Mod Ren'Py Adam and Gaia : THXE [R4 C] [Doomed City]

[Alpha Male Adam]

Hope you're feeling better! Thanks for the preview. Still hyped!

 

[Le Mat]

Thank goodness for 'no real porn', however I cannot grasp whether the hentai images are actually censored in the game ? Are they ? As they are in the thumbnails indeed ?

 

[Epadder]

Thank goodness for 'no real porn', however I cannot grasp whether the hentai images are actually censored in the game ? Are they ? As they are in the thumbnails indeed ?

99% of the images are censored, there are only a few exceptions.

The images are mostly sourced from Japanese Hentai Games, with only a few sources here and there that aren't games. Games are usually the only way to get a consistent series of images featuring a single character.

*shrug*

 

[ivo12345]

When the mod is better than the game it's based on Anyway, I love both!

 

[Epadder]

Fallen Utopia Update 3.5:

Moving the progress update to next week... trying to align things a bit better with the coming holidays...

Current progress update schedule (Dec 4th, Dec 18th, Jan 8th 2021).

Have a good week and see you soon with some more info.

 

[Alpha Male Adam]

Sounds good. Hope your holidays are going well so far.

 

[Alpha Male Adam]

Epadder Are you still planning to make guidelines for anyone who wants to create and submit a matron?

 

[Epadder]

Epadder Are you still planning to make guidelines for anyone who wants to create and submit a matron?

I mean the guide I've mentioned before is more about how to add additional daughters/encounters to the game.

To add a matron is inherently a much more involved process and really would sort of be a thing to shoot me a message in private to hash out specifics...

Here are things to keep in mind if you want me to add a matron fully into the game as part of the core package, I'd start here before doing a huge amount of writing.

• You need a source of images for the matron.
  • Japanese Game CG or Artist Image Set preferred.
  • Matrons need a background free 'sprite' of the character to be available.
• You'll need an outline of the quest by 'stage', each stage needs at minimum a two sentence description of what will happen in the scene.
  • There should at minimum be 1 sex scene before the quest completes and then you need 1 sex scene for the 'bedroom'.
• If human you also should have a firm theme/appearance theme and a source of 20 'daughters' to be chosen from, if it's a monster matron... I'd still prefer you have a firm theme and at least 5 potential daughters.
  • Each human daughter should have at minimum a foreplay scene(Blowjob/Titjob/Handjob), a defloration scene (doesn't require visible signs, but is preferred), and two sex scenes. It would be better to have at least 3 foreplay scenes and 4 sex scenes.
  • Each monster daughter should have 1 foreplay and 2 sex scenes with a 4th scene that is either another sex scene or foreplay.

I'd recommend once you have the matron in mind, to run the source imagery by me first before even doing an outline. I have a lot of images in my backpocket that I'd like to keep available for me.

I guess that covers it, if there is anything else I'll answer what I can...

 

[Alpha Male Adam]

My mistake, I didn't realize you originally meant adding stuff for encounters or daughters. I know a matron is a lot of work, so thank you for laying it all out.

While I have a few different matron ideas, the primary one I'd like is one where the matron is also your daughter. For a game that's all about fucking and breeding your daughters, it seems just a bit off that all the important story characters aren't your daughters.

I don't know if time travel should be involved (which doesn't really fit the setting), or if it starts with a special encounter with some woman in the wilderness, who fades into the background after birthing your named daughter matron(s), (who grow with a crystal like all your other daughters) who is the one who moves into your camp.

The twins of Venus thing is also really hot, so I thought, what if a matron could actually be twins? And so these special daughters could also be twins (still count as one matron, in that they're fucked and bred together, and their daughters come from the same pool), who each give birth to one daughter (so it's like Venus in that two daughters are born from every breeding of the matron, but without the insane ramp up of every granddaughter also giving birth to twins).

The hentai artist derauea has done high quality art for a lot of games, and there is at least one pair of his characters who are similar-looking enough to be twins, for which multiple frames of artwork exist, and for which pregnant versions of some images exist.

Since most/all of the matron inspirations are from myth and legend, the closest myth I can think of to fit this would be Lot's two daughters who sleep with him so they can get pregnant. If that's the inspiration we loosely use, the twins could be named Sodom and Gomorrah (Lot's daughters slept with him after escaping the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but don't have names in the source material), with the twin daughters getting the player drunk when they first meet him or something.

If this isn't a "hell nope" idea to you, then I'd be interested in discussing it more with you over DM like you suggested.

 

[Epadder]

My mistake, I didn't realize you originally meant adding stuff for encounters or daughters. I know a matron is a lot of work, so thank you for laying it all out.

While I have a few different matron ideas, the primary one I'd like is one where the matron is also your daughter. For a game that's all about fucking and breeding your daughters, it seems just a bit off that all the important story characters aren't your daughters.

I don't know if time travel should be involved (which doesn't really fit the setting), or if it starts with a special encounter with some woman in the wilderness, who fades into the background after birthing your named daughter matron(s), (who grow with a crystal like all your other daughters) who is the one who moves into your camp.

The twins of Venus thing is also really hot, so I thought, what if a matron could actually be twins? And so these special daughters could also be twins (still count as one matron, in that they're fucked and bred together, and their daughters come from the same pool), who each give birth to one daughter (so it's like Venus in that two daughters are born from every breeding of the matron, but without the insane ramp up of every granddaughter also giving birth to twins).

The hentai artist derauea has done high quality art for a lot of games, and there is at least one pair of his characters who are similar-looking enough to be twins, for which multiple frames of artwork exist, and for which pregnant versions of some images exist.

Since most/all of the matron inspirations are from myth and legend, the closest myth I can think of to fit this would be Lot's two daughters who sleep with him so they can get pregnant. If that's the inspiration we loosely use, the twins could be named Sodom and Gomorrah (Lot's daughters slept with him after escaping the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, but don't have names in the source material), with the twin daughters getting the player drunk when they first meet him or something.

If this isn't a "hell nope" idea to you, then I'd be interested in discussing it more with you over DM like you suggested.

The time-travel aspect is a nope, but otherwise it's a 'maybe'.

Would have to see it more fleshed out into a quest chain with scenes.

Also I guess to just reiterate if anyone else has ideas... that writing is the hardest thing for me to do.

Well more the aspect of turning a description of a scene into a fleshed out script... so a lot of the heavy lifting on the quest side/sourcing things side will need to be done by the person with the idea.

Me offering to add matrons is basically me using my skill with Ren'py so you don't have to make a mod to insert the characters in.... also using my scripts to process the images so that they take less space.

I have a lot I want to accomplish myself for the game and the other projects I'm working on, so going to be very much in the background on any of these ideas...

 

[Epadder]

Fallen Utopia Update 4

Update time again.

Progress:

Been working on many things in the background.

I have implemented that feature I mentioned a few updates ago, right now it only applies to navigation. Not sure if it will get a broader use or not.

Also did more work on the outlines for the characters being added for the next update.

Finally have been working with Alpha Male Adam on his idea throughout the week.

Plans:

I will keep working on this when I can over the coming weeks/holidays. I will be a bit busy though, so might not make as much progress as I like... but I'll try my best.


That's all for now.

Everyone stay safe and have a good couple of weeks until the next progress report.

 

[ivo12345]

From which game is Izanami's art?

 

[Epadder]

From which game is Izanami's art?

Niizuma Koyomi and Niizuma Shino

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[Spirk]

Really appreciate your hard work remaking this to a Renpy Engine. Structure of the code looks really good from my initial look at it. Just curious if you'd be able to write out the guide about how to add additional daughters/encounters to the game? I've experimented a bit to see if I could change out images on existing characters but it doesn't seem to be a simple process. Seems like more is involved. If you could list out the steps to do so it would be really cool.

 

[Epadder]

Really appreciate your hard work remaking this to a Renpy Engine. Structure of the code looks really good from my initial look at it. Just curious if you'd be able to write out the guide about how to add additional daughters/encounters to the game? I've experimented a bit to see if I could change out images on existing characters but it doesn't seem to be a simple process. Seems like more is involved. If you could list out the steps to do so it would be really cool.

Well here is the quick fire version...

A general guide...

• Foreplay scenes are 5 images long.
• Sex scenes are 7 images long.
• Daughter ids should be 5 characters long, venus' daughters ids must be sequential to link together properly ... so (ven21 + ven22 are linked)
• Available daughter's regenerate every time the game is restarted.
• Available encounters regenerate every time they have been exhausted for a zone.

File guide...

• Files need to end in webp extention.
• Preferred resolution of files is: 1280x720.
• Other resolutions should work mostly okay as long as the width can be tiled 3 times to fill the screen... might look a little weird if not.
• Files \ Folders should be lowercase.
• Folder structure is (zone/mother name)\id\id scenetype\
• Under (zone/mother name)\id\ are two image files 'id'.webp and 'id'i.webp, the first is used when shown in the camp menu, the next is shown when you start a scene with that character.
  • id.webp's resolution is 400x450.
  • 'id'i.webp's resolution is 800x800.
• Filename for sex is 'id scenetype 01'.webp
• 01 - 05 , 06 - 10 , 11 - 15 for foreplay scenes
• 01 - 07 , 08 - 14 , 15 - 21 for sex scenes
• 01 - 12 , 13 - 24 , 25 - 36 for threesome (3p) scenes
• 3 variants for each is the max.

Other...
The Foreplay scenes are:

• BJ = Blowjob
• BNH = Blowjob/Handjob combo ... basically a variant on a normal bj.
• TJ = Titjob
• HJ = Handjob

The Sex scenes are:

• FTS = First time sex (Defloration scene, doesn't have to be visible)
• BS = Doggystyle (Behind Sex)
• MS = Missionary
• SS = Standing Sex
• SWS = Sideways Sex (leg lifted)
• LS = Lap Sex (Basically girl sitting in lap facing forward or backward)
• CG = Cowgirl (Standard on-top with male laying back)
• RCG = Reverse Cowgirl (Girl facing away)
• PS = Pregnant Sex

You don't have the bare minimum scenes for daughters are:

• 1 Foreplay (BJ/BNH/TJ/HJ)
• FTS (First time/Defloration)
• 2 other sex scenes (BS/MS/SS/SWS/LS/CG/RCG)
• Venus' daughters require a 3p (threesome) scene.
  • Made of a combined foreplay and sex scene for 12 images.

Encounters bare minimum scenes are:

• 1 Foreplay (BJ/BNH/TJ/HJ)
• 1 sex scene (BS/MS/SS/SWS/LS/CG/RCG)

Uh hopefully I didn't forget anything... I recommend before anyone does this that they make a backup of their current version/saves so they can go back in case of needing to fix things. Once a character is part of your save with broken images.. well there isn't a good way to get rid of them.

Also I have been working a bit on a wrap-up update to Generations that includes a few fixes to the code and fixes a few broken daughters scenes that I finally caught.

PS... Don't know how quickfire that guide was.

 

[Spirk]

Hehe...Not so quickfire but the details are welcome.

The one thing that I didn't realize when I was testing single images was that it wouldn't work from a loaded save if that image had already been used in that particular save.

Is there a way to use webm for the scenes that currently use webp? Sometimes you can find animated gifs which can be converted to webm but not webp (at least not without losing the animation). I'm wondering if I would have to change the filetype in the code?

 

[Epadder]

Hehe...Not so quickfire but the details are welcome.

The one thing that I didn't realize when I was testing single images was that it wouldn't work from a loaded save if that image had already been used in that particular save.

Hmmm it's not that you can't change an image in the save, but if you remove or change things for a character that has already been generated.

Scenario A:
Say you add a daughter with id of d0001, but when testing you find out that you messed something up and decide to delete the character completely.

Well that character with that id has still been generated and saved to whichever matron you added the character to.

So every time you visit the screen where her images should be you get an error.

Scenario B:
Say you add a daughter with id of d0001, but when testing you find out that you had too many images for one of the scene types.

If when that daughter was generated it saved the 2nd image variation of a scene, so range 08-14 or 06-10.

Deleting the 06/08 image will not change the scene to use the 1st image variation of that scene.

So you would have to duplicate the first scene to cover the mistake with the generated daughter.

I'm not sure what exactly you tried with the single image replacements with bad results, though.

Is there a way to use webm for the scenes that currently use webp? Sometimes you can find animated gifs which can be converted to webm but not webp (at least not without losing the animation). I'm wondering if I would have to change the filetype in the code?

So to make sure that everything works I'd say that you have to keep the first image in a sequence.

• Foreplay (01, 06, 11)
• Sex (01, 08, 15)
• Threesome aka 3P (01, 13, 25)

As a webp image, because the first image is the one that is checked to find it's size so that it can be resized appropriately when it is displayed.

But even if you do that, there is still another hurdle to overcome.

Ren'py does not automatically define movie files, like it does for images.

So you would either have to manually define the movies or create code for the game to automatically define them for you.

This isn't something I have built-in currently... I've tried to be as consistent as possible and finding animations consistently for every character used as a daughter/encounter would be impossible and then limits the pool of games to even draw from.

 

[Epadder]

Fallen Utopia Update 6

Update time again.

Progress:

I've only had time to work with Alpha Male Adam on his idea throughout the week. Which has been written, but there is still a bit more work to do before it can be added to the game.

Plans:

Will do the best I can over the coming weeks to continue making some sort of progress, but may not be able to get done as much as I like.

I hope to have an update out that has a couple of fixes and some extra content out relatively soon, I was hoping for today/early next week but not going to promise that I'll get to it until after the new year.


That's all for now.

Everyone stay safe and have a good couple of weeks until the next progress report. (Jan 8th, 2021)

 

[Alpha Male Adam]

I've only had time to work with @Alpha Male Adam on his idea throughout the week. Which has been written, but there is still a bit more work to do before it can be added to the game.

Sorry for taking away from other development time! I really appreciate it! I hope everyone likes the new matron we're putting in.

 

[Epadder]

Fallen Utopia Update 7
I didn't have a lot of time to work on the next update, but... here is something new to chew on much sooner.

Doomed City: Release 4 Update A

Overview:

• Added a new human matron quest-line, mostly written by Alpha Male Adam (some revisions and changes were made by me).
• All scenes have full vocal sound effects and sex sound effects implemented.
• All scenes have custom music.
• Added 20 new human daughters for this matron. (75% sourced and complied by Alpha Male Adam)
• Added 6 more encounters available during the new quest-line.

Other:

• Fixed some bugs caused by missing images that were in the generations update.
• Found and fixed a bug in the town/victory scenes that wasn't discovered until testing this update.
• Fixed a bug with displaying the scene variants.
• More useful custom debugging enabled.

I am uploading the new version to mega atm, I will then report the thread and see about having a kind uploader add some additional mirrors.

The Mac and Android versions will be coming later (15th, 29th). Want to let other people besides Alpha Male Adam and I test to make sure there aren't any bugs before I make the other builds. (Especially Android is a massive pain to compile).

If you do have an error make sure to attach the 'game_debug_log.txt' along with the exact error message supplied by Ren'py.

If it isn't standard procedure for you... always recommend keeping your latest save safe and not overwriting it with the latest version until after you have played the update for a substantial period of time bug free.

I'll be around to try and fix any problems you have by the 15th when the mac version is coming out.

Things will probably be slow on Fallen Utopia for a couple of updates (15th and 29th) respectively.

Enjoy and stay safe out in the crazy world.