VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[MykeRosy]

Whats up guys. What new news here.

 

[JagHond]

I agree with you, dear mate, except for one matter only.

I started to play not only the last update released contents since a few times, just to keep the overall feelings alive.
The results are that I'm having all the 'tension' to learn how the story is progressing still up in return.

So L&P something good happens to having done at least, as seems.

With best regards.

 

[ancienregimele]

Totally agree. The attention to detail is great in this game. That is why it is so popular. And I know he really cares for this game. But he definitely needs a bigger team because from the looks of it the story is going to be long and with the current pace it will only irritate his fans. All his character development really goes to waste because of huge gaps in updates. People don't remember every detail of the character after months and they only play the part recently added. Eventually people will lose interest in the story or he will have to rush it at some point because of the pressure from the fanbase

Telescoping of time has always been a factor with this game. What feels like years to us, (because it is), represents only days, or weeks in the AWAM dimension. One result is a disjointed feeling, an example of which is the museum boys, who are going to reappear. It has only been weeks in the game since they spoke to the sisters but half the fans can probably barely remember them, including me. Yes, it was Haru & er...whatshisname, wasn't it...?

 

[Hlextor]

Everything I've been able to confirm can be summarised with:

Hi Cat, you know I'm a Dylan fan. Can you please explain your diagram to me? Why does Dylan have a "0" on every playable day?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Hi Cat, you know I'm a Dylan fan. Can you please explain your diagram to me? Why does Dylan have a "0" on every playable day?

It isn't on every playable day. The listing for Dylan events come from this post here, and as noted at the bottom, the days that are blank, without "0" have at least one Dylan event that day. So for example, we know that Dylan has the Dylan/(Sophia or Emma) event at noon on Playable day 12 (update after next), and a small Dylan/Ellie event in the afternoon (update after that), hence Playable day 12 is blank. We also know that Dylan wont be at the horse-riding trip with Patricia on Playable day 15, and that being the only event that day, Dylan (and Ellie) has no events, hence it has a "0".

It also means that Dylan wont be participating in the "wild" event on Playable day 16, and that after Playable day 19, he only makes an appearance around half the time. On the days he does appear though, it could be multiple times that day.

 

[Hlextor]

It isn't on every playable day. The listing for Dylan events come from this post here, and as noted at the bottom, the days that are blank, without "0" have at least one Dylan event that day. So for example, we know that Dylan has the Dylan/(Sophia or Emma) event at noon on Playable day 12 (update after next), and a small Dylan/Ellie event in the afternoon (update after that), hence Playable day 12 is blank. We also know that Dylan wont be at the horse-riding trip with Patricia on Playable day 15, and that being the only event that day, Dylan (and Ellie) has no events, hence it has a "0".

It also means that Dylan wont be participating in the "wild" event on Playable day 16, and that after Playable day 19, he only makes an appearance around half the time. On the days he does appear though, it could be multiple times that day.

From whom did you get the information on which days the characters have an event or not?

 

[Alley_Cat]

From whom did you get the information on which days the characters have an event or not?

I only ever quote L&P, as directly as I can. If it's from his Patreon page, usually is via either farrah or Old dog. Occasionally it's from a post in this thread, like how we know Playable day 15 is a single day long event. You didn't follow the link in to the listing of Dylan events in my post? That would have told you for Dylan, and the reason I included the link.

For the Ellie events, the information comes from here.

For the Aiden and Bennett events, that just comes from what we learn in-game, and the yellow cells indicate the duration of the bonus storyline, which will "highly likely already have it's culmination" by Playable day 16. But since so far it looks to be Dylan/Ellie, and he doesn't have an event that day, there is no yellow cell for that day.

 

[Hlextor]

I only ever quote L&P, as directly as I can. If it's from his Patreon page, usually is via either farrah or Old dog. Occasionally it's from a post in this thread, like how we know Playable day 15 is a single day long event. You didn't follow the link in to the listing of Dylan events in my post? That would have told you for Dylan, and the reason I included the link.

For the Ellie events, the information comes from here.

For the Aiden and Bennett events, that just comes from what we learn in-game, and the yellow cells indicate the duration of the bonus storyline, which will "highly likely already have it's culmination" by Playable day 16. But since so far it looks to be Dylan/Ellie, and he doesn't have an event that day, there is no yellow cell for that day.

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

I doubt it, considering the whole point of the Yoga event, even when you play it from Sophia's POV and the lesbian route like I do, is the line from Marie "By the way, your son's really a cutie! Feel free to bring him along occasionally." If it was just a matter of appeasing Dylan fans, he did that with Dylan's POV. The fact that the Dylan/Marie path is unavoidable (because I tried), implies it's rather integral to his storyline, even moreso than Logan is to Ellie's.

 

[Hlextor]

Yeah, Dylan and Marie could be a possible relationship. Hopefully without a cut with Sophia as like with Emma.

 

[nexer]

The lesbian's lovers, definitely, don't think straight
First of all we have to clarify who is lesbian or bisexual. Julia is lesbian and Ellie is bisexual. Sophia is a bisexual as Patricia.
But here is my point of view.
Ellie, as bisexual, in real life, must always shower alone because shower with a woman it's like the shower between a hetero man/woman.
A bisexual woman or two, Sophia and Ellie our case, has/have to tell her shower companion before that she is bisexual otherwise is a perv and is peeping.
Sophia already knows that she is bisexual but doesn't accept plainly. It's a 38 years old woman with with 18 years of marriage behind her.
Ellie knows it too. She knows that she is bisexual an what she is doing is perv behavior, like a gay in males shower. What I'm saying is true


And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

 

[farrah]

The lesbian's lovers, definitely, doesn't think straight
First of all we have to clarify who is lesbian or bisexual. Julia is lesbian and Ellie is bisexual. Sophia is a bisexual as Patricia.
But here is my point of view.
Ellie, as bisexual, in real life, must always shower alone because shower with a woman it's like the shower between a hetero man/woman.
A bisexual woman or two, Sophia and Ellie our case, has/have to tell her shower companion before that she is bisexual otherwise is a perv and is peeping.
Sophia already knows that she is bisexual but doesn't accept plainly. It's a 38 years old woman with with 18 years of marriage behind her.
Ellie knows it too. She knows that she is bisexual an what she is doing is perv behavior, like a gay in males shower. What I'm saying is true
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And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

I see Ellie is horny and touched her wet bikini

 

[Old Dog]

I see Ellie is horny and touched her wet bikini

Yea a good indication of maybe a 3 some between them.
I am going to be nice to you today farrah

 

[koil74]

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thanks

 

[Alley_Cat]

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And to make it even more clear, imagine a straight man masturbating looking at two gays making love. Because I can't and is not different between a straight woman and two lesbians.

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

 

[Old Dog]

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

Ah right. These posts. I know them. But i forgot them already.
Yes there are some playable days on which Dylan has no event.
But nobody expected Dylan on the yoga event. So maybe L&P changed his storyline regarding Dylan cause of his popularity.

No body expected Dylan to be there but there was hints.
We where told that there would be choices to be made to be made for the yoga event.We all assumed that it would be yoga.Naked yoga or shower scene and we all missed the ball completely,the same thing happened with Alyssa and her mysterious friend.
So the hints where there

 

[nexer]

Well he's not a straight man then, is he? He's quite likely fooling himself. Who is the straight woman in your scenario, because on the Lesbian Temptation route, none of the three are. And to get that scene you need to be (LT >= 10 I believe).

Right, that man isn't. Like I say, I can't imagine it.
Ellie is bisexual. She says so herself, she admits it but Ellie doesn't know that her mother is. So, she showers with a straight
woman and doesn't tell Sophia that she likes women, sexually. IMO it's peeping. She's a peeping Tom.
She doesn't try to calm down, relax, love her mother like a daughter but seeks to fulfill her sexual fantasies. At best, both: a daughter's love and sex.

Whereas it's entirely logically consistent that a straight man (or a lesbian/bisexual woman in the case of Sophia, Julia and Ellie on the Lesbian Temptation route) enjoys seeing a bunch of women in sexual situations, and doesn't want to see dick.

True, but, tell me: "a straight man enjoys seeing a bunch of men in sexual situations"?

 

[Old Dog]

Right, that man isn't. Like I say, I can't imagine it.
Ellie is bisexual. She says so herself, she admits it but Ellie doesn't know that her mother is. So, she showers with a straight
woman and doesn't tell Sophia that she likes women, sexually. IMO it's peeping. She's a peeping Tom.
She doesn't try to calm down, relax, love her mother like a daughter but seeks to fulfill her sexual fantasies. At best, both: a daughter's love and sex.



True, but, tell me: "a straight man enjoys seeing a bunch of men in sexual situations"?

Maybe because Sophia has not yet accepted that she could be bi-sexual.
How can you say that Sophia doesn't know that Ellie likes women sexually when she is having a relationship with Julia,or where you talking about Sophia?
After what Julia/Sophia/Ellie/Patricia have done together I would think that Ellie could have a good idea about her mothers sexuality,even if Sophia has not come out and said it herself.

 

[Alley_Cat]

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True, but, tell me: "a straight man enjoys seeing a bunch of men in sexual situations"?

A straight man enjoying seeing men in sexual situations makes little sense. Probably at least a little bisexual, but that's his business. A gay or bisexual man enjoying seeing men in sexual situations makes perfect sense.

Not that sexuality is completely binary anyway, but last I heard was considered a spectrum. And since we're not kink shaming on this forum, what difference does it make anyway, whether a player or character is straight, gay or bisexual?

 

[nexer]

Maybe because Sophia has not yet accepted that she could be bi-sexual.
How can you say that Sophia doesn't know that Ellie likes women sexually when she is having a relationship with Julia?
After what Julia/Sophia/Ellie/Patricia have done together I would think that Ellie could have a good idea about her mothers sexuality,even if Sophia has not come out and said it herself.

Haha, good.
Soooo, the shower of the two has had from the beginning sex as a determinant. Sophia knews what Ellie was looking for, then. And, with all this she accepted. Sophia knows what a bisexual woman does with another woman.
Ellie commented that her friend Christine used to shower with her mother. But Christine is bisexual? Because if not, can't compare the two situations.
Where do I want to go? If Sophia showers with Ellie to enjoy sexually, next step is to accept it. She breaks a taboo with this, even if Sophia doesn't have vaginal sex next shower.
Let's see if Ellie will make Sophia accept it, that she really enjoys it, sexually. Once these words come out of her mouth, the door is open for hes two children.

Not that sexuality is completely binary anyway, but last I heard was considered a spectrum. And since we're not kink shaming on this forum, what difference does it make anyway, whether a player or character is straight, gay or bisexual?

Sorry, weren't my intentions shaming anybody. It is life itself, a straight man doesn't enjoy of it.