You've been naughty... Here's your punishment!Just a hint fellas.....cheating is forced in this one (Laura,EP 6). If you want a choice...there is none....!This is not how a proper VN should work...but..yeah. The Point System is useless (6,9 % for Vince and she s kissing him!?!? Yeah...right) I`am out. Peace.
Everything is fine again, I corrected the game myself so that it is now logical (based on my Choices). Took me 20 minutes to mod it. Deleted a few renders, changed the text slightly and now it fits (textually) with the choices I (or Laura) made. The Molester (Vince) is gone...
Thank you for these remarkable improvements. I can't wait to play one of your games...Yes, thank you, but I'll pass...raping isn t something that i want to watch.
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Its enough for me to correct AWAS
! But seriously....you've still done a good job. Its your Point system that bothers me and therefore the resulting consequences. Thats the ONLY thing...because it doesn t follow any human logic. If i despise a person and push him/her away...over and over...how can i allow this Person gettin close to me?!? (the last forced Scene in the Villa is in hinsight of my played decisions ridiculous) Even you have to admit...that this is more than odd...! You even have a render in Ep 6 where Laura says “bye..love you” to Vince...even if you're on the path where you've rejected ALL flirting attempts....! How does that make Sense? I think that you are a good Developer and i really like your Game, but maybe you should switch to a simple YES or NO precedure, like almost everybody else. Put as many spicy Scenes in your Games as you want, but leave the decision to see them to the Players. Don t force the Player into a pre-choosen LI. I haven t played the other Parts of your Game (EP 9??) and i don t know how your Story will further unfold (since you are offering 4 different Gamepaths) but after this Episode i really don t know if i want to see more of this forced stuff. I know that you probably give a s***t about my opinion but maybe you have an open mind and you just try to put yourself in your players' shoes and play through your own game very slowly. Maybe then you'll see one or two logical errors....! Anyway...i still wish you all the Best and a lot of success with your Game. You've hit the nail on the head: life is almost never “yes” or “no”, and all my games suffer from this approach to refusing basic choices. Already in Think Twice, the players couldn't understand the behavior of the very first protagonist, who preferred the success of his offshore company project to saving his marriage. He was playing on the edge and could only lose. It drove many crazy. And they weren't as polite as you, believe me. I'm not inviting you to play Think Twice because you don't like love stories that end badly, even though they're my inspiration and my business. So you're in for a world of hurt.Its enough for me to correct AWAS
It seems like you're saying you're writing a kinetic novel but with false choices that don't matter if the player doesn't want the mc to hook up with a certain character. Choices that are ignored are always annoying to players and it would be better to remove them if the options to reject a LI are ignored.You've hit the nail on the head: life is almost never “yes” or “no”, and all my games suffer from this approach to refusing basic choices. Already in Think Twice, the players couldn't understand the behavior of the very first protagonist, who preferred the success of his offshore company project to saving his marriage. He was playing on the edge and could only lose. It drove many crazy. And they weren't as polite as you, believe me. I'm not inviting you to play Think Twice because you don't like love stories that end badly, even though they're my inspiration and my business. So you're in for a world of hurt.
Similarly, how else can you explain Debbie's dissonance when she's married to the bravest guy on earth, and she's banging the hunk who wouldn't look at her in high school, just because she's flattered to be able to do so today? That's why I was writing about the past catching up with her and a missed opportunity in the teaser. Is this moral? Of course not! But I'm not interested in “moral” stories! (Who is here, seriously?)
With AWAS, it's a little different, but in the same vein: if Laura is too accommodating with Vincenzo, even though she wants to keep him at a distance, it's because she doesn't want to spoil the financial opportunity. She doesn't want to “break the bank” and miss out on buying the building. And besides, she was a great fan of him three years ago (her secret sweet dream)... I haven't emphasized this point enough.
If there's one thing I'd greatly improve, it's the precise, progressive construction of the characters and the story. But hey, I make mistakes and I learn...
My problem is that all this takes an inordinate amount of time, which I don't have, and it would have to be proofread by third parties, which isn't done.
And if it's to develop bullshit stories that don't suit me, and for once I'm going to write about it: like 95% of the stories found here, I'd rather refrain from publishing regularly. I'm going to build my stories at ease, completely, and I'll only publish them, month by month, when they're finished. So... See you in 3 years.
PS. The point system starts making sense only from the end of episode 7, when another protagonist tries his luck, and mostly in route 3, where Laura stays faithful - because from my point of view, only kissing Vincenzo is not cheating. And don't talk to me about NTR, I didn't even think of it a single second!
I totally disagree with your description and analysis. If the choices don't matter, how do you explain the fact that there are 4 routes? This game is anything but a KN. But I'm not making a game to pander to players, or to offer them only what they expect and have already done a thousand times. That's my choice. If that bores you, if you can't stand waiting to see how a plot develops, if you want things to be black or white, please don't play any more of my games, because they'll never suit you. I've got two more in the pipeline, "Inoculation" and "What Goes Around...", and I can tell you they'll be of the same ilk. You've been warned!
You may have 4 routes but if you're getting complaints about choices where the player has the mc turn down a character's advances at every turn but still have a sex scene with them regardless of player's input that is not satisfying. How do these choices matter if they aren't respected?
Did you play the game beyond episode 6? Did you explore every route? Did you see Laura having sex with the guy? Why are you writing so much without having a clue of what really happens? What StrawberryCheese83 wrote is that she kisses him; nothing less, nothing more. But for him/her, it's just unbearable. If you really want to know how the story turns, discover it by yourself. I tell you: in two routes, the guy won't fuck her that soon.
And I think this is the problem. If the player constantly picks the option not to engage with a LI it can cause frustration if it happens despite that.
Okay. Ok... Here we're verging on silly militancy: I write you that you're wrong about the rest of the game and you persist.
Ah ah ah Mr./Mrs. NMTTL...please let me intervene here : This "Kiss" is not unbearable for me....its more like that the "kiss" doesn t fit in my Gamepath at all. But i m gonna give you the benefit of an doubt that aaaall of this isn t a big deal and that you will stick to your word that one of your 4 Gamepaths contains a faithful way. I feel a little bit sorry for you that you think that every person in here is a weirdo/pervert and just want to get a quick fap. Take a look at the search Section and you will find a Point that says "Romance"...There are sooo many Games in here that contains real Romance and Gamepaths where you can clearly make a Choice between different Li`s. There are even Games without any sexual content and a good Story. We all have different tastes and i am not judging (neither you nor anybody else) and its your god damn right to create a Story about your fantasies/tastes. If you find your personal fantasy fullfilled in "destroying" a relationship...then so be it. It is okay....but be aware that this is something what most of the Players doesn t want at all during a Gameplay (without a Choice). Most of (us) doesn t want to play a "Jack in the Box"....Gamepaths should be clearly marked as a "Slutroute", "faithful", "cheating", or "sharing"...! If you have (at some point) the Time and check out a few different Games (similar to your Game) you will find out that most of the successfull Games in this Forum (and on Patreon/Itchio) are clearly marked with a Content warning. So, usually you know what kind of VN you are playing. If a Dev gives a shit about the Content and doesn t clear it up there is ALWAYS a big argument in the other threads. Been there a lot of time. Your solution is easy : Mark your Goals clearly. You can use your fantasy, thats total fine, but mark it. Tell the Ppl what awaits them in your Game...and write in plain English that your Game (for e.g.) doesn t have good endings; that the Wife will Cheat behind husband back or whatever...that cheating, sharing, ntr, nts, cuckold could be a part of your Game....and if your Game have a "love", or "revenge" Route...mark it also. Ppl. love this...and they know from the beginning how to deal with your Game.
Well, I'm going to have to clarify a few things too, because once again you're writing without knowledge.Ah ah ah Mr./Mrs. NMTTL...please let me intervene here : This "Kiss" is not unbearable for me....its more like that the "kiss" doesn t fit in my Gamepath at all. But i m gonna give you the benefit of an doubt that aaaall of this isn t a big deal and that you will stick to your word that one of your 4 Gamepaths contains a faithful way. I feel a little bit sorry for you that you think that every person in here is a weirdo/pervert and just want to get a quick fap. Take a look at the search Section and you will find a Point that says "Romance"...There are sooo many Games in here that contains real Romance and Gamepaths where you can clearly make a Choice between different Li`s. There are even Games without any sexual content and a good Story. We all have different tastes and i am not judging (neither you nor anybody else) and its your god damn right to create a Story about your fantasies/tastes. If you find your personal fantasy fullfilled in "destroying" a relationship...then so be it. It is okay....but be aware that this is something what most of the Players doesn t want at all during a Gameplay (without a Choice). Most of (us) doesn t want to play a "Jack in the Box"....Gamepaths should be clearly marked as a "Slutroute", "faithful", "cheating", or "sharing"...! If you have (at some point) the Time and check out a few different Games (similar to your Game) you will find out that most of the successfull Games in this Forum (and on Patreon/Itchio) are clearly marked with a Content warning. So, usually you know what kind of VN you are playing. If a Dev gives a shit about the Content and doesn t clear it up there is ALWAYS a big argument in the other threads. Been there a lot of time. Your solution is easy : Mark your Goals clearly. You can use your fantasy, thats total fine, but mark it. Tell the Ppl what awaits them in your Game...and write in plain English that your Game (for e.g.) doesn t have good endings; that the Wife will Cheat behind husband back or whatever...that cheating, sharing, ntr, nts, cuckold could be a part of your Game....and if your Game have a "love", or "revenge" Route...mark it also. Ppl. love this...and they know from the beginning how to deal with your Game.
Btw..i am a Male, not in my 20`s and not in my 40`s, and suprise, suprise i am working on the "right Side" of the law. Maybe thats the reason why i can t stand injustice, cheating and/or lying. Maybe it s a little bit odd the be on a pirate Site...but..ah...who gives a Crap!?!?
