crabboid

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This guy (dev) is not a genius, as you claim. It's just that unlike a lot of other developers who have given up on making their own games, this guy is working hard. Creating a game is a lot of work and many people like his work. People appreciate the quality of the drawing, the story. Some people criticize, but they don't leave this topic, which indicates that this guy (dev) is making some progress.
There’s more deepthroating in that post than there’s been in the game so far.

You want to look at someone who deserves praise? Eva Kiss with “Our Red String”. Good art, interesting characters, you play from the perspective of the guy and the girl, fairly regular releases, a level of choice that should make BioWare feel ashamed of themselves, sex everywhere, and all of it with a decent level of buildup without dipping into milking territory.
 
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sept0342

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Why are you being rude to me? What did I say against you? The worm of envy has completely destroyed your sense of basic tact and you are no longer able to communicate normally with those whose opinion you do not like. I'm not going to complain about your rudeness to the moderators, it always seemed to me that you were a normal artist and person, I hope you just delete this post.
Here you're not allowed to like the game, let alone the dev.
 

crabboid

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Sep 7, 2019
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Why are you being rude to me? What did I say against you? The worm of envy has completely destroyed your sense of basic tact and you are no longer able to communicate normally with those whose opinion you do not like. I'm not going to complain about your rudeness to the moderators, it always seemed to me that you were a normal artist and person, I hope you just delete this post.
I’m not really an artist though. I’m posted a few things that I’ve made, and that’s about it. I’ve toyed with the idea of doing something, but it never went beyond the “toying with the idea” level, because I’m not interested in that level of commitment. I’m not jealous of LP, they’ve clearly tapped into a market that works, an I tip my cap to them for that, and I obviously like AWAM on some level or I wouldn’t check in on this thread every few months. Plus, I just may have paid for and shared a few of the updates here when I didn’t have to (you’re welcome, by the way).

You’re perfectly welcome to sing LP’s praises from the mountaintops all the ding dong day long. HOWEVER, I am allowed to push back on that. That’s how putting your opinion out on a public forum works.

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I’m coming back and cutting out the last part of the post, because I’m not interested in this turning into a “thing”, and I will instead say the following:

I strongly disagree with you, and can and will continue to voice my opinion, but I apologize if my jab hurt your feelings, as it clearly did. I’ve got friends and brothers with whom I bust chops on that level all the time, and I forget that people have varying sensitivity levels.

There. Better?
 
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palmtrees89

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this guy is working hard.
There are positive things to say about this project no doubt. The most obvious being render quality.

But... Working hard? Really? Can we please stop ignoring how L&P's production rate for the past almost 8 years is going down every single year? Slower and slower...and slower. Less overall renders every year while on the other hand more experience and superior hardware. The complete polar opposites.

The "quality is going up" excuse isn't working since ~mid 2021. L&P's been pushing the limits of DAZ&Photoshop for almost 4 years now, and yet things are still getting slower. The story has become worse since part 02 started back in 2022 aswell, atleast in my opinion. That is not what I'd consider "working hard". Nobody would argue that there are ups and downs as with everything we do in life, but in this case it's ONLY down and NEVER up.

Yes, you could commend him for keeping at it for so long. He's not abandoned it which most games going for that long (there's hardly any) are, but why would he? I wouldn't abandon $15.000-$20.000 a month either. But you know what you can do? Push the limits in regards to how little can you do and still sustain that kind of income.

You are talking about a guy who has never followed up on ANY of his old Patreon goals, and now he's made a new one basically asking for $30.000 a month in order to hire a "helper". He could hire several AAA game designers for that kind of money. Actual professionals. A LEAD game designer working at Blizzard Entertainment makes roughly $10-$11k a month. Junior game designers with bachelor degree roughly $6-$7k a month. AWAM is a Patreon funded porn game. Let that sink in for a minute.

I barely participate in this thread anymore, but seeing this comment I just had to give my 50 cents. The hype is gone and I haven't played the game since the gym update last year. Cheers!
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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There are positive things to say about this project no doubt. The most obvious being render quality.

But... Working hard? Really? Can we please stop ignoring how L&P's production rate for the past almost 8 years is going down every single year? Slower and slower...and slower. Less overall renders every year while on the other hand more experience and superior hardware. The complete polar opposites.

The "quality is going up" excuse isn't working since ~mid 2021. L&P's been pushing the limits of DAZ&Photoshop for almost 4 years now, and yet things are still getting slower. The story has become worse since part 02 started back in 2022 aswell, atleast in my opinion. That is not what I'd consider "working hard". Nobody would argue that there are ups and downs as with everything we do in life, but in this case it's ONLY down and NEVER up.

Yes, you could commend him for keeping at it for so long. He's not abandoned it which most games going for that long (there's hardly any) are, but why would he? I wouldn't abandon $15.000-$20.000 a month either. But you know what you can do? Push the limits in regards to how little can you do and still sustain that kind of income.

You are talking about a guy who has never followed up on ANY of his old Patreon goals, and now he's made a new one basically asking for $30.000 a month in order to hire a "helper". He could hire several AAA game designers for that kind of money. Actual professionals. A LEAD game designer working at Blizzard Entertainment makes roughly $10-$11k a month. Junior game designers with bachelor degree roughly $6-$7k a month. AWAM is a Patreon funded porn game. Let that sink in for a minute.

I barely participate in this thread anymore, but seeing this comment I just had to give my 50 cents. The hype is gone and I haven't played the game since the gym update last year. Cheers!
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