VN Ren'Py Actual Roommates 2 - Sorority Crash [Ch.1 Public] [HanakoXVN]

[rasalghul67]

Depends on if Pumpkin finds herself in a situation that would require the help of an army of moms (or girls that are very close friends to her mom but never openly acknowledged as moms)

I'm going to play through Chapter 1 again, it was so much fun, but I could swear I saw Pumpkin make a reference to a couple of moms and a whole lot of aunts.

 

[Avaron1974]

I'm going to play through Chapter 1 again, it was so much fun, but I could swear I saw Pumpkin make a reference to a couple of moms and a whole lot of aunts.

I saw 3 references to her having way too many moms and also mentions Aunt Janice at the end of the update.

 

[FatGiant]

I saw 3 references to her having way too many moms and also mentions Aunt Janice at the end of the update.

I am sorry for this, but, I don't subscribe to the concept of "too many moms". There's no such thing. If they are HOT then, it's simply an impossibility.

 

[e6mill]

I am sorry for this, but, I don't subscribe to the concept of "too many moms". There's no such thing. If they are HOT then, it's simply an impossibility.

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I prefer hot women to NOT be my mom....

 

[Rehwyn]

I'm going to play through Chapter 1 again, it was so much fun, but I could swear I saw Pumpkin make a reference to a couple of moms and a whole lot of aunts.

I saw 3 references to her having way too many moms and also mentions Aunt Janice at the end of the update.

Going to refer back to this:

I guess I should clarify it here too since people have been speculating:

THERE WAS NO ONE CANON ENDING FOR AR1!

Any ending that had at least one of the Fujikawa sisters+any other can lead into AR2.
AR2's MC will never specify how many moms she has.

But essentially, sounds like it'll be kept intentionally vague as to how many moms Valerie has so that as many AR endings as possible are canon, other than at least one of them is a Fujikawa sister and there was at least one other. So sounds like 3+ moms.

 

[FatGiant]

I prefer hot women to NOT be my mom....

Well, Oedipus wants to have a word with ya...

 

[Rehwyn]

Well, Oedipus wants to have a word with ya...

Gonna be tough for Oedipus to find him without his eyes.

 

[FatGiant]

Gonna be tough for Oedipus to find him without his eyes.

Shhhh, it's the thought that counts...

 

[drh64]

Loved the first game great story can't wait for the next update for this game, it's great to see a pure lesbian game all the girls are beautiful just like in the first game.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

Others already answered some of your questions (seriously guys, be nice ffs, how the hell would they even begin searching some of this stuff???), so to answer the rest:


It's been 8 years since the Fujikawa Tower assault. AR1 started in 2024, AR2 is in 2032 ("Pumpkin" was adopted at 12, 2 years after the Fujikawa Tower assault).


Every LI's name is a wrestling reference.

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Depends on if Pumpkin finds herself in a situation that would require the help of an army of moms (or girls that are very close friends to her mom but never openly acknowledged as moms)


Still working on it, still can't find a way to make it good



How does that song go again? "Scotty doesn't know that Fiona and me..."
I won't say anything else, only that it may not be what you expect knowing the reference.



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I really enjoyed the start of this game, it brings back the same fun vibe, humor, and light-hearted energy that made the first one so enjoyable. ^^

That said, one thing stood out: why be so vague about the moms’ names, especially Violet? I understand wanting to avoid alienating players who preferred different endings, but the way it's handled feels needlessly roundabout and a bit overcomplicated.

It might’ve been simpler to commit to a broad default ending where this roommates’ harem is canon; whether that includes both, one, or neither of the Fujikawa sisters, just saying. While the game tries to remain neutral about AR1’s conclusion, these hints and references clearly suggest multiple moms, which still strongly supports the harem scenario, among others.

It’s not a major issue per se, but that extra caution and ambiguity felt a little excessive. Plus, if the game keeps referencing more characters or situations from the first one, maintaining this vagueness could quickly become a hassle. Just putting my two cents in since it caught my attention a bit, but overall, I found the experience pretty fun.

 

[Rehwyn]

I really enjoyed the start of this game, it brings back the same fun vibe, humor, and light-hearted energy that made the first one so enjoyable. ^^

That said, one thing stood out: why be so vague about the moms’ names, especially Violet? I understand wanting to avoid alienating players who preferred different endings, but the way it's handled feels needlessly roundabout and a bit overcomplicated.

It might’ve been simpler to commit to a broad default ending where this roommates’ harem is canon; whether that includes both, one, or neither of the Fujikawa sisters, just saying. While the game tries to remain neutral about AR1’s conclusion, these hints and references clearly suggest multiple moms, which still strongly supports the harem scenario, among others.

It’s not a major issue per se, but that extra caution and ambiguity felt a little excessive. Plus, if the game keeps referencing more characters or situations from the first one, maintaining this vagueness could quickly become a hassle. Just putting my two cents in since it caught my attention a bit, but overall, I found the experience pretty fun.

The vagueness about Violet is likely intentional for now because it'll probably be a plot point later on when people learn that Val is the daughter of the woman responsible for getting the last sorority shut down. Something Val probably doesn't even know.

Val also is likely being vague because Violet and either of the Fujikawa sisters are pretty notable people. Not every child wants the attention from having pseudo-famous parents when they're starting to find their independence.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

The vagueness about Violet is likely intentional for now because it'll probably be a plot point later on when people learn that Val is the daughter of the woman responsible for getting the last sorority shut down. Something Val probably doesn't even know.

Val also is likely being vague because Violet and either of the Fujikawa sisters are pretty notable people. Not every child wants the attention from having pseudo-famous parents when they're starting to find their independence.

It doesn’t make sense for the dev to stay vague about Violet’s name, especially since we already know what she did on this campus in the past. This game is a direct sequel to the previous one, so it’s not a mystery! As for Val, maybe she’s unaware of Violet’s eventful student life, but we as players know it. ^^ So your argument doesn’t hold up.

I wasn’t just talking about Violet, but also other important female characters from the first game, like the roommates and the Fujikawa sisters. It’s true that Val doesn’t mention their family name, but that can be explained by a few reasons. First, there are complicated relationships with the company and this family, and maybe also a need for anonymity to keep things discreet. Second, there’s some uncertainty around the Fujikawa sisters themselves.

What you’re missing is that, from a meta perspective, the game can’t say which Fujikawa sister, if any, is really part of Val’s life. That’s because the dev chose not to confirm a single official ending.

So, since we don’t clearly know which ending or events from the first game the sequel follows, the information we get feels vague, incomplete, and sometimes contradictory. The vagueness mostly comes from all that.

 

[Rehwyn]

It doesn’t make sense for the dev to stay vague about Violet’s name, especially since we already know what she did on this campus in the past. This game is a direct sequel to the previous one, so it’s not a mystery! As for Val, maybe she’s unaware of Violet’s eventful student life, but we as players know it. ^^ So your argument doesn’t hold up.

I was referring to the fact that Val hasn't mentioned any of her mothers' names to other girls yet. So her statements so far have been vague, probably by design. The other girls will likely find out about Violet in the future, and that's the plot point I was referring to. Violet is the only mother that is canon in all the endings, so she's fair game to name drop later. Since we know about Violet and the other girls don't, it creates a case of dramatic irony and adds dramatic tension. Similarly, if Val doesn't know about her mom's history with the sorority, that's another source of dramatic irony.

I wasn’t just talking about Violet, but also other important female characters from the first game, like the roommates and the Fujikawa sisters. It’s true that Val doesn’t mention their family name, but that can be explained by a few reasons. First, there are complicated relationships with the company and this family. Second, there’s some uncertainty around the Fujikawa sisters themselves.

What you’re missing is that, from a meta perspective, the game can’t say which Fujikawa sister, if any, is really part of Val’s life. That’s because the dev chose not to confirm a single official ending.

So, since we don’t clearly know which ending or events from the first game the sequel follows, the information we get feels vague, incomplete, and sometimes contradictory. The vagueness mostly comes from all that.

I understand that (I actually explained it in a post earlier on this page). The dev intentionally made it so any ending with either Fujikawa sister plus at least one more LI is "canon" and has specifically said that Val will never explicitly state how many mother's she has. Similarly, I'm sure it'll never be clarified which Fujikawa sister (or both) are a mom.

But Val has also been intentionally vague in game outside the meta-reason, likely partially for the reason I mention. That's what I was referring to.

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

I was referring to the fact that Val hasn't mentioned any of her mothers' names to other girls yet. So her statements so far have been vague, probably by design. The other girls will likely find out about Violet in the future, and that's the plot point I was referring to. Violet is the only mother that is canon in all the endings, so she's fair game to name drop later. Since we know about Violet and the other girls don't, it creates a case of dramatic irony and adds dramatic tension. Similarly, if Val doesn't know about her mom's history with the sorority, that's another source of dramatic irony.

I understand that (I actually explained it in a post earlier on this page). The dev intentionally made it so any ending with either Fujikawa sister plus at least one more LI is "canon" and has specifically said that Val will never explicitly state how many mother's she has. Similarly, I'm sure it'll never be clarified which Fujikawa sister (or both) are a mom.

But Val has also been intentionally vague in game outside the meta-reason, likely partially for the reason I mention. That's what I was referring to.

Even if Violet’s name was left out to create some suspense or dramatic tension, as you said, which honestly doesn’t seem very useful to me since there’s not really any mystery. Her name is never mentioned, not even when she talks to Valerie. That’s what really struck me as odd: neither she nor any of the girls from the previous game are mentioned at all. And honestly, without all this meta stuff, things would be a lot simpler.

 

[Rehwyn]

Even if Violet’s name was left out to create some suspense or dramatic tension, as you said, which honestly doesn’t seem very useful to me since there’s not really any mystery. Her name is never mentioned, not even when she talks to Valerie. That’s what really struck me as odd: neither she nor any of the girls from the previous game are mentioned at all. And honestly, without all this meta stuff, things would be a lot simpler.

It's not a mystery to the readers, but the dramatic irony exists because we know something the ASS girls and maybe Val doesn't and are left wondering how they will react if/when they find out. Well they take it negatively that Val's mom was responsible for the last house burning down? If Val didn't know, will she be upset that her mom might have caused friction with her new friends? Will the school administrator try to get Val kicked out? Etc. That uncertainty is the cause of potential dramatic tension.

Also, "Aunt Janice" recently got name dropped, so some names have been stated. And if I remember right Violet's name is used in her nameplate. Also, maybe it's a cultural thing, but I don't find it odd that Val didn't use Violet's name either to address her. I can't remember the last time I called my mother by name, for example. Granted, I don't have 3+ mothers.

 

[ShiroTaro]

Hi

I just start the game and I found out an error

When Annie yell at Rhea and we came to check up on her and said "Go away" I just did that and the Error pops up

Is there a fix for that ?

Thanks

 

[Ebonheart (FR)]

It's not a mystery to the readers, but the dramatic irony exists because we know something the ASS girls and maybe Val doesn't and are left wondering how they will react if/when they find out. Well they take it negatively that Val's mom was responsible for the last house burning down? If Val didn't know, will she be upset that her mom might have caused friction with her new friends? Will the school administrator try to get Val kicked out? Etc. That uncertainty is the cause of potential dramatic tension.

Also, "Aunt Janice" recently got name dropped, so some names have been stated. And if I remember right Violet's name is used in her nameplate. Also, maybe it's a cultural thing, but I don't find it odd that Val didn't use Violet's name either to address her. I can't remember the last time I called my mother by name, for example. Granted, I don't have 3+ mothers.

I don’t entirely question the value of this approach, which can indeed create some dramatic tension, introduce a bit of conflict, or even lead to slightly absurd and occasionally amusing situations. However, it seems important not to overestimate its scope, as in terms of dramatic potential, it remains fairly limited, even somewhat artificial. I doubt this element will really gain much importance or serve as a solid narrative foundation, and I don’t think it’s relevant to build an entire storyline around it.

Regarding "Aunt Janice", the fact that her name appears in the game makes sense given that she isn’t significantly involved in the stakes related to the endings of AR1, nor in the more meta aspects of the game. To be honest, I don’t recall seeing a nameplate for Violet, or maybe I just missed it, so I wonder if you’re referring to the painting where she kind of "appears". That painting doesn’t mention Violet by name, though, it refers to a "Fair Lady".

What caught my attention more isn’t that Val doesn’t call her mother by her first name, which is perfectly justifiable, but rather that Violet’s name is never written; not in the dialogue box at that moment, nor anywhere else in the game that I can think of, whereas that’s usually the case for any other character in a game of this type.

Finally, it’s quite hard to imagine a culture where a child would have so many maternal figures that she would call them all “mom” without distinction. Even assuming the child has several mothers or guardians, it seems unlikely that such a generic term would be used without any differentiation. Imagining someone regularly saying “Mom1,” “Mom2,” or “Mom3” seems at best improbable, even downright absurd. In any case, this situation doesn’t seem very coherent from that perspective; I suppose Violet is Mom number one?

 

[Rehwyn]

I don’t entirely question the value of this approach, which can indeed create some dramatic tension, introduce a bit of conflict, or even lead to slightly absurd and occasionally amusing situations. However, it seems important not to overestimate its scope, as in terms of dramatic potential, it remains fairly limited, even somewhat artificial. I doubt this element will really gain much importance or serve as a solid narrative foundation, and I don’t think it’s relevant to build an entire storyline around it.

I doubt it'll be the sole storyline, but the university administrator already had a mini-freakout when she thought Val's name might connect her to Violet. So I suspect it'll come up as at least a minor conflict sometime.

Regarding "Aunt Janice", the fact that her name appears in the game makes sense given that she isn’t significantly involved in the stakes related to the endings of AR1, nor in the more meta aspects of the game. To be honest, I don’t recall seeing a nameplate for Violet, or maybe I just missed it, so I wonder if you’re referring to the painting where she kind of "appears". That painting doesn’t mention Violet by name, though, it refers to a "Fair Lady".

What caught my attention more isn’t that Val doesn’t call her mother by her first name, which is perfectly justifiable, but rather that Violet’s name is never written; not in the dialogue box at that moment, nor anywhere else in the game that I can think of, whereas that’s usually the case for any other character in a game of this type.

Honestly, I don't really remember if her nameplate is used or not. I thought I remembered it being used, but honestly it doesn't really matter. Players know who she is.

Finally, it’s quite hard to imagine a culture where a child would have so many maternal figures that she would call them all “mom” without distinction. Even assuming the child has several mothers or guardians, it seems unlikely that such a generic term would be used without any differentiation. Imagining someone regularly saying “Mom1,” “Mom2,” or “Mom3” seems at best improbable, even downright absurd. In any case, this situation doesn’t seem very coherent from that perspective; I suppose Violet is Mom number one?

I do actually know someone with two moms (which admittedly is a lot less than 3+), and they do call them both mom or mama, unless they are both there and they need to be specific. So for one-on-one interactions it doesn't strike me as that odd.

In any case, the intentional ambiguity of how many moms she had wasn't particularly distracting to me, and I can understand HanakoX's motive for trying to keep as many people's canon ending to AR1 valid as possible. I do get that others might feel differently however.

 

[Buletti]

What caught my attention more isn’t that Val doesn’t call her mother by her first name, which is perfectly justifiable, but rather that Violet’s name is never written; not in the dialogue box at that moment, nor anywhere else in the game that I can think of, whereas that’s usually the case for any other character in a game of this type.

Because you could rename the MC in AR1. So there is no canon 1st Name.

 

[Rehwyn]

Because you could rename the MC on AR1. So there is no Canon 1st Name.

I had actually forgotten whether or not you could rename her, since I kept it as Violet. Thanks!