VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[ihl86]

The poll was for popularity, not popularity with specific people or specific fetishes.

AWAM Has changed and L&P has made Dylan a more central character.

If you send Dylan to boarding school, then - given what you just said - Dylan effectively goes away.

You can use 5-10 renders to show him at home or having a meal on a weekend and then he is gone for another week.

Does the poll say that is what everyone wants? No

We have the side stories of Ellie with Logan - so those are okay?

Given what you said above, you are singling out Dylan and cutting major content from his story even though the poll shows that cumulatively he is the most popular character in the poll.

It's easy for us to rewrite AWAM as Each of us wants to see it - our own unique vision - but that will never happen with L&P.

As I said in the post you quoted:

I understand the frustration with the slow development but cutting content is very often a recommendation of those who don't care about that content and those who do can just deal with it...

Cheers!

We don't have an entire update where we see Ellie fuck Logan or something. That was a good example for my point. We see a few renders with Ellie and Logan alone. That relationship is just driving other events in the game. Like Sofia with Logan or Dylan with Ellie.
And I was singling Dylan out because he is the only one that gets to be a second MC. This isn't Milfy City where we play the horny son seducing everything in sight. And while Dylan is a very popular character, I think he is so in relationship with Sofia. People want to see Dylan/Sofia events and maybe Dylan/Ellie events. This can easily be seen, again, from the voting. All of the other Dylan love interests have kind of been voted out. That is not only my unique vision but apparently that of L&Ps patrons as well.

I would not want any content that involves Sofia to be cut out. No matter how much I would not be interested in seeing it, as I would not want to take the pleasure of that content for fans of it. However, there are so many incest games out there where the MC is the wimpy kid (Dylan under so many shapes and sizes) that for people that just want to see that kind of content have a huge amount of possibilities. Since the main attraction of this game is Sofia, why would people playing this game want that Dylan only content that much? I can see only two reasons they identify themselves with Dylan or they have a crush on Dylan and so they want to see him bag everything in sight.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I agree with you on almost every point!
Except for the story with Emma. Seeing Emma being aggressively seduced and then fucked by Sophia while Dylan was playing on the computer upstairs in his room had a certain appeal to me. And this although I play the Dylan route and don't particularly like his cuck route.
But I'm in a magnanimous mood and forgoing the Emma route so that other players who don't have as wide a portfolio of interests can have some of the game in the future.

That Emma starts on the lesbian route also should be considered. There's little point in the initial Emma events developing a relationship with Sophia if you're going to then lump her with Dylan.

Most of the people I've spoken to ship Emma with Sophia, not Dylan.

I'd love to see Emma using the tutoring sessions with Dylan to get closer to Sophia, her first real lesbian crush.

Picture PD 20 with an Emma tutoring visit...

Once she gives some homework to Dylan, she says she is going to go sunbathe for an hour then she'll return to review his work with him.

Sunbathing becomes putting tanning oil on Sophia and culminates with Sophia's orgasm from getting fingerbanged by Emma while gagged with Emma's panties...

I recognize that we are unlikely to get that scene now, but perhaps one of the other creators can tackle it in the fan art thread!

Tempting. Might take a while, but I'll see what I can come up with.

The poll was for popularity, not popularity with specific people or specific fetishes.

AWAM Has changed and L&P has made Dylan a more central character.

If you send Dylan to boarding school, then - given what you just said - Dylan effectively goes away.

You can use 5-10 renders to show him at home or having a meal on a weekend and then he is gone for another week.

Does the poll say that is what everyone wants? No

We have the side stories of Ellie with Logan - so those are okay?

Given what you said above, you are singling out Dylan and cutting major content from his story even though the poll shows that cumulatively he is the most popular character in the poll.

It's easy for us to rewrite AWAM as Each of us wants to see it - our own unique vision - but that will never happen with L&P.

As I said in the post you quoted:

I understand the frustration with the slow development but cutting content is very often a recommendation of those who don't care about that content and those who do can just deal with it...

Cheers!

Singling out Dylan is easy because he's currently the only one with branches in his route. Branches that are mutually exclusive to his main storyline.

On PD16 when the Ellie route starts branching, then we might be able to start singling her out for scenes that could be cut. Which of the three will be her main storyline though remains to be seen.

 

[Bibifoc]

I honestly don't understand why L&P made Dylan put his boxers back in the tub; all the subsequent scenes could still take place with Dylan without his boxer shorts, on the contrary, Sophia's thoughts could be more amplified by the sensation of his cock on her skin.

And you want me to rip off his boxers?

I understand and there were probably possibilities to do so but putting his boxers back also fits the scene in order to reassure her and continue. And his cock still caresses her skin in the end. Feels ok to me.

 

[tofhdns]

The poll was for popularity, not popularity with specific people or specific fetishes.

AWAM Has changed and L&P has made Dylan a more central character.

If you send Dylan to boarding school, then - given what you just said - Dylan effectively goes away.

You can use 5-10 renders to show him at home or having a meal on a weekend and then he is gone for another week.

Does the poll say that is what everyone wants? No

We have the side stories of Ellie with Logan - so those are okay?

Given what you said above, you are singling out Dylan and cutting major content from his story even though the poll shows that cumulatively he is the most popular character in the poll.

It's easy for us to rewrite AWAM as Each of us wants to see it - our own unique vision - but that will never happen with L&P.

As I said in the post you quoted:

I understand the frustration with the slow development but cutting content is very often a recommendation of those who don't care about that content and those who do can just deal with it...

Cheers!

It seems that the interpretation of the voting results is different.

Dylan is a popular character for them, which is why there are two routes.

Except for Sophia, Dylan is the only character with two routes so far.

Moreover, Dylan will be the main character in the next update.
Even also now, Dylan is actually the main character, but anyway.

Also, despite this, Dylan will not disappear and will return home on the weekends to hold events.

This is a benefit that other characters do not enjoy.

Most of the characters are really gone.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I'd love to see Emma using the tutoring sessions with Dylan to get closer to Sophia, her first real lesbian crush.

Picture PD 20 with an Emma tutoring visit...

Once she gives some homework to Dylan, she says she is going to go sunbathe for an hour then she'll return to review his work with him.

Sunbathing becomes putting tanning oil on Sophia and culminates with Sophia's orgasm from getting fingerbanged by Emma while gagged with Emma's panties...

I recognize that we are unlikely to get that scene now, but perhaps one of the other creators can tackle it in the fan art thread!

There's a number of other options, too - including walking in on them, perhaps even staying - for educational purposes, of course; spying and getting caught by Ellie, who can also join her and lead to more fun between them.
Sky (and author's IQ) is the limit...

 

[Paco Loco]

I played the 'chad' Dylan route and the 'cuck' Dylan route on .190 version and I did not saw any significant differences between the two routes, even them being supposedly slightly different. If someone of you did the same, do you noticed some different dialogues or else?

 

[DIRTY FILTHY Animal]

This vote is determined by the higher tiers of the Patron.

And they are the ones who deleted Emma's event and Dylan's 'twist'.

And not having information about Bennett is not my choice, it is the developer's choice.

Their votes actually influence the game.

So you should pay attention to the voting results.
Whether you agree or not.

I am also not 100% satisfied with this vote result, but I care about this vote result regardless of my feelings.
I have already given you the reason.

Cheers!

Did his higher tier patrons vote for Dylan to have a cuck route too? Seems strange if he’s there fave character why they would want to see him cucked.
I want to see Sophia Cuck Liam, cause in my game she gives him no pussy

 

[BlackKobolt]

v0.190 for Mac ?

 

[Whitekink]

This vote is determined by the higher tiers of the Patron.

The vote was open to all Patrons, not just the higher tiers.

 

[hzjujk]

That Emma starts on the lesbian route also should be considered. There's little point in the initial Emma events developing a relationship with Sophia if you're going to then lump her with Dylan.

Most of the people I've spoken to ship Emma with Sophia, not Dylan.

Tempting. Might take a while, but I'll see what I can come up with.

Singling out Dylan is easy because he's currently the only one with branches in his route. Branches that are mutually exclusive to his main storyline.

On PD16 when the Ellie route starts branching, then we might be able to start singling her out for scenes that could be cut. Which of the three will be her main storyline though remains to be seen.

Please read my post again. I didn't write anything about a romantic relationship Sophia/Emma. But by the huntress Sophia, who takes what she wants. It is clear to me that the idea that a "man" is somehow involved in this constellation is repulsive for you.

 

[tofhdns]

Did his higher tier patrons vote for Dylan to have a cuck route too? Seems strange if he’s there fave character why they would want to see him cucked.
I want to see Sophia Cuck Liam, cause in my game she gives him no pussy

Did I write that people voted for the cuck route?

I don't know what you're talking about

 

[tofhdns]

The vote was open to all Patrons, not just the higher tiers.

Whitekink says that the vote is open to all Patrons.

PaxHadrian17, You may need to pay more attention to voting.

 

[VBoat]

I'm looking forward to the postman route

 

[Alley_Cat]

Please read my post again. I didn't write anything about a romantic relationship Sophia/Emma. But by the huntress Sophia, who takes what she wants. It is clear to me that the idea that a "man" is somehow involved in this constellation is repulsive for you.

My issue isn't so much that I don't like the male characters, more that the implementation of Emma's content is so haphazard. If you take out the lesbian scenes with Emma, and just have Sophia setting Emma up with Dylan, that would have been fine too. Like how you don't get many lesbian points (most are in her initial meeting) by playing the Alyssa path.

Similar is my issue with Morello's content. I really don't see the point in him as a character. If you really have an issue with Aiden, it's rather simple to choose not to play it. But then I see Aiden's tasks as an integral part of corrupting Sophia enough to eventually fuck Dylan.

 

[alex_47]

Dylan/Ellie/Christine(Evening alternative 2) is a waste of time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hzjujk]

My issue isn't so much that I don't like the male characters, more that the implementation of Emma's content is so haphazard. If you take out the lesbian scenes with Emma, and just have Sophia setting Emma up with Dylan, that would have been fine too. Like how you don't get many lesbian points (most are in her initial meeting) by playing the Alyssa path.
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Ok, I understand.

...
Similar is my issue with Morello's content. I really don't see the point in him as a character. If you really have an issue with Aiden, it's rather simple to choose not to play it. But then I see Aiden's tasks as an integral part of corrupting Sophia enough to eventually fuck Dylan.

I can understand that too, but that's the way it is.

 

[bellpepper69]

Give me 3 reasons:
- Why should I stop supporting L&P?
- Why should I start supporting other devs?
- Which ones should I support?

I'll give you one reason. The model of paid monthly subscriptions for access to a game, by its nature, incentivises a developer to take all the time they want in releasing updates and ultimately completing their game. The longer it takes them, the more money they make. Simple. Unless a developer has the personal integrity to ignore this incentive in favor of delivering their product in a timely manner and respecting their patron's wallets, this model will always fail and always lead to slow release. Clearly, this developer does not have personal integrity and instead prefers to run the clock out and then release half-scene updates. And so my suggestion is to stop supporting them until they learn to respect your money. Either that, or the entire model needs to be change to a format that rewards quick release rather than the opposite.

 

[supermannnnn]

Can i ask how frequently this game is updated?

 

[WildBillKatt]

Can i ask how frequently this game is updated?

Around 3 times per year.

 

[Edger Sr.]

One of the most powerful sentence ever said in this game.

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