All NSFW games on Itch are now hidden by default.

[Iexist]

I'm unsure if this has been asked but do we have any plans what to do if they begin to notice this site? It can't be far away since F95 is relatively big and hold much the eroge they are targeting. I am concerned what'll go down when we're noticed.

F95 has no dealings with VISA or MasterCard, so that's not a problem. The bigger problem is DMCA stuff and piracy concerns and whatnot... but those have always been risks and this situation doesn't change that in one bit. Those wanna-be activists are not really concerned with illegal businesses like F95.

F95 should make an effort to ensure their servers are not in the US and so on, but that's because of completely unrelated reasons to this particular mess...

 

[TheMageBlade]

Got any source on the Cuties bit? They're very consistent in their hate of anything even remotely sexual, especially related to children, I'd be genuinely shocked if they did. They complained about women who didn't look old enough in regular porn.
They're not feminists either, maybe radfem with all the anti-porn posturing but even that is a reach when you consider their ties with Christian and right-wing groups. Just a bunch of puritanical crazies.

Actually they are feminists only a sector of it, their beliefs and actions line with the second wave in the 60s/70s that a lot of feminists do believe in today (Extremist anti-sex, a belief that all erotic is unethical, sex-seperatism, and you guessed it much the demonizing of men we see today got its start there.) Granted today its a disliked sector of feminism as many feminists like their sexuality, want sex worker rights, and they obviously don't see eye to eye on gender identity. But it is still absolute facts that they are feminists.

 

[bomb2022]

People arguing about if this is right or left wing are missing the point.

There are groups on both ends of the political spectrum doing this, they have different reasons but the same goals.

I guess the issue is the connection that they both abuse society's gynocentrism to make it easier to shut down arguments before they can be made

well yeah everyone thinks they know better..
but that's no reason to ban or kill each other
like jesus said: make love, not war

and do you know what's worse than woke/fascist or islamic fanatics?

russia. tsar putin wants a new russian world order like hitler
and he's prepared to use his nukes for it you'll see...

 

[Vivi404]

And just when i got my first dollar the other day..

 

[MurkySkeleton]

I'm sure there will be alternatives.
Either itch io bringing the tags back or a new website for community
but that duration will hurt lots of creators who have their stuff on and make a living out of it.

 

[standbygames]

What needs to be done is a change of laws. What needs to be done is setting into law the idea that "fiction is fiction", and thus shouldn't be treated with the same standards as reality. This will not be simple or easy. It also needs to be done primarily in places like the US and the EU, and thus needs to come from people there. Someone like me from the ass-end of Eastern Europe's (supposedly) Post-Communist Shit-Holes can yap their mouth all they want and sign all the petitions they want... It will not matter. If people in the US, in countries like Germany, France and Spain and the like, do not move, it won't matter.

I mean fiction is fiction is already the law pretty much.. Such laws make 0 difference in this case. The stuff being removed is not being removed because it's somehow illegal. Perfectly legal stuff is being removed simply because the harassers don't like that particular genre/tag and find it "offensive" or "exploitive" (and the genres will keep expanding over time because they really don't like ALL porn, but know they have to go step by step), and they are able to convince the payment processors that it's too much of a hassle to deal with these lunatics so they'll just force steam/itch/etc to ban it.

What's actually needed is a law that say payment processors can not be at all be involved with the censoring/moderation of the content that people and business are buying or selling. A law that says banking and payment processing is a fundamental right necessary to live in modern society and you can't be denied it based on content unless you are committing an actual crime with said purchase/sale and they are willing to file a police report or whatever else to prove it. Unfortunately such laws are very unlikely to get passed at this time as we are losing more and more freedoms and rights through laws these days in many countries, not gaining them.

 

[MelonHeart]

People arguing about if this is right or left wing are missing the point.

There are groups on both ends of the political spectrum doing this, they have different reasons but the same goals.

It's fucking stupid to take this moment to fight each other as a distraction when this whole situation is screwing everyone over.

I'm pretty sure that politics is against the rules for unspecific threads here, but I have to say this. 2025 will be put in the books for the biggest shitstorm in North America. it amazes me how this country regressed decades worth of development within the first 6 months because tweedle-dee and tweedle-dipshit govern the land. The only people who don't see any of this as an issue are either really ignorant, really stupid, or already have the power to whatever the fuck they want because they aren't common people like us.

 

[The Goblin Archives]

And just when i got my first dollar the other day..

I feel you, hopefully things will get better....

 

[Grev7]

I don't get this. Itch.io is sabotaging itself to please payment processors and pissing of customers. It should be the other way around. Just provide alternative payment methods and the consumers will do bank transfers or sign up with another payment processor. There are so many of them, if you look globally. Maybe I am too naive, but payment processing is done by so many ways and companies.

Anonymous people are deciding what I am allowed to do with my money and what I am allowed to sell.

 

[ViviX12]

No point in hoping that US govt would do squat about any of this, so my most optimistic hope is that somewhere down the line there's enough of a buzz about this to lead to EU regulation and ideally an EU-based card company. Rightfully pointed out before was that unfortunately things will have to get worse before enough shit is kicked up to actually fight back anywhere. An american duopoly holding global banking shouldn't be acceptable.

 

[liade]

Guys, me and some tech friends are seriously thinking about creating our own platform. We’d use different payment providers, and even if it won’t be easy, we’ll only drop the idea if Itch.io or Steam reverse their censorship and go back to something close to the old, more open model.


We’ll see. But for me, Itch completely destroyed any trust I had in them ,just like Unity engine did a while ago.


So yeah, if we succeed, it’ll be a free platform (except for illegal content), and indie devs will be welcome to join, sell, and grow!

 

[Grev7]

No point in hoping that US govt would do squat about any of this, so my most optimistic hope is that somewhere down the line there's enough of a buzz about this to lead to EU regulation and ideally an EU-based card company. Rightfully pointed out before was that unfortunately things will have to get worse before enough shit is kicked up to actually fight back anywhere. An american duopoly holding global banking shouldn't be acceptable.

The EU is in favor of censoring in general. The whole continent is a bureaucratic hell, governed by people who want your tax money and micromanage your life. I doubt that they want to stop VISA or Paypal. They would intervene in a heartbeat, if these companies would boycott socialism and promote right-wing ideology. (not saying that rightwing policies would be better. just saying that only then the EU would intervene)

We would have to hope that a competitor from another region like Asia would expand internationally and not censor stuff like this.

 

[DarkEnchanter]

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[VPedge]

People arguing about if this is right or left wing are missing the point.

There are groups on both ends of the political spectrum doing this, they have different reasons but the same goals.

Evangelical Christian nutcase groups (aka the types that push this crap) tend to play both sides like you said in the first place because it helps them get power and push this type of shit and they know they can get away with it to because they know both sides rather bitch at each other then deal with them that and they target low hanging fruits so they can then go after they real targets.

The stuff they went after on steam was said low hanging fruit the main goal is to just flat out remove all porn

 

[ViviX12]

The EU is in favor of censoring in general. The whole continent is a bureaucratic hell, governed by people who want your tax money and micromanage your life. I doubt that they want to stop VISA or Paypal. They would intervene in a heartbeat, if these companies would boycott socialism and promote right-wing ideology. (not saying that rightwing policies would be better. just saying that only then the EU would intervene)

We would have to hope that a competitor from another region like Asia would expand internationally and not censor stuff like this.

There's much stronger customer protection present. A payment processor would much less likely be able to dictate what can be sold when it's not illegal.
And ngl, never felt my life was being micromanaged.

 

[Rafster]

I had the takedown notice, with the usual copy-paste shit. I won't appeal, considering my game has real porn on it, but whatever.

Funny thing, my account is still there, but I'm not sure if any future project will be approved there. And honestly? I'm so burnt down of this shit that I don't care about itch anymore.

 

[shadowkitsune]

In case not many people know: Japan is striking Visa/Mastercard under their FTC act and a US bill is floating around to, hopefully (my hope for that is so damn low cause of the current situation) stop this from going further.

 

[quarros]

Anonymous people are deciding what I am allowed to do with my money and what I am allowed to sell.

Welcome to modern Earth! Gosh... You WILL love it here. /s

 

[VPedge]

90s nanny state puritanism is back on the menu get use to it kiddos

 

[arkublai]

So i heard that some games were deleted even on STEAM, did gaben actualy bend the knee or this was some garbage?

90s nanny state puritanism is back on the menu get use to it kiddos

Supported BOTH by religious zelatos and liberal progressives. Like cunts just cant fight each other, they have to ruin as many things for everyone un-aligned as possibble