VN Ren'Py A Wife at Stake [v0.040] [eHellJay]

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Chuck6o

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While my comment feels akin to beating a dead horse, I feel the need to put it here. I read this thread several day's ago and wanted to reiterate what others have said. I support 15 people such as yourself CTDev on Patreon, well I support more but modders and others aren't relevant. Out of the 15 developers that I support Pink is the only one that I found on Steam. The
rest I found here or itch. Use that knowledge how you will.

I understand you position, as someone who's done many contract jobs I know what it feels like when you are not paid for your
work. Not only are you screwed for your effort and expertise, there's also wear and tear on tools, vehicles, hell I've spent hundreds on nails alone to finish a job and nothing. My point is it sucks, I know it sucks, and I think that most people know
it sucks. Oh sure there's a small percentage of people who get a kick out of screwing other people, but I honestly believe they're the minority.

I didn't download this, even though it sounds like a project I'd support, I'll abide by your wishes. While I didn't get this I'll not be going to Patreon to pledge support for something I've never tried, I will NEVER do that. One person I support leaves a note with each new update, he askes that no one leaks the game. And since he usually releases it as a demo 2 weeks later I think most abide by his wish. Ultimately you are a small business owner, even if you just make enough to pay the power for machines to run renders. If you feel the need to rant and rave about how unfair the world is, write out your rant, take a walk, drink a beer, smoke a dub, take some deep breaths, then revisit the rant, edit it then maybe post it.

I'm sorry if this sounds like I'm joining a dogpile, but I had to respond and get this off my chest, did you note that I took 2 days to respond? This is just advice freely given, I expect noting in return except insults and mockery. But I'm unphased because my shoulders are broad and my back, despite my age is still strong enough to bear it. I show myself out now and if you CTDev view this as a loss of a potential customer, maybe have learned something. GL
 

DigitisEtLingua

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Apr 13, 2023
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I'm not going to get into the argument about the rights and wrongs of what happened here, not least of all because I'm not entirely sure I understand some of it.

However, I have to say that I am gutted (with a capital GUTTED) that the game is bieng abandoned. I was loving it. I'm a fan of netorare and big fan of netorase and, in my view, you were walking a very clever line between the two. I was really, really, really looking forward to see how the story developed.

Please do think about resuming this story. My imagination will obviously continue the story but I really would like to see it, enjoy it told by the author.
I'd promised to myself not to add anything to this discussion, but as you're obviously looking for a reaction, I wouldn't want to frustrate you :sneaky:.

You're quite right: "Una moglie bellisima" is indeed the inspiration for this game. When I saw this piece of rubbish - and you'll admit it's a piece of rubbish - I fell head over heels in front of Laura Torrisi's curves, and I thought that if I changed the plot a bit, got rid of the gang of friends and the clergy, and concentrated on the love triangle, I might be able to make a game with some substance. I let the idea mature, and when I had enough material, I put it into a script.

You'll have realised that there would be sex in the game that there isn't on screen, but above all, the main idea was to place much more emphasis on the lure of money and the inevitable temptation. The scene where Laura leaves the door of her hotel room open and says to the handsome guy who snuck in "I knew it would end like this" before kissing him and spending the night with him left me speechless: what a shortcut. That's when I said to myself, we could do a better job
1° by letting her get caught up in the seducer's trap herself and
2° by making the husband even more responsible for what happens to them.

I kept what I thought I could use: fruit and vegetables, the plan to buy the shop, I just put my own spin on it.
I preferred a tv game show to a Pirelli-like calendar and I added the owner of the building as a 'temptress' friend, maybe lesbian too.
I also added the fruit figurines (nicked from the web) to justify an advertising campaign that pays off.
I also left a bit of a mystery as to why Laura and her family arrived in Puglia, just indicating that she was from Naples (La Camorra?), so that I could link Laura and Vincenzo without them knowing.

The game was supposed to have several endings: romantic, villainous, sobbingly sad or tragic...
It could go on for a while, following Laura on the set of the TV series, but not too long; in the long run it just drags on and on...
Should I mention games that never end (unlike mine, which all end very quickly :ROFLMAO:)?

It's late... I'll stop rambling here...

PS: everywhere on the web I read "Alea jacta est"; but you're right: there's no "j" letter in the latin alphabet (y)
I'm not going to get into the argument about the rights and wrongs of what happened here, not least of all because I'm not entirely sure I understand some of it.

However, I have to say that I am gutted (with a capital GUTTED) that the game is bieng abandoned. I was loving it. I'm a fan of netorare and big fan of netorase and, in my view, you were walking a very clever line between the two. I was seriously looking forward to seeing how the story developed ... develops(?).

Please do consider continuing the story. My imagination can continue the story of course but I really would like to see it; to live(?) it from the author's perspective ... and, so far as this game/story is concerned, I am prepared to contribute.
 

Enlight432

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We need a hero, version 0.4 has been uploaded on the developer site
 

TomUK

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Don't know how long the game is yet, just got to the start of the show, but the voice over is really annoying to the extent I've had to turn the volume off.
 

D2taA

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Well I was a supporter on his Web site, I regret doin that. All his games get abandoned, his ideals are better then his work ethics. They either get abandoned or put on hold. The one that says completed isn't really. If you play Debbie you'll that they're so many plot holes, it just leaves the player asking " what ta fuck it can't be over". It keeps showing the player that someone is spying on the wife while she is cheating. The wife keeps running the husband down to her lover and how she going to leaves him. Then she goes home and it's like nothing happened. It's like really what happens now, who was spying and is she really leaving or what. I know sometimes to ending are left open to interrupting what the reader or player wants but not here it just ends with the player with the feeling of what. I feel he was lazy and just needed so he could say he's completed something.


Look hero don't put yourself on this high ass pedestal and act like your above questioning. Just set your ass down and finish what you start, then and then people will pay your for your efforts. Nobody pays someone to just to weedeat around the edges they pay someone to mow the whole yard. Get over yourself.
 

AssRider

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About a year ago, I went to great lengths to financially support this developer. He was using a weird, proprietary site and out-of-the-ordinary payment methods.

The guy comes across as a bit of an outcast, refusing to comply with Patreon’s terms. I respected his stance, even though it became a major pain in the ass for me.

That said, I really enjoy his work. There’s something about his writing style and even the outdated graphics that just resonates with me.

I first heard about him right here on F95. Honestly, if his games were only available on obscure sites or Itch, I wouldn’t have spent a penny. I never pay without seeing the majority of the product, and I avoid demos, promos, and other marketing crap. In fact, when it comes to gaming, I usually only pay after I’ve completed the game. I have over 500 games on Steam, and my total playtime through the client is probably less than 20-30 hours.

It’s the same story with Lesson of Passion, which I’ve been a big fan of for years. Once megalol cracked their games after about a three-year hiatus, I became a paying member. It’s been years since I bought their games on Steam, yet I haven’t played a single one online on their shitty site. I only play these kinds of games on my Android phone. Sitting at a desktop or laptop for this? No way. I pay LOP purely as a donation.

I have a few Patreon memberships, but I still download from here, usually waiting for a compressed version. If I get too impatient, I’ll just make my own.

In my opinion, devs like Leo, eHellJay, and others with inflated egos are delusional. They’re stuck in outdated business models and act like jealous teenagers.

That said, to be fair, eHellJay could join this community tomorrow and it wouldn’t change anything for me. I won’t contribute until he actually finishes one of the games he started years ago.

LE: Just to add a new perspective on pirating ethics: a big chunk of my Steam and GOG library consists of games I have played and enjoyed on hacked Xbox 360 and Switch consoles. In the case of the former, I was simply unable to pay for games at that time. Years later, when my financial status changed, I decided to give back for games I will never replay. In the case of the latter ...I would rather have my penis cut than pay Nintendo more than I already have after buying the console in the first place.
 
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Well I was a supporter on his Web site, I regret doin that. All his games get abandoned, his ideals are better then his work ethics. They either get abandoned or put on hold. The one that says completed isn't really. If you play Debbie you'll that they're so many plot holes, it just leaves the player asking " what ta fuck it can't be over". It keeps showing the player that someone is spying on the wife while she is cheating. The wife keeps running the husband down to her lover and how she going to leaves him. Then she goes home and it's like nothing happened. It's like really what happens now, who was spying and is she really leaving or what. I know sometimes to ending are left open to interrupting what the reader or player wants but not here it just ends with the player with the feeling of what. I feel he was lazy and just needed so he could say he's completed something.


Look hero don't put yourself on this high ass pedestal and act like your above questioning. Just set your ass down and finish what you start, then and then people will pay your for your efforts. Nobody pays someone to just to weedeat around the edges they pay someone to mow the whole yard. Get over yourself.
You know what: I love you because you left me ;-)
 

AssRider

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Decided to give the game a try.

The good news is the game is very promising.
The bad news is the game is very promising.

I didn't even mind the dream sequence, when I usually do (I also discard games that have the "sleep sex" tag).

If it reaches close to an end, she (I know to take a hint) will again have my financial support.

Good luck!
 
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