Zellemate

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Hi Zellemate
don't let Dionica bother you.
You made a fantastic game. One of the best games i ever played.
Millions of poeople love your game, so it doesn't matter, if there are one or a handful players, who don't like it.
Don't waste your time with them, we need your time & great talent for more wonderful, exciting & erotic content.
I wish you all the best - and all your fans do the same!
SuperDuper
Thanks for your kind words! I will bring them forward to Starke the main dev. from Heavenstudios (y)
 

Terix3

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Oh new version! And it's bugfixes :KEK:
When was beach patch released again ? Last year i think and then it was not finished even and some an ending was delayed. Nonetheless that was last substantial content update and if i recall shota patch was to be released early next year :LOL:.
You guys remember when patch would come out every 1-2 months ? Good old times.
Well it is what it is, i know the support didn't grow as they expected so they had to look for another solution - start working on another project. Still sucks that trust has no gameplay nor dialogue effect and is just there to taunt me.
 
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Oh new version! And it's bugfixes :KEK:
When was beach patch released again ? Last year i think and then it was not finished even and some an ending was delayed. Nonetheless that was last substantial content update and if i recall shota patch was to be released early next year :LOL:.
You guys remember when patch would come out every 1-2 months ? Good old times.
Well it is what it is, i know the support didn't grow as they expected so they had to look for another solution - start working on another project. Still sucks that trust has no gameplay nor dialogue effect and is just there to taunt me.
Yup, the end of beach patch was around late January/mid February ( at least finished CGs have those dates, can't really remember when they got added into the game). They surely slowed down, if we count the scenes in every patch ( from 12+ to 8 scenes every 2 months). Let also say last scenes are longer and have more layers than the older ones ( take the last lifeguard scene, for example). I think the quality went up, to compensate a slower drawing process. Shota patch went from 20ish to 37 scenes as well.

They also had to slow down due to health issues, i can assure you that. More money will probably bring another artist in to help with the colouring part, since art is the bottle neck of the developing process. Having 2 games/projects doesn't slow things down that much, since there are 2 differents CG teams.

And yeah, i hope one day they will come back and finish everything they want to do in FI, but i guess that day is not something we will see soon.
 

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Having 2 games/projects doesn't slow things down that much, since there are 2 differents CG teams.
For longest time the "we wait for art team" been the excuse for delays. But why any piece of new content needs to have a separate new art? For example why is it not possible to have some scenes with Dan while not being on Gracia route? Dan surely wouldn't mind casually banging Ayame. It would be easy to take some scenes from routes and make them into free roam scenes. It would make sense for Ayame to have sex with those characters once she is fallen without being on their route. All that it would require is writing.

Also trust system is purely writing / coding thing. There is no need for new art whatsoever. Starke wanted to make abrupt endings if player would allow to drop the trust to zero. The thing that doesn't need ending CG, really doesn't. Robert comes home shows on picture on a cellphone (can use here already existing art from relevant route) and tells Ayame to get out.
The trust system is not about ending or art even but giving player agency and connection to Ayames behavior. The money you make would have some use, maybe some gameplay loop and much needed "off rails" experience. This can all be done with text and sprites that already exist.
 
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Hello guys, does anybody know when this game will be complete (in the sense that no more updates or DLC will come out) ?
 
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For longest time the "we wait for art team" been the excuse for delays. But why any piece of new content needs to have a separate new art? For example why is it not possible to have some scenes with Dan while not being on Gracia route? Dan surely wouldn't mind casually banging Ayame. It would be easy to take some scenes from routes and make them into free roam scenes. It would make sense for Ayame to have sex with those characters once she is fallen without being on their route. All that it would require is writing.

Also trust system is purely writing / coding thing. There is no need for new art whatsoever. Starke wanted to make abrupt endings if player would allow to drop the trust to zero. The thing that doesn't need ending CG, really doesn't. Robert comes home shows on picture on a cellphone (can use here already existing art from relevant route) and tells Ayame to get out.
The trust system is not about ending or art even but giving player agency and connection to Ayames behavior. The money you make would have some use, maybe some gameplay loop and much needed "off rails" experience. This can all be done with text and sprites that already exist.
Because they are strongly against re-using art. You'd be fine with those changes, they wouldn't. You have standards, they have different standards but they are making the game and you're just telling them how to make their game. Their trust system is there for a patch focused solely on Robert catching Ayame during sex scenes, it wasn't done because most of you like to talk a lot of shit but you don't put in any money so whatever you get is more than you can complain about. Feel free to support and then complain as a paying customer but until then you're just another "I'm gonna crack the whip and tell one of the most successful teams in the last decade how they should make their game" kids which come a dime a dozen.

You call "waiting on the CG team" an excuse but do you have any idea how much work making all the routes replayable while reverting all the switches, variables and other stuff that tracks your progress in the game from before you make any big decision was? They have have made countless quality of life and bug fix patches ever since February, the map overhaul, some scenes and dialogues were remade and drastically changed from older versions, the changes in the Chad scenes in the bunny route, the chat scene with Sato, and so on and so on but the guy that says "doesn't need art to make an impact" is the first one to talk shit and completely forget it because it has no new art! Oh, the irony.

Likewise, all the new overhauled and redrawn high quality busts with new booba that were presented to later on be added to the game once they were all completed which Starke stated (and showed) that more than half of all the busts in the game have already been re-drawn since they are not put in game you completely disregard all that work as if the CG team wasn't working that whole time. Do you realize the amount of unreleased scenes there is in the spoiler section? Probably not because it's for supporters so yes, the CG team is causing "the delay" which is not a delay, they're just working on the game, we can see their progress and as they have done for the last 8 or so years, as they have always done, they are going to deliver and every troll is going to go under the bridge for a while until it's time to complain about a new patch again.

That's all you guys seem to do around these parts lately, talk shit (literally, looking at your post history in this forum is just appaling, you must be such a bitter and frustrated person in real life). I just find it funny how that topic is taboo in some threads where the mods shill for their dev friends but they completely turn a blind eye in other threads unless someone I don't know, God forbid, uses words like shit or fuck, then you might hurt someone's feelings because you said a swear word in a porn forum. :rolleyes:

In case it isn't too apparent, the brunt of this post isn't directly aimed at you, just anyone with your general negative attitude.

Edit - I withdraw my previous statement about mods. Apparently if you use the report system often and you show someone is constanly being a dick they will get dealt with so that's nice.

Well dev says thet shota DLC cum out this october.
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I bet some fanboy house, that these aren't the "probably" type devs. And if thay sayd october, that will be october.
Oh look, you're here talking out of your ass again, every single post. It's not like there might have been a vote to add scenes to the game which the Patrons understood it would cause the development to go a little over the estimated time.

Does that mean the DLC is free ? If so that's very generous of the dev team
Yes, it's free, as was the Bestiality one.
 
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