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my new biggest gripes with this and AVNs lately is the obsession with LI and future LI not shutting up about past and present sexual relationships that any non drooling moron can already deduce
Isn't this just a byproduct of the post-Patreon purge? The dialog in many of these AVNs has to be "Patreon-friendly" as well.

There's a different level of outrage between "my friend is banging my mom and cucking my own father" and "my friend is banging my sponsor/landlady/whatever."

One is encroaching on your personal life and might cause your parents to get divorced, the other is probably none of your business unless it somehow affects your rent. That makes it hard to find a line of dialog that seems sufficiently serious for one type of relationship, and no big deal or even "I'll play wingwoman" for the other.

Can you imagine IRL, first time you have sex with your new girlfriend and in the middle of the act she tell you that 'Oh, I hasn't been fucked so good since the last time I was gangbanged'
Reminded me of Marla Singer from Fight Club: "Oh my God, I haven’t been fucked like that since grade school."
 
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Is this game a Harem also is there NTR in it and it just doesn't have the tags or neither?
It will be a harem game (all games by ICCreations end up being harems), but it's not there yet. As for NTR, it depends on what your definition of that is, honestly. Some of the girls who will be in the harem are bisexual (or maybe lesbians who make an exception for the MC). For at least two of them, they will both be in the eventual harem but continue to be sexual with each other as well. Some people consider that NTR and others do not. It does not have the tag, though, because at a minimum they are not yet in a relationship with the MC, so they aren't counted as LIs currently.
 

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This is my initial Brightwind Brigade Badge.
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And here its now Yellow.
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Since the last option gives the full yellow badge I assume its the 'YELLOW' variable and there isn't one for black in there.

It will take me a while to organize my 400 screenshots, so I will eventually post the typos and bugs on his discord, but anyone knows about this particular one? Did he retroactively added Black as an option and didn't get to update throughout the story? Or its the opposite he forgot to add black in these scenes?:unsure:
 
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This is my initial Brightwind Brigade Badge.
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And here its now Yellow.
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Since the last option gives the full yellow badge I assume its the 'YELLOW' variable and there isn't one for black in there.

It will take me a while to organize my 400 screenshots, so I will eventually post the typos and bugs on his discord, but anyone knows about this particular one? Did he retroactively added Black as an option and didn't get to update throughout the story? Or its the opposite he forgot to add black in these scenes?:unsure:
Hey Neb, the OP says there is important choices to make is that true? I have played a lot of games that said that same thing, but it usually turns out not being the case. And is any sex scene forced?
 

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Hey Neb, the OP says there is important choices to make is that true? I have played a lot of games that said that same thing, but it usually turns out not being the case. And is any sex scene forced?
I didn't see that many choices, let alone important ones so far. Its this myth about sandbox being open world, Freeroam, the reality is that sandbox games are kinetic novels with 20 extra unnecessary clicks on top of them. You need items, relationships points etc and the only way to farm them is by going through each storyline, sure you can pick the order sometimes but you can't avoid most of the stuff. This is why I say its an antiquated game design that should have died in the 2016-2017 era of AVNs.

I don't remember, you also like to play monogamy routes? Then its not for you, most relationships and scenes are forced onto you one way, or another, you are given some options to not escalate things, you can avoid creeping on people at night(classic sleep rape, that sort of stuff) but for the most part you are just along for the ride. :HideThePain:

The only reason I am putting up with it is because I have been watching the dev' DAZ livestreams and he seems like a decent person, I said I have to do my best to give his game a fair shot, but don't think I will ever support something like this.
 

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I didn't see that many choices, let alone important ones so far. Its this myth about sandbox being open world, Freeroam, the reality is that sandbox games are kinetic novels with 20 extra unnecessary clicks on top of them. You need items, relationships points etc and the only way to farm them is by going through each storyline, sure you can pick the order sometimes but you can't avoid most of the stuff. This is why I say its an antiquated game design that should have died in the 2016-2017 era of AVNs.

I don't remember, you also like to play monogamy routes? Then its not for you, most relationships and scenes are forced onto you one way, or another, you are given some options to not escalate things, you can avoid creeping on people at night(classic sleep rape, that sort of stuff) but for the most part you are just along for the ride. :HideThePain:

The only reason I am putting up with it is because I have been watching the dev' DAZ livestreams and he seems like a decent person, I said I have to do my best to give his game a fair shot, but don't think I will ever support something like this.
Ahh so it's one of those games that's a shame but thank you for the detailed answer friend. And yeah, monogamy is what I mostly enjoy in AVN games, so I think its best if I avoid this.

I Should have realized once I saw the sandbox tag lol.
 

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Did he retroactively added Black as an option and didn't get to update throughout the story? Or its the opposite he forgot to add black in these scenes?:unsure:
If you look in \game\images\scenes\scene_oliviasaved there are no black pieces at all. So I believe ICC must have forgotten he had that as an option, and when he made all the various color combinations, forgot to render that one.

_blue, _green, _orange, _purple, _red, _yellow for B's and leaves both.


EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized that Black is the default color (oliviasaved_27.webp) and the color pieces are then supposed to be overlays on top of the all-black background. So it's probably some kind logic error that makes it overlay yellow as the last option instead of having that be "no overlay"
 
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If you look in \game\images\scenes\scene_oliviasaved there are no black pieces at all. So I believe ICC must have forgotten he had that as an option, and when he made all the various color combinations, forgot to render that one.

_blue, _green, _orange, _purple, _red, _yellow for B's and leaves both.


EDIT: Nevermind, I just realized that Black is the default color (oliviasaved_27.webp) and the color pieces are then supposed to be overlays on top of the all-black background. So it's probably some kind logic error that makes it overlay yellow as the last option instead of having that be "no overlay"
I am code challenged, but from what URM detects, there is a check for red, blue, green, purple, orange and the last one doesn't show a label, so I just assumed it was supposed to be yellow as default. Black is clearly missing at that scene check.
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The variables are there, just not getting called. Anyway, thanks for checking.
 

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I am code challenged, but from what URM detects, there is a check for red, blue, green, purple, orange and the last one doesn't show a label, so I just assumed it was supposed to be yellow as default. Black is clearly missing at that scene check.
Well, in case you were curious:

Code:
    scene oliviasaved_25
    if mc_bb_badge_right == 'RED':
        show oliviasaved_25_right_red:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    elif mc_bb_badge_right == 'BLUE':
        show oliviasaved_25_right_blue:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    elif mc_bb_badge_right == 'GREEN':
        show oliviasaved_25_right_green:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    elif mc_bb_badge_right == 'PURPLE':
        show oliviasaved_25_right_purple:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    elif mc_bb_badge_right == 'ORANGE':
        show oliviasaved_25_right_orange:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    else:
        show oliviasaved_25_right_yellow:
            xpos 250 ypos 501
    with fade
That's the code for the right half. The problem is the last "else" makes yellow the default if every other test fails. There should be another "elif" test for 'YELLOW' and the last "else" should just do nothing since the background is already black.
 
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It will be a harem game (all games by ICCreations end up being harems), but it's not there yet. As for NTR, it depends on what your definition of that is, honestly. Some of the girls who will be in the harem are bisexual (or maybe lesbians who make an exception for the MC). For at least two of them, they will both be in the eventual harem but continue to be sexual with each other as well. Some people consider that NTR and others do not. It does not have the tag, though, because at a minimum they are not yet in a relationship with the MC, so they aren't counted as LIs currently.
Is there a place in this website where those tags are defined (kinda like vndb does)? Leaving it to each individual user seems to be the cause of a lot of unnecessary discussions.
 

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Is there a place in this website where those tags are defined (kinda like vndb does)? Leaving it to each individual user seems to be the cause of a lot of unnecessary discussions.
Current Tags Used: https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/
Likely / Planned Tags: https://f95zone.to/sam/planned_tags-v2.html

They've been talking about updating those for something like a year now, but it still hasn't happened. So whenever that happens, there will probably either be a new post for those or the first link above will be updated. That second link will show you what's likely going to be the future set of tags.

And for the record, I still find a large number of unnecessary discussions on this site, despite existing definitions. I have my doubts that the planned tags will change that really, but I guess we'll see.
 

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Is there a place in this website where those tags are defined (kinda like vndb does)? Leaving it to each individual user seems to be the cause of a lot of unnecessary discussions.
Current Tags Used: https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/
Likely / Planned Tags: https://f95zone.to/sam/planned_tags-v2.html

They've been talking about updating those for something like a year now, but it still hasn't happened. So whenever that happens, there will probably either be a new post for those or the first link above will be updated. That second link will show you what's likely going to be the future set of tags.

And for the record, I still find a large number of unnecessary discussions on this site, despite existing definitions. I have my doubts that the planned tags will change that really, but I guess we'll see.
Cookie beat me to it. But even the staff interpret them differently. It's a crap shoot.
 
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Current Tags Used: https://f95zone.to/threads/tags-rules-and-list-updated-2019-03-24.10394/
Likely / Planned Tags: https://f95zone.to/sam/planned_tags-v2.html

They've been talking about updating those for something like a year now, but it still hasn't happened. So whenever that happens, there will probably either be a new post for those or the first link above will be updated. That second link will show you what's likely going to be the future set of tags.

And for the record, I still find a large number of unnecessary discussions on this site, despite existing definitions. I have my doubts that the planned tags will change that really, but I guess we'll see.
Thanks, that's very helpful. I don't expect much to change either, but at least we can refer to the official definitions when needed I guess.
 
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