VN Ren'Py According To Sofia [v0.02.10] [GrimaGrima]

[Bestigger]

I've got a question for players who like games in the genre: Do you play all the paths? That is, in this game you can be an active or a passive cuck - do you play both to see scene variations of each flavor? I'm just kind of wondering if games like this are actually wasting time and assets on paths that no one likes. Or put another way, should it be split into two VNs, each based on the specific path so player choose between games, not between actions? Does that make sense? I'm writing a game with four main paths through it, and I'm starting to wonder if it would be better as four separate VNs. So here is a way to put the question even more clearly - does the option to take a specific path make the game better, even if you don't explore it?

Personally, I'm not at all into the humiliation stuff that's central to hardcore cuckoldry. I don't really self insert as any of the characters, definitely not the male leads who are often overwhelmingly pathetic or plain stupid. I just enjoy the "naughtiness" aspect of it which is best done in these NTR games because they have to pay a wee bit more attention to the characterization and build up. To me it's like a version of more narrative based corruption.

So I usually avoid the active cuck stuff because it tends to focus more on the male rather than the FMC and reading their thought process is a huge boner killer, just grosses me out.

 

[Shiemi Moriyama]

The way the characters look at the main character is just... downright creepy. This level of staring and intense attention from the actors borders on Japanese horror films like "The Ring" or "The Grudge." There's no logic, meaning, or story; the main character simply stares at his girlfriend from around the corner, wishing everyone would fuck her ass, and everyone stares at him the same way a dog stares at its owner.

 

[Shiemi Moriyama]

People, let's give more reviews for the game, from 1 star to 5.

 

[grima_grima]

I really like the concept, hope the dev keeps it going all throughout the game's lifetime

Yep, that's the idea

 

[grima_grima]

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Great to see the update.

Thanks, my friend

 

[grima_grima]

Does the husband only experience a one way street of her being a slut or does he get equal times of fun with other women?

As of now, Bob is 100% loyal to Sofia.

 

[TonyMurray]

People who don't like NTR and Cheating also don't like females who parade themselves around and constantly put themselves in situations where they have to be white knighted. This game is meant for a certain niche. "dumb bimbo needs to be watched constantly or she will be NTR'd" isn't as fun as you'd think. You should add the NTR tag and let our filters work as intended.

Okay, I played four saves (one for each route) earlier, so there's a chance I have them mixed up in my memory of course, but... on the loyal route, I had a choice at the very first instance for Sofia to tell the guys "no". After that, I don't remember anything happening that required her to be saved, she just "saved" herself when required by saying "I already told you to watch it" or "I'm not so fragile that I'm going to let you take advantage of me while you help me", etc.

So unless I'm misremembering it, there was a single choice, that was Sofia's (not the MMC's) and after that it respected the choice and required no further input. There was no "white knighting" involved. Did I somehow completely forget a bunch of choices needed here to stop Sofia from "being NTR'd", or are you (several people, not just you who I specifically quoted) overreacting?

I've got a question for players who like games in the genre: Do you play all the paths? That is, in this game you can be an active or a passive cuck - do you play both to see scene variations of each flavor? I'm just kind of wondering if games like this are actually wasting time and assets on paths that no one likes. Or put another way, should it be split into two VNs, each based on the specific path so player choose between games, not between actions? Does that make sense? I'm writing a game with four main paths through it, and I'm starting to wonder if it would be better as four separate VNs. So here is a way to put the question even more clearly - does the option to take a specific path make the game better, even if you don't explore it?

If I like a game enough, I play all available paths. Obviously within that, I will have paths that I prefer, and I generally play those first, then play the others on "skip" so I don't have to see the same scenes and just play out the scenes that are unique to that path and/or the choices that come up. I'd say it's definitely better to have paths rather than split between games, and I'm not a dev, but I would imagine that's also easier for the dev, because there's going to be some overlap regardless of which path is chosen. If you have four paths, and you release it as four separate games, you might end up with several times the total filesize, but still with a lot of duplication between the four games.

 

[grima_grima]

Okay, I played four saves (one for each route) earlier, so there's a chance I have them mixed up in my memory of course, but... on the loyal route, I had a choice at the very first instance for Sofia to tell the guys "no". After that, I don't remember anything happening that required her to be saved, she just "saved" herself when required by saying "I already told you to watch it" or "I'm not so fragile that I'm going to let you take advantage of me while you help me", etc.

So unless I'm misremembering it, there was a single choice, that was Sofia's (not the MMC's) and after that it respected the choice and required no further input. There was no "white knighting" involved. Did I somehow completely forget a bunch of choices needed here to stop Sofia from "being NTR'd", or are you (several people, not just you who I specifically quoted) overreacting?

If I like a game enough, I play all available paths. Obviously within that, I will have paths that I prefer, and I generally play those first, then play the others on "skip" so I don't have to see the same scenes and just play out the scenes that are unique to that path and/or the choices that come up. I'd say it's definitely better to have paths rather than split between games, and I'm not a dev, but I would imagine that's also easier for the dev, because there's going to be some overlap regardless of which path is chosen. If you have four paths, and you release it as four separate games, you might end up with several times the total filesize, but still with a lot of duplication between the four games.

You're 100% right. My goal is not letting the routes to cross paths... If you chose the Loyal path, no NTR will happen... If you chose the Oblivious path, Bob will not know what Sofia does with his friends (in the future, Bob may find out and the player will have to decide what happens next...)... And in the Cuck route, that's "free for all" (to Sofia, of course).

Cheers!

 

[TonyMurray]

You're 100% right. My goal is not letting the routes to cross paths... If you chose the Loyal path, no NTR will happen... If you chose the Oblivious path, Bob will not know what Sofia does with his friends (in the future, Bob may find out and the player will have to decide what happens next...)... And in the Cuck route, that's "free for all" (to Sofia, of course).

Cheers!

Cheers! I thought that was the case, but I guess moaners gotta moan.

In terms of the update, I thought it was a decent scene setter - I played from the start as I didn't go back to the first chapter when the choices were implemented. I like the choices though, I think they're really straightforward and hard to miss the path you're looking for (though I play with the choice descriptor, which helps, there is still a path notification option so you don't even need that if you scroll back to the choice if you end up picking the wrong one!).

I say scene setter though because it's still early days. There are some hot scenes already, but it needs another update or two to really kick off (which is natural). It does look like it could be kicking up a gear in the next update though, and if not, it probably won't be much longer than that.

 

[Daniele69]

This is the Italian translation of
According To Sofia [v0.02.10] [GrimaGrima]

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This translation is "unofficial" and "made by a fan"
extract the .rar file and move "game" to the game where the .exe file resides overwrite if required .

Download​

 

[grima_grima]

This is the Italian translation of
According To Sofia [v0.02.10] [GrimaGrima]

*****************************************************************************
This translation is "unofficial" and "made by a fan"
extract the .rar file and move "game" to the game where the .exe file resides overwrite if required .

Download​

Thanks, Daniele69 !

 

[Mwaysinful]

Yes! girlfriend is very hot!!

 

[CallMeHuff]

Okay, I played four saves (one for each route) earlier, so there's a chance I have them mixed up in my memory of course, but... on the loyal route, I had a choice at the very first instance for Sofia to tell the guys "no". After that, I don't remember anything happening that required her to be saved, she just "saved" herself when required by saying "I already told you to watch it" or "I'm not so fragile that I'm going to let you take advantage of me while you help me", etc.

So unless I'm misremembering it, there was a single choice, that was Sofia's (not the MMC's) and after that it respected the choice and required no further input. There was no "white knighting" involved. Did I somehow completely forget a bunch of choices needed here to stop Sofia from "being NTR'd", or are you (several people, not just you who I specifically quoted) overreacting?

After picking the Loyal route, there are times when the narrator mentions her enjoyment of her ass being slapped by Chris. Even if you don't pick a cuck route, you still have cuck features. "It's not your fault for them slapping your ass, you're just wearing slutty clothes and bending over." "You don't usually last long with Sofia." "Promise me you'll never change. "I bought pajamas with an ass flap, but it opened up, and the shopkeeper saw it and slapped my ass. Don't be mad, please, I got a discount." Later on, Mark comes over, and the ass flap falls, giving him a complete show. Old neighbor touches her tits and ass, but it's okay cause she yelled for him not to!! Game night with your friends, but without you, they see her as an object and catch all the best angles of her, BUT DON'T WORRY, SHE SAID TO STOP. The game is just constant, "OOPSIES, don't be mad." The dev did the right thing in adding the tag, but my "moans" are real concerns, and it's better to add the tag to just have fewer people like me show up in the comments. I think the gf is a really hot character model, but there's literally no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content. I notice that the developer usually writes female protagonists, and it's evident. All good though, I wish the dev luck and success.

 

[grima_grima]

After picking the Loyal route, there are times when the narrator mentions her enjoyment of her ass being slapped by Chris. Even if you don't pick a cuck route, you still have cuck features. "It's not your fault for them slapping your ass, you're just wearing slutty clothes and bending over." "You don't usually last long with Sofia." "Promise me you'll never change. "I bought pajamas with an ass flap, but it opened up, and the shopkeeper saw it and slapped my ass. Don't be mad, please, I got a discount." Later on, Mark comes over, and the ass flap falls, giving him a complete show. Old neighbor touches her tits and ass, but it's okay cause she yelled for him not to!! Game night with your friends, but without you, they see her as an object and catch all the best angles of her, BUT DON'T WORRY, SHE SAID TO STOP. The game is just constant, "OOPSIES, don't be mad." The dev did the right thing in adding the tag, but my "moans" are real concerns, and it's better to add the tag to just have fewer people like me show up in the comments. I think the gf is a really hot character model, but there's literally no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content. I notice that the developer usually writes female protagonists, and it's evident. All good though, I wish the dev luck and success.

I understand and respect your concerns. I will review the Loyal route to see if I have missed some dialogue from other routes to make sure it's as smooth as possible. And I'm planning to add more content for that path in the future, but to your point, even in the Loyal path, Sofia will not become a saint... She'll still wear short clothes and may get herself in some "gray zones"...

Cheers!

 

[TonyMurray]

After picking the Loyal route, there are times when the narrator mentions her enjoyment of her ass being slapped by Chris. Even if you don't pick a cuck route, you still have cuck features. "It's not your fault for them slapping your ass, you're just wearing slutty clothes and bending over." "You don't usually last long with Sofia." "Promise me you'll never change. "I bought pajamas with an ass flap, but it opened up, and the shopkeeper saw it and slapped my ass. Don't be mad, please, I got a discount." Later on, Mark comes over, and the ass flap falls, giving him a complete show. Old neighbor touches her tits and ass, but it's okay cause she yelled for him not to!! Game night with your friends, but without you, they see her as an object and catch all the best angles of her, BUT DON'T WORRY, SHE SAID TO STOP. The game is just constant, "OOPSIES, don't be mad." The dev did the right thing in adding the tag, but my "moans" are real concerns, and it's better to add the tag to just have fewer people like me show up in the comments. I think the gf is a really hot character model, but there's literally no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content. I notice that the developer usually writes female protagonists, and it's evident. All good though, I wish the dev luck and success.

Two points to note here: one, the NTR tag is needed if there's NTR, there's no argument about that. It doesn't mean that there's NTR on every path though. Just having it on one path is enough for the tag to be needed, and it can still have any number of other paths that don't feature NTR. For instance, here, there's no NTR on the loyal path, else it wouldn't be the loyal path. Having someone look covetously at your partner does not equal NTR. Having someone try to touch your partner and her stopping him does not equal NTR.

The second point is kind of covered at the end of the above, actually. As the dev confirmed in an earlier post, if you choose the option for Sofia to shoot them down at the first opportunity, even though they try again during truth or dare, Sofia reaffirms her stance and doesn't allow them to touch her. I don't know where you get "there's no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content", when there's a loyal path that excludes both of those.

To be honest, having the line saying she "liked it when you slapped her ass, just like when Chris did it" (and maybe the shop talk about the guy patting her ass) sounds like it could be a bug (grima_grima?), because when Chris slapped her, on the loyal route there was no indication of her having enjoyed it at all. The other couple of examples you give are not NTR/cuck lines of dialogue at all, they're maybe suggestive, but nothing more (and a couple of your examples aren't even that). Even on a loyal route, an FMC can be body confident and open to compliments etc., it's about staying loyal though, even if others are trying to tempt her. A loyal route doesn't mean that no other men will find her attractive and try to tempt her.

 

[CallMeHuff]

Two points to note here: one, the NTR tag is needed if there's NTR, there's no argument about that. It doesn't mean that there's NTR on every path though. Just having it on one path is enough for the tag to be needed, and it can still have any number of other paths that don't feature NTR. For instance, here, there's no NTR on the loyal path, else it wouldn't be the loyal path. Having someone look covetously at your partner does not equal NTR. Having someone try to touch your partner and her stopping him does not equal NTR.

The second point is kind of covered at the end of the above, actually. As the dev confirmed in an earlier post, if you choose the option for Sofia to shoot them down at the first opportunity, even though they try again during truth or dare, Sofia reaffirms her stance and doesn't allow them to touch her. I don't know where you get "there's no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content", when there's a loyal path that excludes both of those.

To be honest, having the line saying she "liked it when you slapped her ass, just like when Chris did it" (and maybe the shop talk about the guy patting her ass) sounds like it could be a bug (grima_grima?), because when Chris slapped her, on the loyal route there was no indication of her having enjoyed it at all. The other couple of examples you give are not NTR/cuck lines of dialogue at all, they're maybe suggestive, but nothing more (and a couple of your examples aren't even that). Even on a loyal route, an FMC can be body confident and open to compliments etc., it's about staying loyal though, even if others are trying to tempt her. A loyal route doesn't mean that no other men will find her attractive and try to tempt her.

We can agree to disagree. If my girl were walking around with assless pajamas with a friend around, I would leave her, or at the very least, question our relationship. Also, the NTR tag was added after my comments or I would have never been here in the first place tbh.

• Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]

Whether consensual or not, the feeling is there. If not fully NTR, it is approaching the line and teasing to cross it constantly. I wouldn't even call it a "loyalty" route, more like a "test the boundaries in every scene" route. I'm done talking about this, though. We have different views, it's whatever.

 

[grima_grima]

Two points to note here: one, the NTR tag is needed if there's NTR, there's no argument about that. It doesn't mean that there's NTR on every path though. Just having it on one path is enough for the tag to be needed, and it can still have any number of other paths that don't feature NTR. For instance, here, there's no NTR on the loyal path, else it wouldn't be the loyal path. Having someone look covetously at your partner does not equal NTR. Having someone try to touch your partner and her stopping him does not equal NTR.

The second point is kind of covered at the end of the above, actually. As the dev confirmed in an earlier post, if you choose the option for Sofia to shoot them down at the first opportunity, even though they try again during truth or dare, Sofia reaffirms her stance and doesn't allow them to touch her. I don't know where you get "there's no reason to play this if you don't like cuck or NTR content", when there's a loyal path that excludes both of those.

To be honest, having the line saying she "liked it when you slapped her ass, just like when Chris did it" (and maybe the shop talk about the guy patting her ass) sounds like it could be a bug (grima_grima?), because when Chris slapped her, on the loyal route there was no indication of her having enjoyed it at all. The other couple of examples you give are not NTR/cuck lines of dialogue at all, they're maybe suggestive, but nothing more (and a couple of your examples aren't even that). Even on a loyal route, an FMC can be body confident and open to compliments etc., it's about staying loyal though, even if others are trying to tempt her. A loyal route doesn't mean that no other men will find her attractive and try to tempt her.

Yeap, it's definitely a bug:

In the Loyal route, this line should be different... I'll fix this on the next release (Chapter 3 Part 1).

And I'll also rework the "Pajama store guy" dialogue on the Loyal path, so Sofia also gives him a hard time when he taps her butt.

 

[grima_grima]

Also, the NTR tag was added after my comments or I would have never been here in the first place tbh.

The NTR tag was proposed by me when I posted the game here (as we can see in the Genre block), but the Mods may have not agreed with it on the first release of the game (chapter 1). I'm not trying to trick anyone here, the game was primarily NTR/Cheating, but after some feedback I decided to add a Loyal route (and I want that route to be NTR free).

 

[CallMeHuff]

The NTR tag was proposed by me when I posted the game here (as we can see in the Genre block), but the Mods may have not agreed with it on the first release of the game (chapter 1). I'm not trying to trick anyone here, the game was primarily NTR/Cheating, but after some feedback I decided to add a Loyal route (and I want that route to be NTR free).

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Completely understand bro, I'm really not trying to make you out as a bad person. I'm also not trying to have you change things. It's simply not for me and many others who see through the same lens as me. I'm honestly trying to help because I can see it being a problem for people.

 

[grima_grima]

Completely understand bro, I'm really not trying to make you out as a bad person. I'm also not trying to have you change things. It's simply not for me and many others who see through the same lens as me. I'm honestly trying to help because I can see it being a problem for people.

Yep, and I appreciate that. The dialog bug passed my quality control process