.190 Uploaded

What's New:

• Updated the Game to v0.190
• Added a New Fan Story "Dysfunctional Family" by Kthulu_SFM