Ren'Py A Wife's Phone [v0.6.5] [Bloody Ink/Scyxar Studios]

[Yuki-x]

I don't see any reason why the game should only be online, even in a public release, except to bring discomfort to the players

Revenue from publicity in the future.
From a sort test I run, the discomfort is happening, from extremely bad coding (at least I hope that it is not intentional)

Downloading and extracting an 102mb zip archive (uncompressed 129mb) in memory, does not justify 3.8gb of ram usage without even starting the game.
And after it started it went over 5.4gb, at the 3rd? event/first wife message (what work outfit to choose)...

Running the public 6.0 web version is a big no no, unless you want to experience, how your system will behave under a buffer overflow attack...

edit:
Bloody Ink the buffer overflow seems to be caused by the first line of "renpy.js"

var Module=typeof Module!="undefined"?Module:{};

and the subsequent if arguments until the first return command.
The webpage tries to find a not defined file and goes to an infinite loop

 

[joker2008]

The game at this point while entertaining on some levels has become a complete mess. I feel like this goes all the way back to vers I think its 4.5 or 4.7 where they said they were going to reign everything and in and started to completely redesign branches. I mean at that point it almost became a completely different game.

Someone mentioned the chastity component and I'm using that because it's a perfect example. If you saved right when that part where valerie finds out about the app that gets completely dropped in 4.5 or 4.7 moving forward. Unless that gets reintroduced way later on. If that's the case that means you're playing through it twice.

And while people try to explain the branches and thats fine. There so many branches i think it became unmanageable. Now you can always add things but when you start taking away things especially in video games you are now talking about losing cohesion in both gameplay and story.

It's kind of like the whole info/stats now being reworked and what effect is that going to have on the game and saves. I get the game is not a final product but these are major overhauls and with the grind in this game it starts to become "is it worth".

I play The Company which is a great game but right now I haven't been playing any of the latest versions because every single one and Westane tells you requires you start a new clean game.

Now they are talking another huge redesign as they are talking changing engines again. What gets lost/cut this time. The game starts to become a totally different game and I think that's what we are starting to see now.

 

[joker2008]

On a lighter note is there a way for mc to get control back in the app or will that actually break things. At no point since the redesign have I seen control offered in the app.

Or is that is only possible now with a new game and the apha path. I figured it was just a value change in renpy.

 

[reaper-kun]

Without option to unrenpy game files this game is dead for me. restart entire game just for few scenes in the end? What could be better?

 

[Chakas]

>good text based game with cheating
>use real life pic

Oh cruel god

 

[exile171]

This 0.6 version is a joke, you have to choose NTR or NOT on the start of the game!!!
if you choose NTR the "CONTROL APP", It is just a phone spy, doesnt control shit...

 

[Alpha Fenix]

the worst problem for me is only one: it has gone from the point of view of the protagonist as a human being to become the cellular. many situations that the protagonist lives are no longer "lived", but seen only through video/ photos.

 

[Umbra_2079]

Actually in his discord he stated there will be an offline version but he has no idea what the new engine is going to be.


On a entirely different note. I was reading through the changelogs and it seems they are now cutting all feminization and sissy content going forward.

"We’d also like to mention that in the next update, it’s likely the fem MC and sissy MC branches won’t be continued, as we’d like to focus on content that hasn’t been updated in a long time (sissy son, the MC’s stepsister, possibly alpha content and Salim content). We’ll conduct a poll, but sissy/fem MC branches won’t be included. Perhaps I’ll create some content for the fem/sissy MC branches, but there won’t be much of it."

I have to say I'm very disappointed as all the Femdom content as far as I know was killed and I was with this game early on and many felt it it was getting way too big. Not sizewise but branchwise. If this is true its just basically become extremely narrower and more linear....shrugs

That just means those two fetishes won't be included in the next update. Don't be dramatic

 

[joker2008]

That just means those two fetishes won't be included in the next update. Don't be dramatic

I'm not trying to be dramatic but there are parts of the story that were just dropped and I don't know if they'll be brought back.
Example of this are:

1)Anissa - Don't know if she's gone or not.
2) There was a branch where the niece feminized MC
3) The whole Valerie/Chastity thing seems to have been cut. Pull up an old save where Valerie finds out MC has had the app which also is where the whole chastity cage issue comes up. Right after that moment you go back to the beginning of the game. That was part of the redesign. Whereas before because I experimented with both paths if you tell Val not to come home MC goes Alpha and she comes back a few days later. It's actually how you lose control in the app. The devs give you a choice keep control or have Val changed so she never cheats.

If you pick chastity Val comes home immediately goes shopping with Jenna and buys a cage. None of that happens now unless again it happens for a second time later in the game. With the redesign they made it sound like after you got through step 48, I think it is, things would pick up kind of where your save left off and that's not the case unless they are basically making you play through the whole game again at which point they should have just made saves incompatible and said exactly what if anything was being dropped.

There is a part of me that's curious if you start a new game if that moment happens.
4) The Val Femdom not even sure if anything was ever added to that branch after somewhere around 4.x.
5) The Christina wife sharing branch.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm leaving out. I had to add Edward back via renpy editor. Supposedly with the redesign once you got past 48 is what I think it is everything was supposed to revert back and you were supposed to get slots back. That didn't happen. Half the people I had in the app were gone.

I wish the game kinda had a guide for the newer version just because there is a lot of confusion out there as to what has been put to "The Cutting Room Floor" and what hasn't.

And now with the new engine, whenever that gets decided, and they did state in the discord they are looking for a new engine.

 

[Umbra_2079]

The game will be publicly available. Making it accessible only via subscription has never been discussed and never will be. However, in the near future, the game will only be available online on the scyxar website.

Not that you have to explain yourself to someone who's not a paying customer, but why? I personally can't see how making the game online will benefit anyone, including you.

 

[Umbra_2079]

I'm not trying to be dramatic but there are parts of the story that were just dropped and I don't know if they'll be brought back.
Example of this are:

1)Anissa - Don't know if she's gone or not.
2) There was a branch where the niece feminized MC
3) The whole Valerie/Chastity thing seems to have been cut. Pull up an old save where Valerie finds out MC has had the app which also is where the whole chastity cage issue comes up. Right after that moment you go back to the beginning of the game. That was part of the redesign.

There is a part of me that's curious if you start a new game if that moment happens.
4) The Val Femdom not even sure if anything was ever added to that branch after somewhere around 4.x.
5) The Christina wife sharing branch.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm leaving out. I had to add Edward back via renpy editor. Supposedly with the redesign once you got past 48 is what I think it is everything was supposed to revert back and you were supposed to get slots back. That didn't happen. Half the people I had in the app were gone.

I wish the game kinda had a guide for the newer version just because there is a lot of confusion out there as to what has been put to "The Cutting Room Floor" and what hasn't.

And now with the new engine, whenever that gets decided, and they did state in the discord they are looking for a new engine.

Paths definitely get removed, added, or changed drastically all the time, and I don't need to have played the older versions to know that. It's actually hard not to notice it from the all-over-the-place plotline.
However, cutting entire fetishes out is something that I don't think this game has done until now. For example, chastity is still in the story, just through a different set of events.

 

[joker2008]

In the discord Bloody brings up profitability and now he has a team. I understand that wholeheartedly and there have been plenty of games I supported on steam from here. Bloody Ink seems like a pretty good guy from the interactions I've had with him in the discord but until they get everything straightened out.

The thing is with the current state of the game. I wouldn't buy it on steam because it seems like there are too many questions in what direction they want to go and I'm not just talking content.

 

[joker2008]

Paths definitely get removed, added, or changed drastically all the time, and I don't need to have played the older versions to know that. It's actually hard not to notice it from the all-over-the-place plotline.
However, cutting entire fetishes out is something that I don't think this game has done until now. For example, chastity is still in the story, just through a different set of events.

Which is why it would have made sense to say saves aren't compatible start from the beginning and this is what has changed. People would have been upset some would have left but it wouldn't be disjointed like it is now.

I give Westane alot of credit (Dev of The Company) he's told people who have been playing the game since day one that with Vers 5.0 there were going to be major rewrites of characters and each would require a restart. For those not willing to restart with each release they were told to wait till Version 6.0. Understand there were a lot of versions between 5 & 6.

 

[thokai]

I'm not trying to be dramatic but there are parts of the story that were just dropped and I don't know if they'll be brought back.
Example of this are:

1)Anissa - Don't know if she's gone or not.
2) There was a branch where the niece feminized MC
3) The whole Valerie/Chastity thing seems to have been cut. Pull up an old save where Valerie finds out MC has had the app which also is where the whole chastity cage issue comes up. Right after that moment you go back to the beginning of the game. That was part of the redesign. Whereas before because I experimented with both paths if you tell Val not to come home MC goes Alpha and she comes back a few days later. It's actually how you lose control in the app. The devs give you a choice keep control or have Val changed so she never cheats.

If you pick chastity Val comes home immediately goes shopping with Jenna and buys a cage. None of that happens now unless again it happens for a second time later in the game. With the redesign they made it sound like after you got through step 48, I think it is, things would pick up kind of where your save left off and that's not the case unless they are basically making you play through the whole game again at which point they should have just made saves incompatible and said exactly what if anything was being dropped.

There is a part of me that's curious if you start a new game if that moment happens.
4) The Val Femdom not even sure if anything was ever added to that branch after somewhere around 4.x.
5) The Christina wife sharing branch.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm leaving out. I had to add Edward back via renpy editor. Supposedly with the redesign once you got past 48 is what I think it is everything was supposed to revert back and you were supposed to get slots back. That didn't happen. Half the people I had in the app were gone.

I wish the game kinda had a guide for the newer version just because there is a lot of confusion out there as to what has been put to "The Cutting Room Floor" and what hasn't.

And now with the new engine, whenever that gets decided, and they did state in the discord they are looking for a new engine.

1) Is part of the "Wife's Job #1" branch in the "NTR on" route, her "romance branch" after helping her was removed because there was no romance.
2) No, there wasn't.
3) After the Wife FemDom branch was removed it's content was merged into the later (now middle) part of the Wife+Jenna branch without her finding out about the app, Jenna suggests to her to put the MC in chastity.
4) Nothing new got added to that branch before it was removed in 0.4.7
5) Last time i playeded (update 5.0 or so) only Christina+Wife+BBC branch worked in the "AddWife NTR on" route, Christina+Wife+MC threesome branch was bugged and didn't progress after the 0.4.7 changes.

The issue with people vanishing from the app only happened when you were loading a pre-0.4.7 savegame into a past 0.4.7 version of the game.

 

[joker2008]

1) Is part of the "Wife's Job #1" branch in the "NTR on" route, her "romance branch" after helping her was removed because there was no romance.
2) No, there wasn't.
3) After the Wife FemDom branch was removed it's content was merged into the later (now middle) part of the Wife+Jenna branch without her finding out about the app, Jenna suggests to her to put the MC in chastity.
4) Nothing new got added to that branch before it was removed in 0.4.7
5) Last time i playeded (update 5.0 or so) only Christina+Wife+BBC branch worked in the "AddWife NTR on" route, Christina+Wife+MC threesome branch was bugged and didn't progress after the 0.4.7 changes.

The issue with people vanishing from the app only happened when you were loading a pre-0.4.7 savegame into a past 0.4.7 version of the game.

Actually originally there was a path where Julia would feminize MC. And in that path it may not have even been Julia by herself. It may have been Julia/Jenna. I don't know I'd have to see if its in 4.7 or which version it was in. Not even sure what versions I still have outside 4.5, 4.7 and 6.0.

Also while Julia's 2nd path still shows up her 1st path seems to be gone.

The Wife Jenna Branch not even sure what that's called anymore. If it's actually called along the lines of Wife Jenna still that's not even listed in my game any longer.

So if you loaded a 4.5 save into 4.7 and saved continued to play and then brought that save forth the vanishing does still happen.

Either way it is extremely convuluted at this point. You may not agree with that but the statement is subjective.

And events are disjointed now. No one is saying that the changes shouldn't have been made. It's their game they can do what they want. I'm just saying it should probably been handled in a cleaner manner.

 

[joker2008]

This branch no longer exists in my 6.0 game. That screenshot is from a 4.5 version.

 

[thokai]

Actually originally there was a path where Julia would feminize MC. And in that path it may not have even been Julia by herself. It may have been Julia/Jenna. I don't know I'd have to see if its in 4.7 or which version it was in. Not even sure what versions I still have outside 4.5, 4.7 and 6.0.

Also while Julia's 2nd path still shows up her 1st path seems to be gone.

The Wife Jenna Branch not even sure what that's called anymore. If it's actually called along the lines of Wife Jenna still that's not even listed in my game any longer.

So if you loaded a 4.5 save into 4.7 and saved continued to play and then brought that save forth the vanishing does still happen.

Either way it is extremely convuluted at this point. You may not agree with that but the statement is subjective.

And events are disjointed now. No one is saying that the changes shouldn't have been made. It's their game they can do what they want. I'm just saying it should probably been handled in a cleaner manner.

I guess you have the Julia #1 branch in mind that lead into the Jenna+MC Feminization branch.

When you save Julia by beating up Paul the Julia #1 is gone and you play the Julia #2 romance branch and the Paul(a) branch.

Your main issue is a long outdated savegame, the Wife+Janna branch doesn't show up if the Wife isn't in the app, or has been removed due the changes to the branching structure.

Yes, an outdated savegame stays an outdated savegame even if you keep playing.

I agree with you, because of all the disconnected story branches the game isn't just convoluted but also confusing because different stories that even contradict each other happen at the same time. It's like reading 6 books at the same time and after each paragraph you roll a dice to find out which book you continue to read next.

 

[joker2008]

I guess you have the Julia #1 branch in mind that lead into the Jenna+MC Feminization branch.

When you save Julia by beating up Paul the Julia #1 is gone and you play the Julia #2 romance branch and the Paul(a) branch.

Your main issue is a long outdated savegame, the Wife+Janna branch doesn't show up if the Wife isn't in the app, or has been removed due the changes to the branching structure.

Yes, an outdated savegame stays an outdated savegame even if you keep playing.

I agree with you, because of all the disconnected story branches the game isn't just convoluted but also confusing because different stories that even contradict each other happen at the same time. It's like reading 6 books at the same time and after each paragraph you roll a dice to find out which book you continue to read next.

This is why to be honest I hadn't touched the game in a while after everything with 4.7 and now with 6.0 I actually feel in some ways its gotten worse not better.

I do agree with you that at this point though its like rolling a 20 sided dice to see what happens in your game next.

 

[Srt2334]

Tell me I'm not the only one who thinks it would be super hot for MC to call Mr Salim daddy on the Sissy branch.

 

[firestorm3]

I don't want to be polemic about the fact that the game would not have an offline version, because the developer has all the rights to do so in order to not have game leaks before the launch date.
That's totally normal. I would do that too.
But there is something i would like to point out.

I've been in the internet for almost my whole life (and it's almost three decades) and there is something that I've learnt from it.
It doesn't matter how big you are, how much money you have or how clever you are.
Internet is based on codes and there is no code in the world that couldn't be cracked/decoded.
There will always be someone more clever than you. No matter what.
It's only a matter of time until someone manages to rip the game from the online version in the site and make it available offline again.

A solution could be to publish the game when it's completed, but in this way you will not have the possibility to have feedbacks which, i think, are essential for you.

Another solution could be having always a new version ready when you publish the older one.
Example:
v0.6 - Publishing today
v0.6.5 - Already finished
v0.7 - Working on.
What are the pro and cons of this method? That you can fix bugs and add new features thanks to feedbacks and polls only after two versions have already been released (thus after 3-4 months), which is not recommended as bugs must be fixed.

So, in the end, it's like a chicken and egg loop