I would say its pretty hard to separate sex and love. Most people come away feeling empty when they have sex without the love/relationship aspect. People can lie to themselves for a time but eventually it isn't fulfilling enough. Sex is still a vulnerable intimate act. It means more to people then just body parts fitting together. We know this because a woman or man who is sexually assaulted deals with trauma that is typically deeper then if they had just been beaten up. I have always said when you beat someone up you strengthen them. When you rape someone you take a piece of their soul; so to speak.
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Okay so... the House party. For the most part the core pathing is in place. Just disconnected at that point.
The dev leaves it ambiguous whether that was your wife or not. But the actual game it's self says it's not your
wife. There is literally zero difference game wise if you get wine or make her get drunk. The only thing that happens
is if it's wine she comes out of the bathroom and you meet her in the hall. If she gets drunk, you can't find her
and Autumn shows up. The problem here is, the MC wakes up with his wife the next day. There is zero mention
as to what happened after you talk to Autumn. Just Autumn convo ends zap to next day. The entire chunk of time
is missing which is why everyone has such confusion and mixed feelings here and you are literally forced to fill in
that gap yourself. With your own head canon. Deliberate of not, I'm choosing not. It would be easy to add the
"wife cheating" / NTR points here. But they are not there. Choose to let her get drunk, you do not get "wife cheated" /
NTR points like you do at other times. SO in the end if I modded this, I could easily say yes. If you are fucking Katherine,
which if I remember right is a path also missing from that event.. she asks my hubby and he rejected her. But that
path isn't there if he said yes that I'm aware of. I might have forgotten. Keep on mind, there IS a suggestion that the MC
could also fuck Katherine at that party BEFORE the bedroom scene. SO if you could, it would happen BEFORE you can't
find her. Meaning YOU cheated first at the party haha Without that pathing you don't know if she caught you or not and
how she may or may not have reacted. Also remember that later Katherine has all kinds of nasty things to say about the
MC. Whether you slept with her or not. Again another missing / broken path.
See. At least I'm doing all the quality control work for the dev hahahahaha
Your fine Nafig. Like I said. It's just a discussion. And a good one too
@zip476 You're very right. Love and sex have no place at all where assault is concerned.
I could lie and say these kinds of stories are a sick and twisted form of therapy for me but the truth is
they aren't. I have seen some porn that I truly can not watch. Things I know are just pretend but hit my
PTSD to hard. So far this story and ones like it haven't come close to that. probably because I'm so mad at
the MC that inserting myself as the wife character I feel but a streak of resentment along with my personal drive
to not be the "unfaithful". So I always steer my male MCs toward more dominant, non cuckold choices.
In the end I want my hubby to take control and lead the situation. And I want those options.
Netorase Phone is a perfect example. And I can be the wife/girlfriend that MC wants me to be with a great
big smile n my face. Does that make me a bad person, girlfriend or wife? I don't know. That's up to you all
to decide for yourself I guess. If the dev went back and fixed the pathing we'd see a completely different
game. On where on the one hand the MC is a man of action and one where he's a complete loser.
Right now we kind of having a confusing mixture of both with the added bonus of him literally not being
able to do what he wants to do because a God modding dev won't let him hahaha
The dev leaves it ambiguous whether that was your wife or not. But the actual game it's self says it's not your
wife. There is literally zero difference game wise if you get wine or make her get drunk. The only thing that happens
is if it's wine she comes out of the bathroom and you meet her in the hall. If she gets drunk, you can't find her
and Autumn shows up. The problem here is, the MC wakes up with his wife the next day. There is zero mention
as to what happened after you talk to Autumn. Just Autumn convo ends zap to next day. The entire chunk of time
is missing which is why everyone has such confusion and mixed feelings here and you are literally forced to fill in
that gap yourself. With your own head canon. Deliberate of not, I'm choosing not. It would be easy to add the
"wife cheating" / NTR points here. But they are not there. Choose to let her get drunk, you do not get "wife cheated" /
NTR points like you do at other times. SO in the end if I modded this, I could easily say yes. If you are fucking Katherine,
which if I remember right is a path also missing from that event.. she asks my hubby and he rejected her. But that
path isn't there if he said yes that I'm aware of. I might have forgotten. Keep on mind, there IS a suggestion that the MC
could also fuck Katherine at that party BEFORE the bedroom scene. SO if you could, it would happen BEFORE you can't
find her. Meaning YOU cheated first at the party haha Without that pathing you don't know if she caught you or not and
how she may or may not have reacted. Also remember that later Katherine has all kinds of nasty things to say about the
MC. Whether you slept with her or not. Again another missing / broken path.
See. At least I'm doing all the quality control work for the dev hahahahaha
Your fine Nafig. Like I said. It's just a discussion. And a good one too
@zip476 You're very right. Love and sex have no place at all where assault is concerned.
I could lie and say these kinds of stories are a sick and twisted form of therapy for me but the truth is
they aren't. I have seen some porn that I truly can not watch. Things I know are just pretend but hit my
PTSD to hard. So far this story and ones like it haven't come close to that. probably because I'm so mad at
the MC that inserting myself as the wife character I feel but a streak of resentment along with my personal drive
to not be the "unfaithful". So I always steer my male MCs toward more dominant, non cuckold choices.
In the end I want my hubby to take control and lead the situation. And I want those options.
Netorase Phone is a perfect example. And I can be the wife/girlfriend that MC wants me to be with a great
big smile n my face. Does that make me a bad person, girlfriend or wife? I don't know. That's up to you all
to decide for yourself I guess. If the dev went back and fixed the pathing we'd see a completely different
game. On where on the one hand the MC is a man of action and one where he's a complete loser.
Right now we kind of having a confusing mixture of both with the added bonus of him literally not being
able to do what he wants to do because a God modding dev won't let him hahaha
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I'm not sure if this is a missing event, or another bug. But, On the "fucked Katherine path" MC tells Rick that he had sex with her. Later, Rick tells MC's wife trying to convince her to have sex with him, but the conversation ends. Then a while later MC goes to sleep and the conversation starts again and ends with her giving Rick a BJ. Nothing is mentioned if it was a dream or it actually happened.
Have you or anyone else found this?
You would think that if a woman (in whatever condition) is fucked against her will at work, she would immediately quit and take legal action... And then they say the MC is the dumbest person in the "game".
That's why I always say, there was no rape, she does everything voluntarily. No behavior consistent with a victim of sexual violence - there was no rape.
I played the recent update again to see something and honestly I‘m annoyed. First off, they didn’t even show where the wife went after Autumn and her left the club, This has happen many times and we don’t even get to see where she went or what happened to her. Secondly I don’t like that the dev is focusing more on the mother when it should be focusing more on the wife after all it’s called a wife’s life. I honestly wished I was playing as Samuel cuz the MC kept on making stupid decisions and not just being a man and confront his issues
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If we take it technically:
- she was still able to refuse to go with Autumn to place where Samuil was, but she didn't
- she was no held or tied at this place, so she still can bite, punch or kick, if she want to stop that, but she don't
- she was able to go home, even after 7 wild rounds with Samuil, wasted girl after that amount of sex immediately fall asleep because she is completely spent and without any energy left to do anything
- she came to home on her own feet - no one carried her, which usually happens to peoples, who are too drunken
- she verbally responded to MC after arriving with no problem, which not happens if someone is really wasted
- she was fully aware of what happened at previous night, peoples who are wasted have no clear vision of what they did
- her further contact with Autumn and Samuil, shows no big self-contradiction to what happened 1 day ago, not to mention that she again goes to smoke with camp gang.
Her statement that "she not wanted it" is only pose for herself, to not judge herself for actions she did.
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Wow! A lot of great stuff here!
@torkenstiem All of that is missing and broken pathing. Why Chris would give Rick all of that makes
no sense. And Rick being so hateful to the MC is out of nowhere since they've all known each other for so long.
A lot of these character act more like degenerate monsters than people. Autumn's total disregard for the wife and
their friendship... until poof, she's a good person that cares out of nowhere... Rick and his friendship with the MC
and then out of nowhere joining in on the clusterfuck blackmailing. It's dumb. And since the pathing was
completely skipped before the latest update, nothing is as it should be. She's not cheating though the dialogue
clearly has cheating elements in it.
Just for disclosure I set it the story aside after the hubby has a long talk with my character (the wife) after the night
club when he tells her everything and they make up. He forgives her because he knows she isn't actually cheating
but being blackmailed and forced to do these things and they move on together. That's where I wanted to stop.
Then I started modding the game so know every direction this thing goes from that.
The rape and work and consent thing. I dunno if this is just a guy thing, but I'm gonna ask you.
How many of you have been in a job or relationship that was highly toxic, abusive and degrading but you still
stuck with it any way because you had to. Maybe you needed the money and couldn't quit and your boss knew
they had you under their thumb and could just bully you to no end. But you didn't quit.
I don't think many of you guys REALLY understand what it's like to go to work or be online and have guys
CONSTANTLY sexually harassing you. Managers touching you (I've had women do it to, it's not just men).
I had one general manager once get so riled up at me he literally started taking his clothes off during his
tirade at me I was like pissing myself. What had I done? Wore a sweeter that day because it was cold outside
and he didn't like it. He wasn't even my boss. He was my boss's boss just there on inspection. And my boss
just stood there. What could he do? And what did my ex say? "What an asshole" then blew it off. We needed
the money. I was the only one working. I had my ex constantly telling me how they wanted to see me fuck
this coworker and that coworker. But then would get furious if someone touched me or a client flirted with me.
This is real life fellas. Not the game but what I'm telling you. Being trapped is legit.
And I can tell you. Having been sexually assaulted several times in my life, it's not black and white.
Some of us have no choice but to clean up, straighten up and just keep going like nothing happened.
There's no point in even reporting it and honestly I fucking hate all that Me2 bullshit.
I've also been blackmailed. Twice I think. By people I thought were friends. Agree to this or that or I tell
your partner or wow... how many texts have i sent someone that they manipulated and sent to other people
claiming I did things I didn't. I have literally been accused of doing more things I never did, than accused of
things I have done.
This is the reality of being a girl. So don't be like "All because she didn't quit she asked for it or deserved it."
That's bullshit and makes no different than Samuil. And I have know A LOT of Samuils in my life. Some where
even girls.
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OH! fun trivia! Why is this girl all about modding games? Because of guy friends! hahaha
Telling me I can't play x, y or z game unless it's modded. Acting like I'm a stupid bitch that
can't understand what that means. So I learned how to mod games. I made a critic of a VN
that a creator didn't like and they told me I should just make my own. So I learned how to
mod theirs and it's much better now hahaha And here we are hahaha
I'm so obsessed with modding now that my whole Youtube career is based on it.
Telling me I can't play x, y or z game unless it's modded. Acting like I'm a stupid bitch that
can't understand what that means. So I learned how to mod games. I made a critic of a VN
that a creator didn't like and they told me I should just make my own. So I learned how to
mod theirs and it's much better now hahaha And here we are hahaha
I'm so obsessed with modding now that my whole Youtube career is based on it.
I don't want to offend the author of the comment, but the comment is hypocritical and false, it's self-justification.
The first fundamental mistake of the author of the comment. There is ALWAYS a choice/way out, BUT in most cases, following the RIGHT choice is hard, painful and very difficult, the "other" route is easier. It's like the difference between going uphill and going downhill. I myself have changed jobs several times due to conflicts with my bosses. There were times when I had to leave for a low-paying job, BUT not expose my ass to the boss. But now I'm not ashamed to look back, I didn't betray.
The second fundamental mistake of the author of the comment. The author mixes up the concepts of "don't like" and "don't agree", these are completely different concepts. You DON'T LIKE the job, but you do it, therefore, you voluntarily AGREED to do it and the reasons for AGREEMENT do not matter. You shouldn't say to yourself "I AM FORCED", you should say "I VOLUNTARILY AGREED". Don't lie to yourself.
A hypocritical creature, pretending to be a "wife", voluntarily, without drugs and coercion, betrays her husband. She voluntarily, without doubts and regrets, but with joy and pleasure fucks with emigrants and her husband's boss. She voluntarily comes home from work every evening and kisses her husband with lips from which emigrants' sperm still drips and does it with pleasure. With these lips, every day, she LIES to her husband about her love. She voluntarily ruins her husband's life, she doesn't give a shit about him, for a hypocritical creature it is more important to maintain the fake status of "wife" and the false imitation of family relations.
She DESERVES the crap she's drowning in and doesn't deserve any help from her husband. He shouldn't save her, he should throw her out of his life, grab some popcorn and watch the hypocritical creature drown in her own shit.
My ideal ending. In the immigrant camp there is a bed, the "wife" is tied to it with her legs behind her head. All the immigrants fuck this traitor in all holes without stopping, Autumn and MC's mother, with the help of various tools, also fuck her. The husband forgot about the hypocritical creature who betrayed him and lives a normal life. This is the reward she deserved.
P.S. My forecast for the story. Next there will be only a quantitative increase in scenes for volume. All the IMPORTANT events HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED. The hypocritical creature has ALREADY cheated on her husband dozens of times and he does nothing. MC is a spineless slug and a rag, with geometrically progressive moronism, burdened by Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and progressive cretinism, THIS WILL NOT CHANGE. The author will show 10, 20, or 100 more betrayals of the "wife", but THIS WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING in qualitative terms, one time is enough for betrayal.
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"She voluntarily comes home from work every evening and kisses her husband with lips from which emigrants' sperm still drips and does it with pleasure. With these lips, every day, she LIES to her husband about her love. She voluntarily ruins her husband's life, she doesn't give a shit about him, for a hypocritical creature it is more important to maintain the fake status of "wife" and the false imitation of family relations."...
What story are you reading? None of this happens AT ALL.
You're interpretation is... like... in need of it's own discussion.
I'm not offended at all. In fact I'm just... without words here.
I want to say I feel like I'm dealing with a bot but all the ones I normally
talk to human waaaaay better. No offense my dude. But wow you're robotically intriguing hahaha
Add to that your view of this story and the events that transpire. Feel the hate in you! hahahahaha
Question. My dude. Honestly. Is your MC fucking all the hot bitches like a boss?
Have you like planted your seed all over this town? Claiming Katherine and sharing Jenaveve?
If the answer is no then what are you doing? Your wife redefines cum dumpster in your imagination hahaha
Covered and leaking everywhere! Holy Crackers that's hot. I need that game your playing!
Cos it ain't A Wife's Tale hahaha
Fuck that's hot!
What story are you reading? None of this happens AT ALL.
You're interpretation is... like... in need of it's own discussion.
I'm not offended at all. In fact I'm just... without words here.
I want to say I feel like I'm dealing with a bot but all the ones I normally
talk to human waaaaay better. No offense my dude. But wow you're robotically intriguing hahaha
Add to that your view of this story and the events that transpire. Feel the hate in you! hahahahaha
Question. My dude. Honestly. Is your MC fucking all the hot bitches like a boss?
Have you like planted your seed all over this town? Claiming Katherine and sharing Jenaveve?
If the answer is no then what are you doing? Your wife redefines cum dumpster in your imagination hahaha
Covered and leaking everywhere! Holy Crackers that's hot. I need that game your playing!
Cos it ain't A Wife's Tale hahaha
Fuck that's hot!
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A man with a stubborn look that he is a man and the center of the universe will never understand a woman. To understand a woman, a girl, you need to try to think like a woman, get into her skin. (a simple rule to catch a criminal you need to think like a criminal) Not many men use this and maybe they don’t know how. that’s why for them there is only black and white. Many don’t even have a family but they talk about it like experts without knowing anything about it, not about family, not about everyday life that can swallow everything up.
It was an exaggeration, perhaps too much, but she does these things. Every day, before the "memorable conversation" with MC, she sucks Samuil. Every evening she returns home. She tells her husband many times that she loves him.
You could say this: after sucking Samuil, the "wife" washes her mouth and, returning home in the evening, kisses her husband with her washed mouth. Or are you saying that after she started sucking Samuil regularly, she stopped kissing her husband? After Samuil's cock, the wife washes her mouth and many times (at different times) says that she loves her husband. This would be more accurate, but in any case, the algorithm of actions is the same: dick (Samuil)-home-husband-love you. In any case, she is cheating on her husband. A cheater ALWAYS has a choice and she makes her choice voluntarily.
Another example of a VOLUNTARY choice, a dialogue with MC's boss (the MC route does not cheat on his wife):
phone_chris "I simply offered you a way to help your husband"
phone_chris "You had sex with me willingly. It was your choice"
phone_wife "Okay, whatever"
phone_wife "Are we done, or is there anything else you want me to do for you?"
phone_chris "We're done"
From this dialogue it is clearly seen that the wife is VOLUNTARILY cheating on her husband.
For those who believe that the wife was "forced" to take drugs, here are two dialogues:
№1.
phone_wife "What time?"
phone_samuil "We usually start around 8 p.m."
phone_wife "Got it"
phone_samuil "Ya wanna give it a try?"
phone_wife "I'll think about it"
phone_wife "I'm not sure yet"
phone_wife "I'll let you know by evening"
phone_samuil "Alright"
phone_samuil "I promise ya'll feel better if ya smoke with us"
phone_samuil "All ur fatigue will be gone {image=chat_wink}"
phone_wife "Okay"
№2.
phone_samuil "Did ya enjoy it?"
phone_wife "It felt strange, to be honest"
phone_wife "It was something I'd never experienced before"
phone_samuil "But it was nice, wasn't it?"
phone_wife "Well, yeah, I guess it was"
From these dialogues it is clear that the wife VOLUNTARILY takes drugs.
Did anyone ever think that the unknown informer for mc might be the wife
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Over the years, I worked in several different environments. People ARE different in personality and lifestyle. BUT, there was always some that liked to brag(talk shit) about specific women in sexual fantasies or what they did to their "bitch" the night before. One place stands out in particular, "Sometimes you can go to the portal-toilet at a certain time and pay to get a BJ from her". Eventually, things took a turn for the worst for the woman and got raped. Knowing how life works, it was believable. Life tends to lead us in directions we never thought possible or we can see the outcome but, refuse to think the inevitable. I guess it depends on whether you can control the situation or not. People can be animals. I suppose we're all animals by nature. But some lose control of their humanity side and just live with animal instincts.
I've been married to the same woman for over half my life. We've had different sexual experiences. Some sharing, and some cheating (that I'm aware of and was ok with). Hell, I flirted with other women and would have went further if the chance occurred and my wife knew that. So, why wouldn't I give her the same understanding? I love her and she loves me. And that love has kept us together all these years. Or, maybe we don't want to go through the trouble of trying to train someone else, HAHA. Either way, I never considered our decisions at the time could end our marriage. We were young and stupid, thinking we could live forever. I'm thankful it never got to that point tho. Grateful, even. Sometimes, I think back and wish we would have experienced more.
It probably is meant to be her.
Iirc the unknown woman started to write the MC shortly after he had the option to have sex with Chris's daughter, i guess it should be like that if the MC cheated on his wife and she found out, but didn't told him about it, and wanted the MC to experience what it feels like to get cheated on, and also just agreed to Chris's request after that.
But even without the MC cheating on his wife the story goes like that and therefore makes no sense why his wife wanted to start ruining the MC's life.
I'll assume most of the story might be about the wife wanting revenge for the MC cheating on her, but with the option to not cheat the storytelling becomes pretty broken. Well, you might get away with explaining later on that the wife was sure about the MC cheating, even when he didn't.
The story might be able to get fixed by explaining certain actions, but the MC will still be an unlikable idiot no matter what.
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You're deflecting again. I asked you if you fucked Katherine and/or Jenaveve (or Helped Henry).
If you are YOU are the cheater. YOU are coming home with another woman on your dick.
You're cheating is what's driving your sex life in to the toilet and destroying your job.
But hey. Men rule right? It's a man's world, yeah?
It doesn't matter if the MC's mouth is covered with another woman's pussy right? That's okay.
Only women are whores. Men are kings... you know I can't. Hahahaha I just can't
Even Tater-tots aren't like that hahahaha And those that are totally miss the point entirely.
Samuil is a rapist, dude. And a serial one. STOP using him as a point of reference.
The story is a broken collection of dialogue left unglued and un pathed. Yes the camp stuff
is it's own thing, but you are excluding yourself and your actions from your judgements.
None of this is okay. But at the end of the day you are treating the wife as the ONLY
antagonist, when she's the PROTAGONIST. A WIFE'S LIFE.
The MC is willfully ignoring his own wife's assaults. Doing nooooothing.
She can't just quit her job forcing her to be there. And he keeps fucking up his job (which isn't true but hey).
Her best friend is a hateful menace (except she's actually not).
And the MC is cheating on his wife with multiple people and refusing to touch her driving her away.
All this bullshit about how much she comes home and blah blah blah or how much she doesn't love him
Where is that coming from? I could follow your lead and keep posting script notes but I would turn this
whole forum in to a wall of text no one wants.
EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENS COULD BE STOPPED OR CHANGED IF THE MC DID SOMETHING. ANYTHING.
So stop blaming her.
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