VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [v0.220] [Lust & Passion]

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Your graph shows consistently lower lows and lower highs..
And I think it would look a lot more informative if you used monthly output total as the scale

That is mostly because part 1 average was way higher than part 2. This is where the real drop is.

Edit:
Just to be 100% clear - There is a small decline, yes but nothing near what the cry here is all about.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Goddamn you're dense. I've addressed every single one of your silly points, but you just decided to ignore all that's proving you wrong again and again. What's more hilarious is that you repeat what I'm accusing you of. Like a little sock puppet. lol


Apart from the fact that you just confirm Talcum's evidence of the constant downward trend, your edited version is quite frankly...dumb. lol

Math is hard. I get it. Go away now.

 

[hzjujk]

Goddamn you're dense. I've addressed every single one of your silly points, but you just decided to ignore all that's proving you wrong again and again. What's more hilarious is that you repeat what I'm accusing you of. Like a little sock puppet. lol


Apart from the fact that you just confirm Talcum's evidence of the constant downward trend, your edited version is quite frankly...dumb. lol

You're probably doing what tofhdns does now - ending every post in this discussion with an insult.

 

[Notretsam]

I've rarely seen anyone actually look at a downward trend line and say, "It's still consistent" or "It's stable."

If the 7-year trend line is falling, it is a danger signal that you should throw everything and get out. (in certain fields)

exactly, a downward trend will always bottom out and whatever goes bust.

AWAM is certainly going downhill, the story is going off the rails and you can see in this thread examples of people losing patience, myself included. I'm trying to hang in there as I'm still somewhat curious about AWAM but I'm also close to being done with it.

 

[palmtrees89]

You're probably doing what tofhdns does now - ending every post in this discussion with an insult.

I'm calling his graph dumb. Might wanna read up on some of the guys nonsense. You'll find the exact same thing. Stop being so soft.

 

[palmtrees89]

Math is hard. I get it. Go away now.

Apparently so seeing how you're having massive trouble with it.

 

[hzjujk]

I'm calling his graph dumb. Might wanna read up on some of the guys nonsense. You'll find the exact same thing. Stop being so soft.

I - cry. No!

 

[palmtrees89]

I - cry. No!

Guess you gotta endure it then. This whole discussion is pointless, as I've said before we'll never come to an understanding here... Well except he admitted that there is a downward trend. He just doesn't see the bigger picture or something. And he has this talent to dunk on himself...kinda like nexer.

 

[Miss Kobayashi's]

to be honest, I can't imagine what kind of update teasing and all that stuff is again, or what is new and normal content

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[tofhdns]

That is mostly because part 1 average was way higher than part 2. This is where the real drop is.

Edit:
Just to be 100% clear - There is a small decline, yes but nothing near what the cry here is all about.

"There is a small decline"

This person clearly knows nothing.

It dropped from 7 to 3, so the average became 5... But this person says "There is a small decline".

 

[tofhdns]

You're probably doing what tofhdns does now - ending every post in this discussion with an insult.

This was your method until a while ago, and I've only recently realized that it's more effective.

On the other hand, you have only recently realized that this is not the right way.

 

[Batmandick1437]

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DeShawn is fascinated by Sophia's curves.

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Really needs to get to old design back

L&P still failing to open Sophia eyes wide

 

[hzjujk]

This was your method until a while ago, and I've only recently realized that it's more effective.

On the other hand, you have only recently realized that this is not the right way.

I don't insult, I mock or try to be sarcastic.
Of course I can just write - "Man, you're so stupid, even pigs would bite you off!". But I think that's inappropriate in a discussion and is humiliating/hurtful.
That's why I always try to react with (sometimes sharp) humor to hold a mirror up to the person I'm arguing with. I admit that sometimes I'm good at it, sometimes bad, and sometimes I go too far.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

I'm calling his graph dumb. Might wanna read up on some of the guys nonsense. You'll find the exact same thing. Stop being so soft.

LOL. The graph is not dumb. You simply don't understand what it shows.


Edit:
Here it is divided into part 1 and 2.
One can clearly see the average renders/day drop I mentioned earlier.

 

[palmtrees89]

LOL. The graph is not dumb. You simply don't understand what it shows.

Oh I do. You've finally come to the realization that there is a constant decline. That's something atleast, even tho you wanna call it fairly consistent.

Here, just so you don't forget;
2018: 2685 renders
2019: 2480 renders
2020: 2328 renders
2021: 1872 renders
2022: 1646 renders
2023: 1123 renders
And now remember what you said about your little portraits, and think about what that could possibly mean.

I've done my work here. Case closed. Or as you put it; "Go away now."

Who am I kidding... you won't.

 

[hzjujk]

LOL. The graph is not dumb. You simply don't understand what it shows.


Edit:
Here it is divided into part 1 and 2.
One can clearly see the average renders/day drop I mentioned earlier.

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Now that was a move that made me smile a little.

 

[OZtheW1ZARD]

Oh I do. You've finally come to the realization that there is a constant decline. That's something atleast, even tho you wanna call it fairly consistent.

Here, just so you don't forget;
2018: 2685 renders
2019: 2480 renders
2020: 2328 renders
2021: 1872 renders
2022: 1646 renders
2023: 1123 renders
And now remember what you said about your little portraits, and think about what that could possibly mean.

I've done my work here. Case closed. Or as you put it; "Go away now."

Who am I kidding... you won't.

I know you keep thinking you have a gatcha but you really don't.


2018 - 2020 - Part 1, renders around 2500ish +/- 100,

2021 - 2024 - Part 2, renders around 1700 +/- 100

Have I not said render quantity dropped with part 2?

Disclaimer: 2023 seems to be outlier and overall drop in quantity (no idea why. it could be rework or L&P simply spent less time working on the game). That being said pace in 2024 appears to be picking up again. Will have to wait till the year is over to draw any conclusions.

Now that was a move that made me smile a little.

Not really a move, but appreciate the sentiment haha This is average when split into separate part 1 and 2. I don't know who produced the original chart, but you cant just cheery pick the low values and ignore the highs (doted line).

 

[palmtrees89]

I know you keep thinking you have a gatcha but you really don't.


2018 - 2020 - Part 1, renders around 2500ish +/- 100,

2021 - 2024 - Part 2, renders around 1700 +/- 100

Have I not said render quantity dropped with part 2?

Disclaimer: 2023 seems to be outlier and overall drop in quantity (no idea why. it could be rework or L&P simply spent less time working on the game). That being said pace in 2024 appears to be picking up again. Will have to wait till the year is over to draw any conclusions.



Not really a move, but appreciate the sentiment haha This is average when split into separate part 1 and 2. I don't know who produced the original chart, but you cant just cheery pick the low values and ignore the highs (doted line).

Part 02 starts in 2022, hence why I kept telling you to look at renders from 2021. Same quality, more renders/year. The only difference in part 02 is the switch to 10% of a PD updates and animations which according to L&P do not affect anyhing.

Also, since you've made your own comparison with the portraits (think I mentioned that 5 times by now), things should stay consistent which clearly they don't as you can see by the yearly drop in overall renders.

On a different note: 2023 actually ended up being not so terrible if you consider the last update with ~760 renders (Sophia+Dylan part02) was released in January 7th, 2024...Guess you could add those renders to 2023 since almost all the devtime for that update took place in 2023. Now, since I ignore any overlap in the numbers provided, it makes 2023 look worse than it actually is.

 

[hzjujk]

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Not really a move, but appreciate the sentiment haha This is average when split into separate part 1 and 2. I don't know who produced the original chart, but you cant just cheery pick the low values and ignore the highs (doted line).

Some will say that the way the statistics are viewed is changed by a trick worthy of a politician.
Others will say that, yes, that is exactly how the data should be read. But there is a catch, in my opinion. This interpretation also assumes that there was a big jump in the quality of the images in the transition from part 1 to part 2. I don't see it that way.

 

[armion82]

Guys,just ignore him.
No sane person will say 50% less renders and 1/3 day,instead of 3-4 full days per year is a small decline.