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RustyXXL

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Nov 2, 2017
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This is still a text-based game correct? Did I miss something and writing scenes with NPCs wearing clothes or doing any sort of action now requires AI or are you saying that the AI will create those scenes? If this was a 3D game or something then I would see why it requires more complex AI but this is just text.
Yeah, sorry, you seem to have more of a popcultural influenced Idea of what an AI is.
An AI is a function in your code to control your NPCs in many ways, to make them seem more natural than simple random selection makes possible.
Also This clearly is more than just prewritten story.
He tries to make a text based game that reflects your and the npcs attributes, attitudes etc in text, so it is clearly more than just text.
It seems you are confusing simplicity in graphics with simplicity in game systems.
I also know many 3D games that make do with minimal AI or no AI at all.

Unless he doesn't know what he is doing he should be able to write proper scenes that don't require rewriting or maybe little rewriting. He has some sort of plan so he should know which parts might change in the future and add little comment there so he can just go there and do the little change or write something with future in mind.
Like you don't need fully functioning system for flying a plane in place before you write scenes that involve you walking.
There will be rewrites no matter how good the framework is.
Luckily we have you, who seem to exactly know which kinds of scenes are possible to write at the current time. I mean, otherwise this would be baseless guesswork about what you feel that should be possible.
You really should get in contact with ThaumX and share your wisdom with him.

Didn't he convert from javascript to typescript because typescript is better. I think he even said in a blog post that it indeed it is better to use or something.
Let me quote

TypeScript doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It was built with the JavaScript ecosystem in mind, and a lot of JavaScript exists today. Converting a JavaScript codebase over to TypeScript is, while somewhat tedious, usually not challenging. In this tutorial, we’re going to look at how you might start out. We assume you’ve read enough of the handbook to write new TypeScript code.
So while it may seem like a big change, in reality, the complete official migration tutorial would probably fit on 3 or 4 printed pages at maximum.....that's nothing. It really is comparably a small change, and in no way comparable to migrating to a completly new game engine.
So get your facts straight before blubbering out blind accusations.
 
Sep 15, 2017
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I don't think this game is worth 4.5k usd or whatever that he's making from Patreon. It doesn't seem like he has a good team if it's taken so long to get to this point. My biggest complaint, though, is that he's left all these things open that don't do anything, just says it's under development. I fucking hate that, just don't let the player go there if there's nothing to do, it just wastes time and potentially ruins other gameplay.
 

ZunMadun

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Oct 21, 2017
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I don't think this game is worth 4.5k usd or whatever that he's making from Patreon. It doesn't seem like he has a good team if it's taken so long to get to this point. My biggest complaint, though, is that he's left all these things open that don't do anything, just says it's under development. I fucking hate that, just don't let the player go there if there's nothing to do, it just wastes time and potentially ruins other gameplay.
There is no team. If he starts making 7.5k a month then it becomes possible to hire more people.

So if other people want to see what other things he has done.
<---- His description of himself
Since he doesn't actually post links to his work:
<--- His contribution to Trials in Tainted Space
<--- His mod that he made with another person has 2.2mil downloads where only 371k are unique
<--- His 2nd mod is a clothing replacer 13k downloads only 3k unique ones.
No mention of him in Free Cities and can't find his stories on Literotica

He only has 2 mods on nexus so I don't know what he means by "couple have made it to the top 10 list of adult mods on the Nexus" and since both are fallout mods I don't know what his Elder Scrolls mod is.
 
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There is no team. If he starts making 7.5k a month then it becomes possible to hire more people.

So if other people want to see what other things he has done.
<---- His description of himself
Since he doesn't actually post links to his work:
<--- His contribution to Trials in Tainted Space
<--- His mod that he made with another person has 2.2mil downloads where only 371k are unique
<--- His 2nd mod is a clothing replacer 13k downloads only 3k unique ones.
No mention of him in Free Cities and can't find his stories on Literotica

He only has 2 mods on nexus so I don't know what he means by "couple have made it to the top 10 list of adult mods on the Nexus" and since both are fallout mods I don't know what his Elder Scrolls mod is.
So it's even worse than I thought. It's disgusting making all that money and he's only gotten this far. He's making more money than like, half of America lmao.
 

ustar

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So it's even worse than I thought. It's disgusting making all that money and he's only gotten this far. He's making more money than like, half of America lmao.
In fact he is looking for reliable people who can make ART, but if you would read his blog as I did, you would know that it's not so simple and he wasted some of time for the looking for ART people.
The game is it's alpha stage, so you should not expect complete working game. It's work in progress and everything is documented on his blog and updated regularly.
And also on patreon there are his goals per money:
$500 – reached! per month
Worthwhile Interest
If this goal is met, it'll be obvious that there's enough interest in the game to start putting a lot more work into it. It won't pay the bills, but it'll justify spending nearly all of my free time on the game.
$1,000 – reached! per month
Serious Interest
At this point I can start giving up paying freelance work, working on this project instead. Being able to put more work into the game means faster development. Faster progress means more updates and content for my patrons.
$2,500 – reached! per month
Commissioned Art
With this kind of monthly funding, I can start looking into commissioning artists to create images for the locations in Appletree, and at higher levels NPC face portraits. Portraits for generated NPCs is an expensive proposition, but will really bring characters to life.
$4,379 of $5,000 per month
Character Art!
At this funding level, it's a lot more realistic to get full-body nude art made for for the PC and NPCs that incorporate many (hopefully most) of the character variables. Players will be able to see a picture of a character that shows how they look from basic things like skin tone and breast size, to detailed traits like pregnancy, pubic hair, and arousal.
$4,379 of $7,500 per month
Helping Hands
At this funding level, it becomes possible to start looking into hiring additional help to speed up production. The primary area where this would be useful is allowing ThaumX to focus more on the creative/innovative aspects of development, and less on the ancilliary tasks that don't result in much progress.
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Sep 15, 2017
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In fact he is looking for reliable people who can make ART, but if you would read his blog as I did, you would know that it's not so simple and he wasted some of time for the looking for ART people.
The game is it's alpha stage, so you should not expect complete working game. It's work in progress and everything is documented on his blog and updated regularly.
And also on patreon there are his goals per money:
$500 – reached! per month
Worthwhile Interest
If this goal is met, it'll be obvious that there's enough interest in the game to start putting a lot more work into it. It won't pay the bills, but it'll justify spending nearly all of my free time on the game.
$1,000 – reached! per month
Serious Interest
At this point I can start giving up paying freelance work, working on this project instead. Being able to put more work into the game means faster development. Faster progress means more updates and content for my patrons.
$2,500 – reached! per month
Commissioned Art
With this kind of monthly funding, I can start looking into commissioning artists to create images for the locations in Appletree, and at higher levels NPC face portraits. Portraits for generated NPCs is an expensive proposition, but will really bring characters to life.
$4,379 of $5,000 per month
Character Art!
At this funding level, it's a lot more realistic to get full-body nude art made for for the PC and NPCs that incorporate many (hopefully most) of the character variables. Players will be able to see a picture of a character that shows how they look from basic things like skin tone and breast size, to detailed traits like pregnancy, pubic hair, and arousal.
$4,379 of $7,500 per month
Helping Hands
At this funding level, it becomes possible to start looking into hiring additional help to speed up production. The primary area where this would be useful is allowing ThaumX to focus more on the creative/innovative aspects of development, and less on the ancilliary tasks that don't result in much progress.
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How is this relevant at all, unless you're just trying to add to how bad he is? He's been working for a whole year, he should've already got a few coders to relieve much of his workload. What is better, one working all the time on it, or 5 guise working part time on it?
 

ustar

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How is this relevant at all, unless you're just trying to add to how bad he is? He's been working for a whole year, he should've already got a few coders to relieve much of his workload. What is better, one working all the time on it, or 5 guise working part time on it?
That depends... working with other people involves additional tasks of managing everything and if the coders are not reliable, then everything just fuck and project is ruined.
It was clearly plan to make this project within 3 years from start and like now I see he does what he should to deliver this project to end, so I don't understand your point. If you don't like the game, don't play it. We all here have it for free anyway.
 

RustyXXL

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Nov 2, 2017
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How is this relevant at all, unless you're just trying to add to how bad he is? He's been working for a whole year, he should've already got a few coders to relieve much of his workload. What is better, one working all the time on it, or 5 guise working part time on it?
Most of the time it is much more likely that one guy working full time on a project will make more progress than 5 guys working part time, due to project management overhead, discussing different ideas for direction, everyone feeling less responsible for a certain part of the code etc.
Just throwing more people at a project doesn't automagically make it go faster, especially if you replace full time with part time.
And even if you counted the 5 part time guys without overhead, it would still only equate to 2.5 full time workers, so it would most likely be cheaper and faster to just take 1 additional full time person on the team than 5 part time guys.
 
Sep 15, 2017
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Okay, you guise make fair points. I'm mostly upset in general that people who make porn make so much money. I am a bit peeved that he lets all those places open too, cuz it makes the game longer and tedious to find all the content.
 

RustyXXL

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Nov 2, 2017
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Okay, you guise make fair points. I'm mostly upset in general that people who make porn make so much money. I am a bit peeved that he lets all those places open too, cuz it makes the game longer and tedious to find all the content.
I can understand where you are comming from, and yes, it may seem kinda unfair that you can make that much money with porn games. But it has always been that you can make a lot of money with porn.
15y ago I had a job as a video cutter for a small local porn studio.
It required absolutly no prior knowledge apart from general knowledge on how to use a computer, and I made double to tripple the amount from the start each month that I would have made for comparable entry level jobs, that required no training.
after half a year I was his best man on the job, had a company car, could choose on my own which of the ongoing series I wanted to cut...
It was by far the best paid job I could get at that time, and by far the easiest job. I mean essentially I spent half to three quarters of the day just watching porn, to see if there was anything wrong with the recording, sometimes correcting the colors or blurring out bystanders or reframing to cut out cables etc. Or surfing the web while waiting for the finished scenes to render out.
Granted, I didn't make 4k a month, but then again, my job was much, much easier than making a game, and I still made like 40% of that, for 10% of the workload.

Edit: The point of the post...comming from that angle 4k a month really doesn't look like that much, especially if you consider that he also wants to commission art from that money.
 
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I can understand where you are comming from, and yes, it may seem kinda unfair that you can make that much money with porn games. But it has always been that you can make a lot of money with porn.
15y ago I had a job as a video cutter for a small local porn studio.
It required absolutly no prior knowledge apart from general knowledge on how to use a computer, and I made double to tripple the amount from the start each month that I would have made for comparable entry level jobs, that required no training.
after half a year I was his best man on the job, had a company car, could choose on my own which of the ongoing series I wanted to cut...
It was by far the best paid job I could get at that time, and by far the easiest job. I mean essentially I spent half to three quarters of the day just watching porn, to see if there was anything wrong with the recording, sometimes correcting the colors or blurring out bystanders or reframing to cut out cables etc. Or surfing the web while waiting for the finished scenes to render out.
Granted, I didn't make 4k a month, but then again, my job was much, much easier than making a game, and I still made like 40% of that, for 10% of the workload.

Edit: The point of the post...comming from that angle 4k a month really doesn't look like that much, especially if you consider that he also wants to commission art from that money.
Well, I don't think it's unfair cuz anything that makes money makes money by demand, I think it's bad because I don't think porn should be as prevalent as it is. To your post, he's probably got A LOT of money in the bank if he hasn't made commissions yet and just lived at home and not done too many weekend splurging. He can easily commission art for his whole game on 5000 usd imo, or should be anyways.
 

RustyXXL

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I didn't say, that he couldn't afford to commision art from that money. I'm just saying it isn't such a large amount that he gets, even though it might seem a lot, compared to what is usual for the gaming industry or the porn industry, even though it looks like a lot and is a lot compared to other industries.
 

LabosCrabos

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Jul 9, 2018
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he's coming prepared, its a great idea, if you check the disscussion thread a few, devlopers are doing that, soul eater is just preparing us, for the game. SO NEXT Time dont swear, just ask nicely. Okay

Also @Souleater is there a pateron or something to the developer.
I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but how is coming with "nothing" somehow = "coming prepared"?
I don't understand the logic in saying that. Is there something I'm missing or being confused about? Maybe. I'm really happy for the developer and everything, this seems very cool! 100% being positive and friendly here (text is diffuclt to show tone of voice on internet) :)
 

Avaron1974

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I remember hearing about this on TFGamesSite and a few other places a year ago, people were buzzed for it. Nobody has mentioned it for months now.

There is coming prepared and there is going so slow people forget your game exists.
 

ustar

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Dec 29, 2017
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so is there ANYTHING to do in this atm post intro?
Not much. There is added something with each realease if you are curious, but since the game is in alpha process of building behind scene things, we have to wait another year for something playable or 2 years if you are into complete game. Alpha is for testing purposes, building and fixing, not for playing.
 

Korder

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The development team behind AW has effectively doubled in size since ThaumX has dedicated the money he earns through patreon to hire an additional developer full time. Good news for all those worrying about slow progress and milking. The guy he's hired is a programmer who will primarily work with coding while ThaumX will work more on writing, meaning there'll be less art comissions for now (as that was what ThaumX spent the patreon money on up until now) and more focus on, well, developing.

ThaumX made a big blog post about this four days ago, but I don't think anyone has mentioned it here.
 

smith66

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No offence but I gotta ask, Is this turning Into Newlife 2.0? cuz it sure looks like it will.
How do you mean? Because I don't see it. In AW you can already chose different places to live and work, something Newlife doesn't offer. On the other hand Newlife is playable where as AW only goes as far as your first day of work. Also AW is set to cover sexual situations that Newlife will never cover although those have yet to be implemented. If your asking do they share some base concepts then yes they do but that's about it.
 

LabosCrabos

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This game is amazing and I love it and the person who makes it. I can't believe someone made such deep and complex game that's THIS fun. I think this game has the potential to be superior to most porn games out there. 10/10 for potential. I'm shocked!
 
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