VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[rAmSiMaL]

In the past I’ve seen some (very few) harsh comments not only cursing (for the obvious reason…) but also wishing the game to stop, someone else to take it over etc…

IMHO LP made a huge mistake to build up high expectations for many opposing groups way beyond his capacity to deliver:
- Heterosexual: they want to see Sophia getting fucked in every possible position (not happening)
- Lesbian: they want to see Sophia in some serious action with other women (just started with Ellie but using a shitty version of Sophia). Here are a lot of different groups (Ellie, Patricia, Nathalie, Julie, Alyssa, Vicky)
- Incest: they want Sophia to have sex with family members (not her husband) and that is not progressing properly (she jerked off Dylan but where is sex? Why hasn’t started the ranch event yet? etc., etc.)
- Fans of specific characters: many times here we have seen people complaining where is this character or that person etc. There are over 30 people that are waiting for their screen time (see the full list in the game)
- Fetishists: interracial, submissive, voyeurs, mature fetishists are waiting for a scene with the janitor, Aiden or Morello, the teacher with Dylan watching, old gents or the postman.
- MILF lovers: Sophia with Sam which is expected to have a proper scene close to the end of the game… Sexed teenage boys, or Amber with Dylan.

High expectations are creating frustration! His limited capacity is delaying the progress!

 

[exsomon]

trouble is story progression is too slow,
nobody expects an ordinary housewife to turn into a sexual predator overnight
21 in game days is not a long time for caugarisation but 7 years hinting, promising but not delivering is the problem

 

[ashitanojoe]

1. That's a matter of opinion.
2. That's because this game has been around nearly 8 years what do you expect?

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Think with common sense.

There is no reason to delete the link from f95zone.
This is their source of income.
(This is not their direct source of income, but by supporting the game they can generate additional income streams: advertising banners, sex chat, etc.)

If f95zone wanted to delete it, they would have deleted the game page, not the link.

The latest news was this.

The developer's top-tier sponsors were not receiving immediate updates despite paying, so they reported this to Patreon.

It's easy to guess that the sponsor would have wanted to receive the current version rather than the Dol version.

Therefore, when Patreon receives the report and starts investigating, they will find out that L&P used a trick, which is a violation of the terms.
(I'm sure they already know this, but when reports come in, they have to act.)

So, my guess is that L&P would have hastily requested F95zone to delete the link (before or during the investigation) and restored the link once the investigation was completed.
- By simply deleting the link, Patreon can deny that the two versions of the game are the same game (implicit agreement).
- Or, he may have done it directly using his secondary account for updates. (I don't know who owns the update account.)

So, I guess L&P asked f95zone to delete the link and then ask them to restore the link again.

If, as he said, many people requested Patreon to delete the link, and so Patreon directly requested F95zone to delete the link, the link "absolutely" cannot be restored.

If Patreon asked L&P to remove the link "for a while," this would be proof that they are turning a blind eye to the use of the trick. (They'll know that things can get pretty serious.)

The logical step when not receiving the update after subscribing is to contact the creator, rather than raising reporting them to Patreon. Why would anyone do that before contacting L&P? You would only resort to this if he failed to response in a timely manner.

Secondly I do not see what L&P gains from lying about F95 reports and by going through this tread and seeing some of the comments one could easily see how reporting by F95 users was plausible.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

Two actual truths that the people don't want to admit:

1. The erotic scenes in AWAM, even without sex, are hotter than 99% of the sex scenes in other games.
2. L&P already did more renders than the most of the games completed.

This actually true

 

[DylansMoM_001]

https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-201-lust-passion.5944/post-8120982

Brother why you think I'm asking?

 

[KINGSTAG123]

Two actual truths that the people don't want to admit:

1. The erotic scenes in AWAM, even without sex, are hotter than 99% of the sex scenes in other games.
2. L&P already did more renders than the most of the games completed.

100%,there is so much authenticity in this game

 

[Kirill86]

Can somebody remind me what "homework" Sophia gave to ava's boys cuz I'm too lazy to play it from the gallery is it masterbating ?

homework - they must masturbate. she also allowed her image to be used for masturbation

 

[tofhdns]

The logical step when not receiving the update after subscribing is to contact the creator, rather than raising reporting them to Patreon. Why would anyone do that before contacting L&P? You would only resort to this if he failed to response in a timely manner.

Secondly I do not see what L&P gains from lying about F95 reports and by going through this tread and seeing some of the comments one could easily see how reporting by F95 users was plausible.

First, this is speculation.
Second, this developer often lies, and it's no secret.
Third, because of this incident, everyone learned what this developer's weaknesses were. (He has plenty of reasons to hide it.)

from a different perspective

1. There is no benefit for users of this forum due to the links being removed from f95zone.
2. There is no benefit to f95zone from removing the link “for a while.”
3. Conversely, it is easier for f95zone to black out some of the users who requested it or simply ignore their opinions, rather than deleting the link and damaging the game developer.

I repeat

If Patreon contacted f95zone directly and requested that the link be removed, the link would "never" be restored.
This serves as evidence that Patreon is aware of the developer's tricks or condones their use.
- You need to know how big of a risk this is on Patreon's part.

And if the seller does not respond immediately, the consumer reports it to the platform. (Have you never used the platform?)
- The story has been told that the top tier sponsor wanted immediate provision.

(Of course, all of this is speculation. But in my real world this is more normal.)

 

[tofhdns]

Add to

If you're curious, gather 100 or 10 people on this forum and ask f95zone to remove the link and see how they react.



I repeat

The statement “I paid but didn’t receive the product” has tremendous power.

If you're curious, try it yourself.

 

[DylansMoM_001]

100%,there is so much authenticity in this game

You've seen the light

 

[MENGYANLCM]

Use this to be able to load your modified save. But if you plan to use a save editor, I think these things are not safe.

Thank you for your reply, but after downloading this file, I don't know which folder to store it in or how to use it. How should I use it?

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Add to

If you're curious, gather 100 or 10 people on this forum and ask f95zone to remove the link and see how they react.



I repeat

The statement “I paid but didn’t receive the product” has tremendous power.

If you're curious, try it yourself.

I am not questioning that, but still the normal and most logical thing to do is to contact L&P first before escalating to Patreon.
What more Patreon would 1st check if you did contact the creator when responding to a ticket.

 

[tofhdns]

I am not questioning that, but still the normal and most logical thing to do is to contact L&P first before escalating to Patreon.
What more Patreon would 1st check if you did contact the creator when responding to a ticket.

I don't think you said this expecting an answer from me.

 

[hzjujk]

I am not questioning that, but still the normal and most logical thing to do is to contact L&P first before escalating to Patreon.
What more Patreon would 1st check if you did contact the creator when responding to a ticket.

Now I have to ask - does Patreon, as the provider of the developers and sales platform, really commit itself to intervening for the rights of the supporters in the event of possible fraud - for example, if the developer does not deliver?
I mean, Patreon would then have to intervene even if a project - for example, the development of new hardware - fails. Patreon would then have to check each time what the reasons are for abandoning the project and then react accordingly with financial requirements for the developer or the development team.
This is a legal effort and a minefield to protect the supporters, which would not be worthwhile with the many (small) projects.
That's why I can't imagine that the complaint of one or several high-ranking supporters that they had not received an update really led to the developer being investigated and, above all, to his website being temporarily blocked.

 

[OgnjenaRavenWolf]

Now I have to ask - does Patreon, as the provider of the developers and sales platform, really commit itself to intervening for the rights of the supporters in the event of possible fraud - for example, if the developer does not deliver?
I mean, Patreon would then have to intervene even if a project - for example, the development of new hardware - fails. Patreon would then have to check each time what the reasons are for abandoning the project and then react accordingly with financial requirements for the developer or the development team.
This is a legal effort and a minefield to protect the supporters, which would not be worthwhile with the many (small) projects.
That's why I can't imagine that the complaint of one or several high-ranking supporters that they had not received an update really led to the developer being investigated and, above all, to his website being temporarily blocked.

Good luck with that. He aint delivering shit last 7 years.

Most of us SMART PPL, we know he is like AORRTA the milker who lied fans and patreons 8 years - while he had multiple games started from several burners and Patreon accounts till 1 of my friend found his IP and literally saw that multiple accounts and so called DEVELOPERS are actually his accounts.

Lust & Passion is no different. Possible have 3 more games on this site at least (u can literally see the design and style and long ass reading titles in some of the games out there - it is his style and the way he works)

AoRRta was known for highest graphical skills possible best 3D and DAZ models. So he have started 2 more games 4 years ago (now abandoned and disappeared) till some of us got suspicious that its actually his work due to style, writing and milking plus excuses. Most of devs here milks multiple games only from different accounts. U need less than a month for 1 regular update but they prolong it to 3 or 5 months, so they can work on multiple - other projects they have been started.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Good luck with that. He aint delivering shit last 7 years.

Most of us SMART PPL, we know he is like AORRTA the milker who lied fans and patreons 8 years - while he had multiple games started from several burners and Patreon accounts till 1 of my friend found his IP and literally saw that multiple accounts and so called DEVELOPERS are actually his accounts.

Lust & Passion is no different. Possible have 3 more games on this site at least (u can literally see the design and style and long ass reading titles in some of the games out there - it is his style and the way he works)

AoRRta was known for highest graphical skills possible best 3D and DAZ models. So he have started 2 more games 4 years ago (now abandoned and disappeared) till some of us got suspicious that its actually his work due to style, writing and milking plus excuses. Most of devs here milks multiple games only from different accounts. U need less than a month for 1 regular update but they prolong it to 3 or 5 months, so they can work on multiple - other projects they have been started.

What games specifically do you think are also made by L&P?

 

[Bibifoc]

Thank you for your reply, but after downloading this file, I don't know which folder to store it in or how to use it. How should I use it?

Just put it in your AWAM2/game folder. It will automatically activate when you'll laucnh the game.

 

[Candy Suxx]

 

[RG80100]

girl on girl is boring

your post is boring