I wouldn't say unrealized. I've said it many times before, here for example.
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MissCougar
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Agreed again! I remember that post.
There's pros and cons to bringing everything to a new level of availability. I'm glad people can do complex art much faster, but sadder for the artists who probably see the writing on the wall for their career choice.
Kinda wish people would stop asking artists to use AI to speed up their work though. The thought doesn't seem to cross people's minds that artists might actually, you know, enjoy the process of making art?
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I can imagine the frustration. And also the feeling of being reduced. Like what you do could be easily done by AI. It's something people in general will need to figure out how to handle. AI is still new and growing in interesting areas that may not be used to seeing their efforts get reduced to seconds by a computer. Sure it's not great but is "close enough" good for people?
Image, voice, and video generation are certainly going to make evidence in court cases... interesting.
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No doubt! I have been enjoying the heck out of some of the AIBaby stuff going around too. A baby Gordon Ramsey cussing out someone will never not make me giggle.
"artist" doesn't mean shit. People have put a banana on a wall and called it art. The word is so bloated that I don't think any kind of gate keeping would make it have some value again.
That being said, if using Ai to generate a picture makes you an artist, writing code does too. Everything that one creates to express themselves can be called art... This post is art... Op is an artist.
That being said, if using Ai to generate a picture makes you an artist, writing code does too. Everything that one creates to express themselves can be called art... This post is art... Op is an artist.
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Do a tiger and a wolf, and you have the 3 basic characters on any furry bara gay game
tanstaafl
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Ok, now that I have more time and I'm not leaving in the next 10 minutes to go to dinner, I can address this a little more in depth. This comes very close to gate keeping creating art and trying to create images and concepts people have. Every human being has concepts and images in their head (except for those unfortunate few with aphantasia), now we have the ability to create these images to some degree. And as AI improves so does our ability to more closely create these images or concepts we are imagining.
And I'm sorry, but throwing shit together in in a 3d engine doesn't make you any more of an artist than using AI does other than you can create things more exactly to your imagination currently...and I do mean currently, because this is changing by the minute practically. So unless you are painting, sketching, playing music of some kind, are a photographer, or any of the hundreds of other types of accepted artists, you can take you "only a tool" argument and shove it up your ass. I mean that in the kindest way possible of course.
Edit: Creating textures and such for your 3d engine counts.
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I was an artist for over a decade until a cast iron boiler section crushed my hand, causing permanent nerve and muscle damage. I can draw for about 20 minutes at a time before my hand is totally unusable.
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And I can carve a piece of wood to look like a humming bird, but I don't do that because it's messy and, honestly, its not something that draws me. I can't draw, but I can make images with AI...and damn good ones, nearly to exactly what I had in my head now.
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Well if Icstor had access to this service at his peak, and he cut back his drug and hookers budget back with like half a procent at most, he could've afforded it I suppose.
Now could you change bikini bottom to a "codpiece", without looking that up if you don't know the thing? If it shows a piece of cod, it's wrong.
Also the fingers on her right hand are off, her middle finger is too short. Maybe it wore down from overuse.
That's fine, nothing wrong with not knowing about an old timey bloodsport.
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All of the images I shared were first shot, no effort attempts to prove something was possible. Contrary to popular belief, getting a good AI image actually takes effort. Oddly enough, this image is the one that took me the most effort over all others in the last few weeks despite it looking less detailed than others. There's quite a bit going on in it. For instance, I used inpainting to lower the detail on the couple, having the light behind them only revealing shadow, because that's more accurate to what would happen; in the first drafts they were a perfectly visible in high detail.
Edit: Another weird side effect of getting further and further into AI. When I started with AI it was just an attempt to get past the samey porn we've been seeing lately, just to prove to myself it could be done. But I haven't actually made a porn image in around a week now (well not a high effort porn image, just nudes like I've posted here to prove a point), having moved on to actually trying to "git gud" at it.
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tanstaafl
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Both hands fixed. Thumbnail is a little weird on the hand behind her back though and the pinky seems a bit...long? wrong? Something. Anyway, at this point photoshop would be the tool to fix the issues.
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I dont know, if it goes the way it is I think they may not end up being called artists - maybe artistic directors or similar. There will eventually be a break in language as the situation evolves. We have sculptors, painters etc.
Maybe AI sculptors? Who knows, maybe that will be 3d models and there is a term for 2d... but I'd wager money terms will eventually arrive.
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