RPGM Abandoned Alvein [v105a] [Yni]

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cooperdk said:
I tried to explain it, but you didn't listen.
I have worked with a lot of incest families due to my actual profession, so I know something about it.

There is a slight difference between biology and legal mumbo-jumbo. Law does not define incest, biology does. Read on...:

Incest is, yes, one to two steps away in a direct line. An aunt/uncle isn't in a direct line, since they are not of the same blood as you (your parent's sibling doesn't share close enough DNA for it to actually be inbreeding). That is why sex with an aunt or cousin is not biologically regarded as incest.

An aunt is not two steps away in your direct blood line. A grandparent is. An aunt is two steps away, but in an indirect line which makes it legal. A first cousin is three steps away.

Again, incest if: child, sibling, parent, grandchild or grandparent.
You can, in most countries, marry your niece, cousin, aunt or uncle. That is why it is not incest if you have sex with them (and sex with them is legal in all western cultures. In very few prudish countries, like the US, you cannot marry your aunt or cousin even though it is legal to have sex with them, but you can in most other western countries).

And here I didn't even talk about aunts of marriage - an aunt who married your parent's sibling. There is no blood relation and absolutely no discussion that this could never be regarded as incest. I didn't include this originally because in this game, the aunt is MC's mother's sister (if she actually is his mother, but that's what he thinks at least).

On a funny note, many games try to make it "okay" for stepsiblings to have sex. That is actually, for some reason, illegal in most western countries, even if the stepsiblings don't share any DNA. This is legal stuff: the family connection is too close.
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What's your profession? Incest hunter?
 
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cooperdk said:
I tried to explain it, but you didn't listen.
I have worked with a lot of incest families due to my actual profession, so I know something about it.

There is a slight difference between biology and legal mumbo-jumbo. Law does not define incest, biology does. Read on...:

Incest is, yes, one to two steps away in a direct line. An aunt/uncle isn't in a direct line, since they are not of the same blood as you (your parent's sibling doesn't share close enough DNA for it to actually be inbreeding). That is why sex with an aunt or cousin is not biologically regarded as incest.

An aunt is not two steps away in your direct blood line. A grandparent is. An aunt is two steps away, but in an indirect line which makes it legal. A first cousin is three steps away.

Again, incest if: child, sibling, parent, grandchild or grandparent.
You can, in most countries, marry your niece, cousin, aunt or uncle. That is why it is not incest if you have sex with them (and sex with them is legal in all western cultures. In very few prudish countries, like the US, you cannot marry your aunt or cousin even though it is legal to have sex with them, but you can in most other western countries).

And here I didn't even talk about aunts of marriage - an aunt who married your parent's sibling. There is no blood relation and absolutely no discussion that this could never be regarded as incest. I didn't include this originally because in this game, the aunt is MC's mother's sister (if she actually is his mother, but that's what he thinks at least).

On a funny note, many games try to make it "okay" for stepsiblings to have sex. That is actually, for some reason, illegal in most western countries, even if the stepsiblings don't share any DNA. This is legal stuff: the family connection is too close.
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No you did not try to explain anything, you simply said that sex with aunt is not incest. NOW you have explained, and far better than I did by the way. This is what I was trying to explain, but better.
 
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I just wanna give props to the dev for releasing a linux version. Thinking of us who have a Steamy Fap Deck. Saves me time from copying files and creating my own linux version :')
 
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Just downloaded this game and I loved it. It has a Town Of Passion vibe to it that's very nostalgic. The only thing is that after playing the current story with every other character I started with Romi. Everything was going great but then on the mision where you both go to a tent the game just stops and I can't do anything. I've tried a couple of times but it always has the same result. Hope this gets solved on the next update. Looking forward to more content
 
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cooperdk said:
Again, incest if: child, sibling, parent, grandchild or grandparent.
You can, in most countries, marry your niece, cousin, aunt or uncle. That is why it is not incest if you have sex with them (and sex with them is legal in all western cultures. In very few prudish countries, like the US, you cannot marry your aunt or cousin even though it is legal to have sex with them, but you can in most other western countries).

And here I didn't even talk about aunts of marriage - an aunt who married your parent's sibling. There is no blood relation and absolutely no discussion that this could never be regarded as incest. I didn't include this originally because in this game, the aunt is MC's mother's sister (if she actually is his mother, but that's what he thinks at least).

On a funny note, many games try to make it "okay" for stepsiblings to have sex. That is actually, for some reason, illegal in most western countries, even if the stepsiblings don't share any DNA. This is legal stuff: the family connection is too close.
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to the first part, that's arguing of if the definition of incest is when the genetics get fucked after rinse and repeat, or if done within a single generation. pretty dang sure after 3 successive generations of cousin breeding the recessive genes will start to show... if not be problematic health wise. take
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if i remember right that 6.25% double or triples when done even twice. it isn't a flat COI percentage but cumulative and/or multiplicative. (could be wrong about multiplicative, it could simply stack.)

as for the other in-law/step incest bullshit, i completely agree. it's pretty fucking retarded and i'd actually like to hear an actual logical argument made for it tbh. not one made by some smuck who 'just don't like it'.

kinda hope the game dev here fucks off patreon and goes to a more thought crime free platform like subcribestar. because i for one am sick and tired of art and comedy being censored by asshats for no good reasons. (no irl person or animal was harmed in the making of this game right?! :p )
 
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billyjoebobmartin said:
to the first part, that's arguing of if the definition of incest is when the genetics get fucked after rinse and repeat, or if done within a single generation. pretty dang sure after 3 successive generations of cousin breeding the recessive genes will start to show... if not be problematic health wise. take
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if i remember right that 6.25% double or triples when done even twice. it isn't a flat COI percentage but cumulative and/or multiplicative. (could be wrong about multiplicative, it could simply stack.)

as for the other in-law/step incest bullshit, i completely agree. it's pretty fucking retarded and i'd actually like to hear an actual logical argument made for it tbh. not one made by some smuck who 'just don't like it'.

kinda hope the game dev here fucks off patreon and goes to a more thought crime free platform like subcribestar. because i for one am sick and tired of art and comedy being censored by asshats for no good reasons. (no irl person or animal was harmed in the making of this game right?! :p )
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Was not expecting genetics course when I went to last page to look for a save file xD
 
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71b fixed version is availible on
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Code: 
-Fixed Romi in Snow location.
-Fixed a bug in the tent.
-Now Romi tells you how to solve the puzzle with the Crystals.
-Slightly rewritten dialogue with Nicole and Emilia.
 
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Yni said:
71b fixed version is availible on
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This topic will also be updated soon.


Code: 
-Fixed Romi in Snow location.
-Fixed a bug in the tent.
-Now Romi tells you how to solve the puzzle with the Crystals.
-Slightly rewritten dialogue with Nicole and Emilia.
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This is completely unrelated but I need to know the name of the song you used when Kieth beat up Ygritte if you could tell me the name I would really appreciate it.
 
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