VN Ren'Py A Wife at Stake [v0.050] [eHellJay]

[Deleted member 3186353]

Yall are the first people I've seen who've ever said that they like when the mc already comes with a spouse/LI. Most people seem to find them annoying especially when there are forced sex scenes between the two.

Can you let me know what does having a preexisting relationship add to the story for you? Is it just because you like the built in aspect of cheating or do you like for her to remain faithful?

Well, first of all I criticized the dev's other games because there was a pattern and I personally thought if the game is built in with a pre existing relationship which they were, why not make it more believable?

I get that a lot of games here don't really care about relationship unless their LI cheating on them lol. But, if the game is built on relationship, then they should at least make it more about that.

Also why people don't like their pre existing relationship is because most of the time they are name only relationship and never go beyond that which I personally don't like.

 

[Deleted member 3186353]

That's the kind of criticism I like: it's not aggressive, but it challenges me. You're right: I have a tendency to neglect the husband, to give him little substance, even though he's an essential part of the drama and the plot. I'm going to give it some serious thought. Thank you so much!

Thank for listening. But I gotta say after playing this one I think it had a little more interaction with the husband which makes it easier to choose the routes than the other games .
But on the other hand I think, by making the husband look old and unattractive, you made it worse . Like it feels like Laura's motivation for adventure revolves around Mario's lack of looks, energy and everything. Even though you can write good enough script to compensate for that but in a VN what's gonna be on the screen would be hard to ignore. I get the point that her husband lack those so, she finds it elsewhere but it's gonna be like a typical reason, less taboo.
If Mario was attractive, had a good personality or maybe dominant and even after that Laura try to find fun elsewhere, it would make her more daring, adventurous, naughty. And maybe people would like her interaction with him too.

 

[GokutheG]

Read my answer to a previous post regarding the routes. It's on route 4.

So the lesbian route is only for when the mc's life goes to hell? That's disappointing.

 

[CTDev]

Thank for listening. But I gotta say after playing this one I think it had a little more interaction with the husband which makes it easier to choose the routes than the other games .
But on the other hand I think, by making the husband look old and unattractive, you made it worse . Like it feels like Laura's motivation for adventure revolves around Mario's lack of looks, energy and everything. Even though you can write good enough script to compensate for that but in a VN what's gonna be on the screen would be hard to ignore. I get the point that her husband lack those so, she finds it elsewhere but it's gonna be like a typical reason, less taboo.
If Mario was attractive, had a good personality or maybe dominant and even after that Laura try to find fun elsewhere, it would make her more daring, adventurous, naughty. And maybe people would like her interaction with him too.

I started to reply, but I realised that I'd gone on for lines and lines of explanations. Sorry, I've stopped.
But to sum up, you should know that:

• Mario's looks are in no way decisive, Laura wouldn't have chosen him if that had been the case. She loves him as he is,
• the husband's profile is not the same on every route,
• the external events that occur are also different,
• ...

I have plenty of other comments, but I'll stop here...
Thank you for your opinion, your insight and your contribution.

 

[CTDev]

So the lesbian route is only for when the mc's life goes to hell? That's disappointing.

Choosing always means giving up. Sorry about that!

 

[KarokaKOHORT]

Tbh couldn't care less whether and how much it's based of/inspired by any movie. It's a good story so far, flows well, has very decent amount of choices and the update makes me optimistic regarding the future development. The translation issues aren't that bad, and I'll only point out that in a scene between Katya and Vincenzo Laura does get misgendered in a line "You mean... Too bad for his boyfriend?"

 

[CTDev]

Tbh couldn't care less whether and how much it's based of/inspired by any movie. It's a good story so far, flows well, has very decent amount of choices and the update makes me optimistic regarding the future development. The translation issues aren't that bad, and I'll only point out that in a scene between Katya and Vincenzo Laura does get misgendered in a line "You mean... Too bad for his boyfriend?"

Thanks for the comment. Developing a game is pretty exhausting work, especially when you're doing it on your own. It's not that I'm complaining, I like it, but imagining the story, making the renders, integrating the Ren'Py code, that's already a lot of work. So when I get to the end, I find it hard to pay 100% attention when I'm rereading. I could do with an English-language proofreader, but I don't earn enough to pay for one yet, so I decided to invest in an eGPU (iMac obligatory) and an nVidia RTX graphics card.
Thank you for indulging the developers, be they myself or others, who toil and do their best. As someone who knows how much work goes into it, even the complete craps (and God knows there is some), I don't take the liberty of criticising them. I just shut up and move on. Let the rage-mongers do the same!

 

[Erik Shaw]

when is the next update?

 

[darmoe]

There is another game by the same dev and it's called Naughty. Download is free

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[shamss01]

Do anyone have the latest version?

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Is it possible at some point, to kick Vincenzo in the Nuts?!?!? This Guy pisses me off..... So needy...yuck

Yeah..and if i am on the faithful way and avoid any unnecessary Contact with him (Vince), how come MC is loosing "points or percents or whatever" with her husband/relationship? Doesn t make sense at all....

 

[CTDev]

Is it possible at some point, to kick Vincenzo in the Nuts?!?!? This Guy pisses me off..... So needy...yuck

Yeah..and if i am on the faithful way and avoid any unnecessary Contact with him (Vince), how come MC is loosing "points or percents or whatever" with her husband/relationship? Doesn t make sense at all....

1° I hadn't plan any violence until today. But now that I've read you, I'll think twice...
2° In life, not everything depends on what YOU do. Other people do things too, behaviors change, people change, or events happen that are neither your fault nor anyone else's, but that affect the way you perceive your surroundings and the people you live with. No? Doesn't that make sense at all?

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

1° I hadn't plan any violence until today. But now that I've read you, I'll think twice...
2° In life, not everything depends on what YOU do. Other people do things too, behaviors change, people change, or events happen that are neither your fault nor anyone else's, but that affect the way you perceive your surroundings and the people you live with. No? Doesn't that make sense at all?

Sooo..to follow your statement to conclusion....it doesn t matter what I (FMC) do? Its breaking down to "good luck" in your VN, if the MC/FMC stay together? Why do you have choices in the first place, if they are meaningless or mean harm to an relationship? If you want "reality" for your Game, think of it how real Couples treat eachother. There should be respect and love and they are commited to eachother. This is something you can feel and see in most Couples. If you just want to tell a simple cheating Story, it should be easier for you to get rid of the existing Choices and make the whole Game kinetic. For me your "free Demo" was an eye opener....if there are Choices to save a Relationship (and stay on the faithful path) i would like to choose them with an real effect on the Gameplay. For e.g. i made the FMC dislike "Vincenzo" (by YOUR made Choices) from the beginning, but the Game doesn t really let me. Over and over FMC has to put up with him. FMC couldn t even prevent the Commercial Shot, although I have chosen in a previous option that MC/FMC decide against it. So why do you give the illusion of a choice if it doesn't matter anyway? Will there ever be a "good and faithful" Ending for MC and FMC?

 

[CTDev]

Sooo..to follow your statement to conclusion....it doesn t matter what I (FMC) do? Its breaking down to "good luck" in your VN, if the MC/FMC stay together? Why do you have choices in the first place, if they are meaningless or mean harm to an relationship? If you want "reality" for your Game, think of it how real Couples treat eachother. There should be respect and love and they are commited to eachother. This is something you can feel and see in most Couples. If you just want to tell a simple cheating Story, it should be easier for you to get rid of the existing Choices and make the whole Game kinetic. For me your "free Demo" was an eye opener....if there are Choices to save a Relationship (and stay on the faithful path) i would like to choose them with an real effect on the Gameplay. For e.g. i made the FMC dislike "Vincenzo" (by YOUR made Choices) from the beginning, but the Game doesn t really let me. Over and over FMC has to put up with him. FMC couldn t even prevent the Commercial Shot, although I have chosen in a previous option that MC/FMC decide against it. So why do you give the illusion of a choice if it doesn't matter anyway? Will there ever be a "good and faithful" Ending for MC and FMC?

First of all, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not looking for polemics or sparring. Having said that, you should read the thread. There are 4 routes in this story. They separate completely at the end of episode 6; until then, they diverge.
In the first two, Laura will quickly succumb to the one who irritates you so much. Avoid them! These roads are for the impatient. The nuance is that in one route, Laura undergoes events, in the other one she decides: Vincenzo thinks he's the hunter when in fact he's the prey. In the third, he'll always be there, certain to get the provincial girl into bed, but he may well come across a bone! This is the path of fidelity, but you'll have to avoid the pitfalls, because a couple can always be put at risk. In the final route, the handsome man disappears completely (Alleluja!). Laura doesn't win the contest, doesn't shoot the series and won't get any more ad shoots thanks to him, so it's Gloria (the owner) who will try to take things in hand. She believes Laura has potential, but it could go either way!
I'll stop here. I think I've written and revealed enough.
One last thing though: Don't jump to conclusions. Give it time. There will be small inconsistencies in the game, and even mistakes. I see them every time I reread. That doesn't mean it's crap.

 

[holy_cat]

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One last thing though: Don't jump to conclusions. Give it time. There will be small inconsistencies in the game, and even mistakes. I see them every time I reread. That doesn't mean it's crap.

I have read this discussion... for me it is also a bit strange that the last crucial choice Laura makes in the update – I don’t want to spoil – is irrespective of her previous choices. Is it an inconsistency? I dunno. It's not that important. Anyway, probably contrary to StrawberryCheese83, I'm not looking for a 'simple faithful path'. The more twisted, the better.

By the way, I understand that the faithful path does not necessarily lead to a good ending. Like in real life (and StrawberryCheese83 asks for reality in the game), this can lead to regrets about missed opportunities, unjustified jealousy that kills the relationship, and mutual complaints. This ending can be pretty (unpretty ) bitter.

When you wrote about the four endings (some time ago), I thought about possible alternatives, or more twisted scenarios. And I even drafted 'the route no. 5'. Your post reminded me about it because Vincenzo was more a prey than a hunter in my scenario. In this case 'the cheating route' leads to a good ending (in some way ). Sorry for treating your FMC in such a way... but I like her, really. Believe me.

The Route No. 5

Thanks to Vincenzo, Laura discovers a completely new world of increasingly stronger emotions, coming from physical attraction, crossing barriers and breaking taboos. Cheating is one of them. But soon Mario is almost out of the picture and cheating on him is too easy and not arousing for Laura anymore.

In the meantime Vincenzo, former seducer, falls for Laura. They become a couple. However, this time Laura, looking for new thrills, starts cheating on Vincenzo. With girls, Vincenzo’s colleagues, shady ‘sponsors’… Her sex adventures become more and more risky and it’s only a matter of time when Vincenzo learns about it. When it happens, he is devastated and leaves Laura.

At this point Laura realizes that she is addicted to dirty, risky sex and decides to undergo a rehab. After that, she decides to come back to Bari (sorry, to Bria), to meet Mario, with whom she has not had contact for a long time… However, she finds Mario happily married and with a child… There is no return to her old life and old self.

After coming back to Rome, she has no money, zero real friends and no perspectives in modelling or commercials. One of her former ‘sponsors’ makes her an offer she cannot refuse: Laura appears in a porn movie. The beginning is tough – but soon she finds out that sex on stage (or movie set) can give her both pleasure and money.

Laura makes a name for herself in the adult movie industry; the highlight of her porn career is participating in the bunga-bunga… getting acquainted – in many ways – with the most important politicians in the country. After that Laura decides to write an autobiography (a film script and a virtual novel are based on it) and then to go into politics. Today she is a Member of Parliament. Alone but in some way happy and fulfilled.

Good ending (I guess…). Curtain down.

 

[CTDev]

I have read this discussion... for me it is also a bit strange that the last crucial choice Laura makes in the update – I don’t want to spoil – is irrespective of her previous choices. Is it an inconsistency? I dunno. It's not that important. Anyway, probably contrary to StrawberryCheese83, I'm not looking for a 'simple faithful path'. The more twisted, the better.

By the way, I understand that the faithful path does not necessarily lead to a good ending. Like in real life (and StrawberryCheese83 asks for reality in the game), this can lead to regrets about missed opportunities, unjustified jealousy that kills the relationship, and mutual complaints. This ending can be pretty (unpretty ) bitter.

When you wrote about the four endings (some time ago), I thought about possible alternatives, or more twisted scenarios. And I even drafted 'the route no. 5'. Your post reminded me about it because Vincenzo was more a prey than a hunter in my scenario. In this case 'the cheating route' leads to a good ending (in some way ). Sorry for treating your FMC in such a way... but I like her, really. Believe me.

The Route No. 5

Thanks to Vincenzo, Laura discovers a completely new world of increasingly stronger emotions, coming from physical attraction, crossing barriers and breaking taboos. Cheating is one of them. But soon Mario is almost out of the picture and cheating on him is too easy and not arousing for Laura anymore.

In the meantime Vincenzo, former seducer, falls for Laura. They become a couple. However, this time Laura, looking for new thrills, starts cheating on Vincenzo. With girls, Vincenzo’s colleagues, shady ‘sponsors’… Her sex adventures become more and more risky and it’s only a matter of time when Vincenzo learns about it. When it happens, he is devastated and leaves Laura.

At this point Laura realizes that she is addicted to dirty, risky sex and decides to undergo a rehab. After that, she decides to come back to Bari (sorry, to Bria), to meet Mario, with whom she has not had contact for a long time… However, she finds Mario happily married and with a child… There is no return to her old life and old self.

After coming back to Rome, she has no money, zero real friends and no perspectives in modelling or commercials. One of her former ‘sponsors’ makes her an offer she cannot refuse: Laura appears in a porn movie. The beginning is tough – but soon she finds out that sex on stage (or movie set) can give her both pleasure and money.

Laura makes a name for herself in the adult movie industry; the highlight of her porn career is participating in the bunga-bunga… getting acquainted – in many ways – with the most important politicians in the country. After that Laura decides to write an autobiography (a film script and a virtual novel are based on it) and then to go into politics. Today she is a Member of Parliament. Alone but in some way happy and fulfilled.

Good ending (I guess…). Curtain down.

The one who makes the game is not the one who plays it, so I trust your comments. But I have to confess that I don't understand at all your questions about this last choice. I must have screwed up somewhere, but I can't see where!

In any case, following your comments, I've looked at Laura's choices again, and even though her mood may fluctuate, there's nothing inconsistent. Depending on the successive choices, but also on the events over which the player has no control (as in life, you can't control everything), the scores of each player (mainly Mario and Vincenzo) change.

I'd still like to point out that just because Laura seems to want to remain faithful to Mario, that doesn't mean she can't decide to kiss Vincenzo to maximise her chances of winning the competition. It may be a bit childish and simplistic, but there it is. Nobody died, right?

In episode 5, hold on tight! The couple will be put under pressure and that's when the crucial second choice will give the game its (almost) definitive direction.

 

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[RuthlessSlayer]

Today I want to test this game
The previous games by this developer were really bad. First, the FMC is introduced as a strong character who wouldn't cheat, but then, in one night or for minor reasons, she cheats on her husband and gets a divorce. Lol
If I wanted porn logic, I would go to Pornhub, not read a visual novel

 

[Pif paf]

where money seems easier, especially when you're young and beautiful. But it's also full of dangers.

yeah, especially STD s and AIDS...

 

[StrawberryCheese83]

Part 5...hmm.....I don t know. Something is missing. There s a lack of choices for Laura. For e.g :

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I ve played a lot of VN`s and i ve always loved some kind of "ownership" over the MC (guess, we all do)....but this Game...its really hard to handle. Some decisions make sense and most of the decisions doesn t. Instead of going forward in your choosen direction, the Dev pushes you around with confusing choices...*sighs*....and you ending up in a direction, where you didn t want to go in the first place.... I guess, i m gonna stick to other VN`s with more clear direction. Thats the price you have to pay, if you are an romantic and always want to have a good ending. Good look, Dev.