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Muad_Dib

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It is a little too late now, but I'll chime in as well:

adding the wife POV was a bad idea, part of the fun of this game is wondering what happened, are you a crazy idiot? are you subconsciously wishing these things happened? are you just in denial? now, we will know whats happening as they're happening, which is well and good for the porn, but not so great for the game and the tension. and, tbh, the game is getting too big and too long, which I did mention in an earlier post. I think the game should've wrapped up on the last update, with several things happening differently, and the MC getting destroyed.

I think the format of this game is phenomenal for this style of fetish porn, and it would have been much better to do a collection of short stories, rather than just trying to make the game as big as possible and extort that patreon money. What they got going on now is certainly good for them, but would be a lot better if they were regularly dropping complete games with harsh, good stories.
I agree, adding a wife POV is not the best idea, the atmosphere of the game is lost.
 

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Why Don't you people stop ridiculing the game developer if you don't like it don't play it and stop being jealous if you want a game to go your way make one yourself
I am 100 percent sure that those who say that the game is bad are looking forward to updating the game. They will download it and, even more so, will wait for the free update and will continue to play it. Because the intrigue in the game is just beginning. And playing as the GG’s wife in the first person, and even if we are given the right to choose what she can do, is a good gift for us from the developer.
 

Griev

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Why Don't you people stop ridiculing the game developer if you don't like it don't play it and stop being jealous if you want a game to go your way make one yourself
Being critical about a character isn't ridiculing the Dev. Like not at all, in any way are those things even remotely the same.

I am 100 percent sure that those who say that the game is bad are looking forward to updating the game. They will download it and, even more so, will wait for the free update and will continue to play it.
You can express dislike for an aspect of the storytelling while still enjoying the game overall.
 
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Being critical about a character isn't ridiculing the Dev. Like not at all, in any way are those things even remotely the same.


You can express dislike for an aspect of the storytelling while still enjoying the game overall.
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Being critical about a character isn't ridiculing the Dev. Like not at all, in any way are those things even remotely the same.


You can express dislike for an aspect of the storytelling while still enjoying the game overall.
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Well thinks it this way then since you're thinking one sided the game and all the little gifts they give you that's who adhere to everyone not just your liking
 

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Being critical about a character isn't ridiculing the Dev. Like not at all, in any way are those things even remotely the same.


You can express dislike for an aspect of the storytelling while still enjoying the game overall.

Well thinks it this way then since you're thinking one sided the game and all the little gifts they give you that's who adhere to everyone not just your liking
I have no idea what you said. Not being rude, I honestly can't make out what you typed.
 

thokai

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After seeing the recent posts i'd assume my opinion will be highly appreciated here too. xD
So, after i've got the sarcastic comment out since i couldn't hold it back, let's get down to business.

First of all, NTR isn't something that would turn me on, but i don't judge anyone who's into it. I'd say that puts me in a position where i can rate a story or content without getting my vision blured by love or hate for that kind of kink.
I was asked to take a look into the game's story, so here i am.
After going through the content the game currently holds i could offer some constructive critique alongside some suggestions and ideas of how to make improvements, but since the atmosphere here is already quite tense i won't post the essay/wall of text im still working on after i've finished the game's content. I will keep it short, at least for my standards, which will most likely already be a lot of text for most readers.

The game is so far a kinetic novel where players are given choices that doesn't have meaningful impact on how the story goes on. Good choice for when a dev/author wants to tell an interesting/entertaining story, removes the danger of players missing important content, but also limits the player by exploring the game themself through their own choices and discovering something less obvious on their own.
Getting drunk and having sex with Chris' daughter (sry, couldn't remember her name, the MC only interacted with her 3-4 times for a short time) just changes the MC checking the phonehack app in the evening to him checking the app the next morning without missing anything if he didn't had agreed to go out with her.
It's just a choice between "show Chris' daughter's content" or "skip event", for the secretary it's even less, just a couple of extra conversation lines and a different phone message (either some sexy pics from Jenaveve by accident or some nudes of her from Henry after he drugged her).
The choice the player can man during the Wife's POV will most likely just switch the events between mother and wife who gets fucked first.
The dev mentioned something about the wife finding out about if the MC cheated on her or not, i guess it will just add an extra conversation where the wife gets mad at the MC but the story will stay the same, maybe skips a couple of steps of her corruption content and jumps straight up at Samuil as some kind of revenge for the cheating MC.

edit: i'm also curious about why Chris was in need to get access to the MC's phone when they got drunk at the bar. Having his own phone left at home and than wanting to call a taxi for the MC is a quite obvious excuse for Chris to get the MC's phone into his hands.
He probably installed something similar to the PhoneHack App of the MC for which he also needs to connect the target's phone to his laptop/devise.

The game's theme seems to be "forcably cucked" judging by the MC's reactions, but it falls kind of flat for how the events are written. The MC's inaction after he described the urgency of the situation hurts the story, most of the time he points out the importance of a certain action just to postpone or forget about it in the next scene, or straight up decides to do nothing about and just let things play out as they are, that's pretty much "selfcucking" and doesn't align well with the MC's reactions.

It would work out way better if the MC would actually take action to try to prevent the things he fears of happening but doesn't plays out in the end the way he was hoping for, because he got outwitted, or got teased into an action that plays into what the opponent had planed, or lacked certain infos, or straight up because of unexpected events. (something like how the "mother's sleeping pics"-scene could have been changed that i've explained a couple of postes before)
The "story" is meant to be about NTR where the MC is struggling against it with little to no success in fighting it before he might to have to give in for whatever reasons.

I've put story in "" because NTR games most often lacking an overarching progressing stories that are heading towards something that would change anything about the initial situation the MC was put in.
It's more something like a jouney that developes at some point into endless cheating and gangbang events of various characters in which the MC takes part either as a passive cuck or more active after going down the sissy route or getting somehow feminized.
On that note, the MC's wife would have an easy time drugging the MC secretly since she prepares the breakfest every morning if she would get blackmailed into it or becomes corrupted enough to do it on her own after just a bit convincing talk from Samuil, Autumn or someone that hasn't been introduced yet.

Before ending this post i'd like to point out the Autumn is mentioning early on that she often goes to some parties thrown by some rich guy named Paul, i'd guess that guy is black and somehow affiliated to the migration camp, and most likely also the very same guy Rick recommended to the MC for programming the phone hacking app and is most likely breaking the app on purpose when something is going on the MC shouldn't know about at that point and is "fixing" it when everything is done and the MC no longer can't interfere.
Just a thought.

The game offers a good amount of options and possibilities the dev/author doesn't take advantage of, like the drug that makes women horny and willing but doesn't effect men they have spiked their weed with.
For how often they are smoking they've most likely enough of that stuff piled up in their bodies that their cum would become drug-laced and they could easily drug every woman further by just making them swallow their jizz without taking that extra step of making them smoke after the first couple of times.

...i'd better stop here before boring out everyone even more with what thoughts i had...
 
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I Don't think the pov thing is a bad thing cause it doesn't hurt the storyline in anyway and the story is starting to have multiple different directions things will go and giving the players to many choices would destroy the dynamic of how the story goes but they do have choices at critical juncture that doesn't damage story as a whole from what I've read from some of you who want to control how things go would throw story into chaos and basically like games that are short to the point this game is like you talking the journey with the characters
 
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Muad_Dib

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Why Don't you people stop ridiculing the game developer if you don't like it don't play it and stop being jealous if you want a game to go your way make one yourself
I'm not saying that the game has no advantages at all, I like the style, technical execution, general story, idea, and I like actresses playing the role of a wife and her friend, I saw them for the first time, thanks to the author for that. I still think that the game has a lot of potential that can be unlocked if you spend the time of one update to redo the scenario. From this, personally, the most annoying thing for me is that the potential is not fully revealed.

If you take the latest update of the game, then I liked the scene in the main character's dream, very hot, yes, it was immediately clear that this was a dream, but it's still good. I hope that this will happen in the future, it's a good way to show the breaking of the main character.
 

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I Don't think the pov thing is a bad thing cause it doesn't hurt the storyline in anyway and the story is starting to have multiple different directions things will go and giving the players to many choices would destroy the dynamic of how the story goes but they do have choices at critical juncture that doesn't damage story as a whole from what I've read from some of you who want to control how things go would throw story into chaos and basically like games that are short to the point this game is like you talking the journey with the characters
I guess for some players, that are not happy about the Wife POV scene, the issue isn't the wife's perspective of events, it's about the player has to pick the option directly if the wife is going to cheat on the MC or not.

It would work out a lot better if how the Wife's POV scenes are playing out depends on earlier decisions the player made as the MC.
You could easily make it work for the current content's scene by adding just a decision to an earlier event, when the MC is done going through all the wife's deleted messages and is going to have a talk with her about everything that is going on offer the options 1:"Make the wife take responsibility for bringing in the MC's mother and make her help to keep her safe" and 2:"Forgive her for bringing in the MC's mother, she was blackmailed into it".

Fast forward to the Wife's POV scene: When Samuil asks the wife to smoke with them he adds "if you are not up for it we'll just ask the MC's mom", if the player picked [option 1] during the talk the wife will agree to smoke with Samuil to protect the MC's mother from getting drugged, for [option 2] she will refuse and throws the MC's mother under bus again to save her own sorry ass another time.

Indirect decision making is pretty fun since the dev/author can turn the MC's/players smart choices against the MC by letting them backfire.
 

Muad_Dib

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I guess for some players, that are not happy about the Wife POV scene, the issue isn't the wife's perspective of events, it's about the player has to pick the option directly if the wife is going to cheat on the MC or not.

It would work out a lot better if how the Wife's POV scenes are playing out depends on earlier decisions the player made as the MC.
You could easily make it work for the current content's scene by adding just a decision to an earlier event, when the MC is done going through all the wife's deleted messages and is going to have a talk with her about everything that is going on offer the options 1:"Make the wife take responsibility for bringing in the MC's mother and make her help to keep her safe" and 2:"Forgive her for bringing in the MC's mother, she was blackmailed into it".

Fast forward to the Wife's POV scene: When Samuil asks the wife to smoke with them he adds "if you are not up for it we'll just ask the MC's mom", if the player picked [option 1] during the talk the wife will agree to smoke with Samuil to protect the MC's mother from getting drugged, for [option 2] she will refuse and throws the MC's mother under bus again to save her own sorry ass another time.

Indirect decision making is pretty fun since the dev/author can turn the MC's/players smart choices against the MC by letting them backfire.
By the way, this is an interesting idea, to put a moral choice in front of wife, to avoid problems for yourself (there are already tense relations with husband) or to help the mother of the MC.
And the decisions made by the wife based on the choice of the MC, this is an ideal option.
The best option, as for me, would be if the author of the game slightly modified the scenario. One update to spend on this...
 
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thokai

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By the way, this is an interesting idea, to put a moral choice in front of wife, to avoid problems for yourself (there are already tense relations with husband) or to help the mother of the MC.
And the decisions made by the wife based on the choice of the MC, this is an ideal option.
The best option, as for me, would be if the author of the game slightly modified the scenario. One update to spend on this...
I was also thinking about that slightly rearranging the story would put more sense to the characters reasoning.
The wife should pick up the job at the refugee camp a while after the MC's promotion. It would be her way of trying to take away the MC's boss' leverage over the families only financial income, and no longer have to give in to having sex with Chris whenever he feels like to threaten her with firing the MC.
She had heard about the harassment complaint at the camp, but came to terms that she can deal with these better than with having to cheat on the MC.
That would be her reasoning why she is initially quite adamant about keeping the job.

To now fill the early stage's content gap the dev just have to add some suspiciously friendly neighbors.
I would have suggested a single mother with a 18yo black son (yes, she's secretly a sizequeen and has no idea who the father is and feels a lot more affection for her son than she should have), she tries the groom the wife into hooking up with her son because she can no longer keep up with his growing needs on her own and is now looking for someone she can trust to help her out (she "doesn't want to let the son hook up with girl at his high school since they would only exploit him for his cock and wouldn't give him the love her deserves" <- her reasoning for setting the wife up to become interested in having sex with her son)
But that would probably not go well with Patreon, since even without showing it implies that the mother also has sex with her son.

Other options would be a single mom living with her black lover, and the daughter stays at college.
Or a cuck husband and his wife. Could even start with the MC and his wife agreeing to a threesome with the female neighbor with her husband watching while taking pictures and videos, and develops into the wife gets invited over more often without the MC where she gets exposed more and more to the cuck-couple's black friends.

Also an interesting story would be: in the beginning when Samuil was acting friendly/innocent towards the wife he could point out that she looks somewhat "unsatisfied" (he would phase it more likely "underfucked") and offers her a herbal pill that would incease the MC's dick size and stamina.
Plot twist, it actually does what he promised, therefore the MC uses it a couple of times happily, only to find out that using it more often leads to ED and the MC no longer can get an erection without the pills.
With Samuil/the camp as their only source of supply they could make the wife do things in exchange for pills without the need for blackmailing her into actions by threatening her to tell the MC about her infidelity.

Another option for the player her would be:
The MC not wanting to admit defeat by having to give in to Samuil's demands stands strong with a limp dick.
The wife in need for sex and wanting to help her husband is asking a coworker for suggestions how to help the MC. She recommends the wife a doctor, her boyfriend had a similar issue and that doctor was able to help him in overcoming it.
I'd assume you can already guess what kind of route that might become since i made sure to to phase it "overcomming the issue" and not "curing" or "soving" it.
Yes, the female doctor would be somehow affiliated to the refugee camp and would most likely medicate the MC with testosterone blockers, estrogen pills and prostate massages to help him release some pent up stress.
At some point she will have to leave the city for a while but gave the MC her phone number in case he needs advise, and will send him now and then some "tutorial" videos how he could get release on his own while she's away and not able to help him herself.
Fast forward, Chris fires the MC because he is no longer able to hide his feminine development and starts to distract his employees with some flirty approaches and no longer fits the job of the manager.
Wife finds MC a new job as supply manager in a storehouse, an easy desk job that doesn't require physical work, and also offers some days of homeoffice. Gets promoted to customer manager a while after, just to find out that the storehouse is the main supply for the refugee camp and he has to visit the camp regularly...

...since i've created quite a wall of text here again i'll take break for now. Maybe the dev might find something inspiring in here for current or future content.
 

thokai

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will not be in this game play a wife phone that is the game for you
Nothing like that over there too, just a temporarily full FemMC transformation a couple of times or a slow Sissy route.

There might be a chance here if the dev decides to create content for how the wife starts to mix estrogen pills and Samuil's drug-laced jizz into the MC's breakfast for whatever reason. xD
With increasing the MC's estrogen level the camp's drug that doesn't effect males might start to have an effect on the MC.

edit: Couldn't find any interracial gangbang content for the wife's actress after a quick google search, so i'd recommend a 3 weeks vacation for the wife and her bestie later on to get a breast surgery in secret, but both coming back somewhat bimbofied because the full package was too good of a deal to pass up on it.
With a changed actress for the wife things can escalate further. Samuil talks her into sharing the happiness she and her friends are experiencing with the MC, and the wife starts the breakfast treatment i've suggested above.
If everyone around the MC is fully corrupted and there is nothing new left to tell it most often ends in the MC taking an active part in the fun after some enforced convincing.
 
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Nothing like that over there too, just a temporarily full FemMC transformation a couple of times or a slow Sissy route.

There might be a chance here if the dev decides to create content for how the wife starts to mix estrogen pills and Samuil's drug-laced jizz into the MC's breakfast for whatever reason. xD
With increasing the MC's estrogen level the camp's drug that doesn't effect males might start to have an effect on the MC.

edit: Couldn't find any interracial gangbang content for the wife's actress after a quick google search, so i'd recommend a 3 weeks vacation for the wife and her bestie later on to get a breast surgery in secret, but both coming back somewhat bimbofied because the full package was too good of a deal to pass up on it.
With a changed actress for the wife things can escalate further. Samuil talks her into sharing the happiness she and her friends are experiencing with the MC, and the wife starts the breakfast treatment i've suggested above.
If everyone around the MC is fully corrupted and there is nothing new left to tell it most often ends in the MC taking an active part in the fun after some enforced convincing.
the dev has allready said it not happening and cocks in frocks ruin games thats why people like me dont play games like that
 

thokai

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the dev has allready said it not happening and cocks in frocks ruin games thats why people like me dont play games like that
Okay, wasn't aware of that since it seems like i've missed that comment while going through the pages here to catch up and and thought it's a common thing with NTR games when there is nothing more left to tell since the genre often lacks an overarching story for the MC to work towards a goal to solve the situation he finds himself in at the beginning of the game.
The NTR genre lives from an every trying never succeeding MC that has to give in at some point and it evolves into a cycle of cheating and gangbang parties with no end in sight, i don't think i've ever seen such games finding a propper end.

edit: just remembered how the current content ends.
In the next update the MC will most likely find out that the MC's shop's employees quit because Chris made them a better offer and is now blaming the MC for getting his shop's numbers in the red and will have to demand sex from the MC's wife to compensate him and his business partners. And i'll assume the MC will do nothing about it even after finding out.
A reasonable reaction for the MC would be to push the blame back on Chris and quit the job, and to not even thinking about putting a debt on him after the shit he pulled of just to fuck his wife, every court would agree with the MC.
After the MC quits Chris is contacting the MC's wife and starts guilt talking her, since it's her fault he had put the MC in charge of the new shop and has now to compensate him and his parners fortheir loss and the new shop left without a manager after the MC has quit.
That would be also an easy transition to get the MC the supply manager job at the storehouse i've mentioned in an earlier post (without going through any kind of feminization to get fired) he doesn't know yet that the company is affiliated with the refugee camp. When he later on gets promoted to customer manager he has to visit the camp often just to witness himself how his wife and mother are getting fucked while wanting to visit them during their shifts while he is over there.
 
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