VN Ren'Py Alice in Wonderland [v7.2] [Slow Burn Games]

[NewGuy2022]

I assume you haven't racked up any sin points for the MC, otherwise your statement would be obscenely hypocritical.

If the MC and Alice were to get a divorce, I am positive that she would do just fine paying the debt off by herself, since she provides every penny of the revenue they bring in. The MC, however, who provides diddly-squat to reducing their debt, would quickly find himself in bankruptcy court.

You're correct; I ran an (admittedly boring) no-sin route to see if the points even mattered. With a sin count of -1 (I have no idea how that's possible ) and a perversion count of zero the wife still accuses him of cheating and leaves him for the serial sex offender movie producer. Yes, it's a porn game so porn logic applies. And, no, I have not seen her actually cheat yet even though it's implied pretty bluntly.

My point is that things appear to be on a fairly linear path, no matter the player choices. There have been a few forced MC cheating events (you could not choose to avoid them) so it remains to be seen if these will "justify" any current wife infidelity.

We'll see how things go in ch. 8, etc. The developer said here in the thread (several times) that you should be able to avoid actual cheating if you make the proper choices (what happens in the filming and, perhaps, in the flashbacks wouldn't be cheating "today"). I've not given up on the developer yet; we'll see how things proceed.

As for the finances, I see all the debt as hers (the house is gone); you're correct that the MC doesn't bring much income on his own, but he wouldn't have any debt, either. She would go the total whore route (that's fine) and he would be free of her. Her income would be cut in half but given enough months she could raise the 0.5M plus the loan-shark-level interest.

If she goes total-whore, she's no prize; she's just hot to trot. One day when she's not attractive any longer, I wonder how much she'll earn then. I recognize that some players like the idea of cleaning up after other men; if so, that's ok for them (not for me). I don't shame people for their kinks; I just ask they don't shame me if I fail to share them.

 

[Walter Victor]

My point is that things appear to be on a fairly linear path, no matter the player choices.

This is hardly a surprise. As with most developers, this one has a canon path with only a few alternate endings planned for the game. Depending on the developer, those alternate endings may get short shrift, with a few things happening that are not quite logical, since the developer might not really care for those endings.

About Alice becoming a total whore to pay off the debt: If you consider a porn star a total whore, I guess you would be correct.

As for Alice becoming a total whore as this game is going, you're probably right. Since I have the MC collecting as many sin points and perv points as is possible, that's the way my playthrough is headed. I want to see as many sex scenes as possible, within reason [if there's a scene with Alice and a donkey, I'll probably skip that one]. That's why I'm playing this game - no virgin route for me!

 

[NewGuy2022]

That's totally fine and most players likely are doing the same thing as you. I wanted to see a route where everything is stacked against the MC but he somehow tries to resist the obvious easy porn route and to see how it would end up.

Clearly the wife wants to be a whore and not just in the movie, everyone else in the game (including her mother) wants her to be a whore and not just in the movie, the MC is the only one fighting it (but only if the developer allows it). Every scene where the MC and wife are apart will look like she is cheating (whether she is or is not); I get that.

The other thing I'm seeing is forced content. The player can decide "no, I don't want that" but the game does it to you anyway and then tells you that the MC actually likes things that way. Porn logic, I guess.

I'm just curious to see how things end up at this point. Will the developer let the MC hold things together as he said he would?

 

[Svodos]

The developer seems to be very into body hair. Not a single woman there is shaved. It's like a beaver festival.

 

[Kqw102]

Wonderful game, all girls are beautiful. Dev really likes pubic hair and this is good. Keep it up, man

 

[TutuRutuT]

Wonderful game, all girls are beautiful. Dev really likes pubic hair and this is good. Keep it up, man

I completly agree, could be woth some more natural like at the beginning of his other games. For those who dislike there are plenty other games.
The story is fun.

 

[hoochimama]

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Alice -> Debbie

This game seems very promising, like it might turn out to have a path for true /hard /heavy ntr as opposed to "fake ntr". A rarity among 3dcg games.
I'm doing my best to be as protective/possessive of the wife and faithful as possible yet it doesn't seem to be halting her corruption and there's no obvious hint (thankfully) that being more flexible or less predictable with the choices might get a better result.
I'm not forced to play as the wife, nor am i having to force her cheating decisions for her, nor am I privy to her POV or that of any other character so that if there is a reveal the surprise/shock of it isn't completely spoiled for me. I will be almost as shocked as the MC for the true NTR kick. Right now every time the wife leaves the MC to go offscreen my anxiety is already shooting up.

It is so rare to see developers who seem to understand netorare.

With a sin count of -1 (I have no idea how that's possible )

Got the -1 after refusing to join in on the anchorwoman bukkake.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Got the -1 after refusing to join in on the anchorwoman bukkake.

Yeah, I just thought a -1 was odd, that's all. I'm with you on the anxiety. She doesn't have to cheat at all but you're still sweating it a bit especially after what everyone is telling you about her (whether their stories are true or not). To me, that actually is good writing.

 

[JaSteel]

If it is anything like Misfits, then different people lie in different paths. Events still happen but partner loyalty is based on your choices. Meaning, the perspectives seem much the same during the scene, but afterwards it is proven either the partner is lying or the people telling you things about the partner is lying. Generally there is a split based on minimum stats.

For example, it could turn out that Alice wasn't lying about what happened with the boxer in the locker room, or it could be she did exactly what Amy does if you go that route. You don't know for sure until basically end of game.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Well, I'm looking forward to that, then. I know Alice did nothing with the boxer because she was with the MC the whole time. She likely wanted something but she didn't cheat, at least not at that moment.

I really enjoy the dynamic of multiple perspectives on the same event so perhaps that will be enough to keep me in the story.

 

[Grumpybum]

Well, I'm looking forward to that, then. I know Alice did nothing with the boxer because she was with the MC the whole time. She likely wanted something but she didn't cheat, at least not at that moment.

I really enjoy the dynamic of multiple perspectives on the same event so perhaps that will be enough to keep me in the story.

In my playthough there was a point she was alone with the boxer....long enough for a quick BJ

 

[NewGuy2022]

In my playthough there was a point she was alone with the boxer....long enough for a quick BJ

Yeah; the paths are different. The stripper who did blow the boxer in the shower (you and Alice watched) is the same stripper who sets you up with the facial photo in the club later that night (on my route, at least).

 

[NewGuy2022]

If it is anything like Misfits, then different people lie in different paths. Events still happen but partner loyalty is based on your choices. Meaning, the perspectives seem much the same during the scene, but afterwards it is proven either the partner is lying or the people telling you things about the partner is lying. Generally there is a split based on minimum stats.

For example, it could turn out that Alice wasn't lying about what happened with the boxer in the locker room, or it could be she did exactly what Amy does if you go that route. You don't know for sure until basically end of game.

I wanted to try Misfits to see that but couldn't find a mac version to download. I tried the sequel (12 Days of Christmas) but abandoned it without finishing it. Too much forced content that invalidated my earlier decisions. When a dev does that to me I just walk away from that game and delete it.

When the story forced the FMC to go from loyal wife to banging three old drunk pervs at the same time in an apartment, I said "eff this developer; I'm out." If you won't develop a story any better than that then I won't waste my time with you.

 

[shotzpro]

1- Misfits
2- The Twelve Days
3- Alice
4- Undercover

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[MiltonPowers]

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A very productive week- added 60+ renders and 15 animations.

Working on the last event. This has two paths; one is nearly done.

Confident I can hit the new early-release date of 5th December.