appreciate the answer but unfortunately its not for me if i cant fully stop it from happening i usually wont play the game. simply skipping the scene dosnt really change how i view it either way it still happened and for me it ruins any interest i would have had in those characters. Similar as someone else said before its so common in avn's that it honestly made me dislike lesbian scenes which i truthfully used to enjoySorry if I wasn't clear, While all adult content that happens in the story is technically canonical to the story, you will be warned i advance before the scene happens and be given the option to completely skip over to the next scene. Also I am trying to keep mention of their sexual activities to a minimum in the story dialogue. For example, the girls or the M.C will really only mention they had sex, but won't specifically talk about what they did. Hope this helped
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Believe me, that's not how it works. People don't really care if it's skippable or not. They don't care if it happened on-screen or off-screen. What matters to them that it happen.
If you really think lesbian content is necessary for your story then please go ahead. There are players for every time of game.
You should add tags like 'kinetic novel' and 'lesbian' in planned tags atleast.
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Text need improvements, a lot of errors. Renders need improvements too, really noisy with artifacts, and quality. Same with facial emotions. I hope there will be good character development. But overall beginning not bad.
Btw there are 3 simple rules for relatives Capital letters in beginning.
And PNG in 2024... WebP or at least JPEG, or game will be 10Gb soon.
Btw there are 3 simple rules for relatives Capital letters in beginning.
And PNG in 2024... WebP or at least JPEG, or game will be 10Gb soon.
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you guys do know that not every girl is going to be 100% straight, right?
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It really did. And thx for not flying off the handle like usually happens when someone is questioned.
Tired or bored of it makes more sense. That, while I don't share the sentiment, I can certainly understand.
My question came because it just struck me as weird for someone who obviously enjoys looking at women in a sexual act to be that against seeing a lesbian scene, avoidable or not... over done or not. I mean, what's to not visually appreciate, the mechanics?
For example, I don't enjoy NTR scenes that show a woman with some ridiculous chad/alpha/douche or ugly abusive obese guy or some dominating 80 year old. It's not the mechanics or tired of seeing it, it's the partner and the scenario... I just don't want to see it. The scenario and imagined relationship is mentally offensive to me.
Which brought about my question of religion. I don't understand (not that its any of my business) what there is to be offended by except 'lesbianism' itself, which is a bit problematic.
** Again, just to reiterate, being 'bored of it' I do get.
If it is a kink I'm not really offended by but don't enjoy seeing, such as pegging, I'll just 'fast forward' through it.
Not that 'lesbians' are a kink, but voyeurism of it for a male certainly is.
I'm more in the camp of enjoying a creators story and where they bring it, and I'll see the scene as being a part of the plot they're building even if I do fast-forward through it. Choices, when not a kinetic novel, are more for seeing another side of or to adjust a plot than to avoid or ensure a specific kink.
And, to me, unless the game has you playing AS the female character, having a 'choice' in what she does seems kind of counter-intuitive as it's not something that can happen IRL.
If there were a kink I just couldn't abide, like scat or the above for example, I would just not play the game instead of pushing a creator to change or provide an out from their story. If someone, creator or player, is into those kinks, while I may not get it, go and enjoy. I just won't be participating and I'll move on.
That being said, "is it avoidable?", seems to be normalized in the community and all this was more just my opinion on VNs than anything... so feel more than free to ignore it.
And if your intent was to find out BEFORE playing, then my whole spiel was for nothing as you were just doing your due diligence
Again, thx for the reasoned reply.
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Believe me, I've noticed as much as criticism I've gotten for my grammar or lack of abilities to pull off telling this story. I'm still focused on sticking to writing this how I want. I do appreciate critiques that point out flaws in my work and offer help to make it better. I just ignore comments that just outright say something is terrible and offer no ways to make it better, like what do you want me to do with that. As of now I'm still dedicated to and honestly reading the comments of people excited to see what happens next has motivated me more. For those curious I have already finished writing chapter/day 3 and should be done with 4 in a couple days depending if I'm satisfied with it. While I do have an outline written of all the events that go from beginning to end. I still have to write all the in between stuff so mainly that and dialogue are what usually take up my time.
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I understand and I appreciate you being respectful for the way you brought this up. I would like to say adding some dialogue and story bit to make the lesbian content completely avoidable would be easy, if there is any lesson I've learned since I started this is "Anything that seems easy, is most likely gonna be really hard to figure out and pull off."
I hope you stay tuned and enjoy the story as it unfolds
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A very good start for a aspiring developer. So far I love the story, the girls are somewhat common but still good choices, though the MC is a bit weird, i don't mind the 2 different eye colors, but I would suggest to go for a bit more natural colors, the blue one attracts to much attention away and make him look somewhat weird. For the graphics, well i guess some already mentioned them, they a tad grainy and might need some more crispier touch. Either way, it your first VN and you already on a good way, so keep on improving and it will become good VN's you plan to make.
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Big talk, can you name a few of these games? I´ve only played maybe 800 games or so but didn´t find things like this.
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Hustle town has one LI who told MC she will fuck him only when he hooks her up with an another LI. This LI also makes MC watch the video of her fucking another girl while she's fucking MC.
one of the LIs starts fucking and spending most of her time with a side chick and barely gave any attention to MC.
Every girl is vocal about wanting to fuck other girls.
There are many games with inexperienced LIs and her slutty friend who corrupts and fucks her before passing her to MC. DMD is one of them.
Price of power has 4 LIs. If you want MC to fuck 2 of them you'll have to allow them to fuck each other as well. If you don't let them fuck you won't do anything with them either.
Summer scent has 2 LIs and they always said they are virgins BUT they tell you much later that they were fucking each other the whole time.
Twists of my life one LI is literally stolen away from MC by a side chick. MC is thrown away from their life. The game is not tagged as NTR cuz lesbians
Need more examples?
is this you saying you will make it avoiadable or that it sounds simple bet is more difficult than most would think
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I'm trying to say it might sound simple, but it could be more difficult. For example, I had some comments on the M.C's age and that he should be older then 5, sounds simple to just change 5 to 10 or whatever age fits better. I did end up agreeing that yes it would make more sense due to them giving me good critique and reasons why it would be better to make the M.C older for the story. However a lot of the ages for some of the females needed to be changed as well since they were tied to his age and some plot points later in the story needed to be edited as well. So yes changing one thing might need me to edit other things down the line.
HOWEVER considering how respectful both you and Harem4life have been about this, I did give it some thought and while the relationships between the M.C and the primary female cast of (Saeko, Vanessa, Laura, Sandra, Deborah, Delilah, Tamara, Juliet, Lily, and Haley) will NOT be avoidable. Kinks such as lesbian, group sex, or other certain content will be rejectable by the M.C through dialogue choices.
Side note this means the secondary cast of females that I have planned to come in will now also be completely avoidable, so multiple endings will now be a thing as well.
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Sorry to hear that hopefully you change your mind and give Altered a chance later on.
I downloaded it. Haven't played yet , but will try it out. Going to form my own opinion.
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Just wanted to do a quick update as to where I'm at with the next update:
* I've finished the script for the next story update. I'll be grammar checking it through Microsoft word and some other means to hopefully have less grammar mistakes.
* Thanks to thocra for providing me with some settings and advice on improving my renders I believe they will look so much better moving forward. Also huge thanks to sergerserj for pointing out that .jpeg would make the file size smaller, I've managed to convert them from .png -> .jpeg. I will try to also redo as many renders from V 0.1 as I can for the coming update.
* I also wanted to thank everyone for all the useful feedback and advice they have provided, I appreciate it all of it and it has helped me come up with what I hope are some cool ideas for future events.
* To close this out I wanted to share the results of the new settings for the renders hopefully you all approve:
* I've finished the script for the next story update. I'll be grammar checking it through Microsoft word and some other means to hopefully have less grammar mistakes.
* Thanks to thocra for providing me with some settings and advice on improving my renders I believe they will look so much better moving forward. Also huge thanks to sergerserj for pointing out that .jpeg would make the file size smaller, I've managed to convert them from .png -> .jpeg. I will try to also redo as many renders from V 0.1 as I can for the coming update.
* I also wanted to thank everyone for all the useful feedback and advice they have provided, I appreciate it all of it and it has helped me come up with what I hope are some cool ideas for future events.
* To close this out I wanted to share the results of the new settings for the renders hopefully you all approve:
this is good news. it means you looked back and decided to take some of the advice others gave you and to work harder on fixing the things you can
about skippable or avoidable i will say one thing ,but before that i want to give my porps to the dev,good game so far,i need to be fair and say i cant give my opinion to the skip or avoid without give one very good example of that,and i dont want ppl to be offended for any imputof this,...there is one game[alternated existense by Mr.Knobb that have 2 scenes with future Lis having or participating in sex]and some ppl go rampage with that ,so dev after creating a skipp [not avoidable]switch ,and even them same ppl go rampage again,so i dont know how much you want to change your initial script or if you want to change it at all,but sy i dont see sex between myharem girls as ntr but i do seem like its always depends on the touch the dev gives to those scenes ,how many they are ,if this is the norma;,or if that puts the mc relatinship wich such girls in danger,.
im not harem4life true harem guy i like sometimes 1 or 2 outside the bunch or even dont like inside my harem,the only thing i dont like is another dick inside my harem,oh yeah and not to have choices when it comes to chosee my Li's,...so again i want to say maybe chek some games outhere and come to a fair choice for everybody,...
but yeah skip isnt avoid,so is your turn now to find your path,good luck to you Mr.J_Dev,i will definetevely cheking out this one for sure
im not harem4life true harem guy i like sometimes 1 or 2 outside the bunch or even dont like inside my harem,the only thing i dont like is another dick inside my harem,oh yeah and not to have choices when it comes to chosee my Li's,...so again i want to say maybe chek some games outhere and come to a fair choice for everybody,...
but yeah skip isnt avoid,so is your turn now to find your path,good luck to you Mr.J_Dev,i will definetevely cheking out this one for sure
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Glad your enjoying it so far, as for the skipping and avoiding topic, I decided to go with avoiding certain content and the secondary cast of girls(Those who are not tied heavily to main plot of the story).
The reason why the primary cast of females isn't avoidable is due to how I wanted to write the story. The story isn't just about the M.C, but also these women that are a part of his life. That's why if I cut out any of the primary cast in anyway it will make certain points in the story confusing.
As for the sexual content, There will always only be one guy the M.C, While I generally don't mind lesbian content in other people's games. I still prefer for the M.C to always be involved in some way and not just feel like he is sitting in the corner waiting to be tagged in. All that being said while I did have to change a decent chunk of my original outline for the story, to accommodate for being able to bring the option to avoid certain sexual content and the secondary cast of females(You can pick and choose who you want to decline a relationship with).
If people are respectful in voicing their opinions and critiques about the story I'm willing to listen and take it into consideration, but I will only make changes that won't change my overall plan for the story. I know I kind of rambled there, but hopefully this helps.