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Sadat

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74% done. I'm targeting the end of March for the release of the next episode. If you want to know the progress of the patch, feel free to join my discord.
Great job so far! But, man, do I have to say this... the use of condoms in the NTR/Sharing patch is a turn-off so great that, for me it is like you take all you job in doing this scenes and threw in the trash, and i'm sure i'm not the only one to think like this.
what's worse is that ALL the sex scenes are like this... dudy seriously?! Why?
I will never undestand why some devs do this, not even in real porn you see condoms enymore.
I really hope you rethink this, because harem lovers won't even see these scenes, those who don't care or like NTR/Sharing are the ones who will. I wouldn't be wasting my time if I really didn't like your VN,
so i hope you understand that this is constructive criticism.

I wish you success & Good Luck!
 

Raoddik

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for me it is like you take all you job in doing this scenes and threw in the trash
I personally didn't mind that, from logic pov it make a lot of sense, it also give a option to make some progress on that line like client requesting not to use one that can lead to some interesting things etc.

But honestly, I'm just surprised that it could be such turn off for someone, everyone to their own I guess :)
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Sadat

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client requesting not to use one that can lead to some interesting things etc.
Sure, one or two scenes with condom is more than suffice, but we already have many client requests, swinging scene with the guy banging the mc girlfriend with condom but mc don't use condom and even creampie her, wath in this situation is ridiculous. So ALL scenes with condoms, is a big turn-off.
And the impression is that the dev is trying to keep some dignity for Emilie, which is a big mistake, because this path is not for that, the player has to choose this and not be imposed to him, not to mention that the cost is very expensive, 70% of the eroticism of the scene or more is thrown away.
But honestly, I'm just surprised that it could be such turn off for someone
And i'm surprised with you surprise :), i know for a fact that even in real life condom is a fuckin big turn-off, you only use this when you REALLY don't have a choice man it's like y'are using a fucking glove, so put this in VN?! For me is really annoying.
 
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I think the condoms signalize the wish of getting a baby (mc and fmc). So there is a simple importance for that fact imo. At least i thought that by reading the story. Maybe im wrong.
 

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but mc don't use condom and even creampie her
Yea well, she was on pill so I guess that's why it was fine.

so put this in VN?! For me is really annoying.
Believe me, its shows in your post :)

And i'm surprised with your surprise
But that's good isn't it? I learned something, you learned something. :)
I personally see it like something good, I wouldn't want my girl (that I care about) to get disease from some random dude. :p Saying that, I'm pretty sure sooner or later we will get request from client wanting creampie her.

Overall I get it, you love the game (as me) but there is this little thing that ruin it for you, happened to me too, and I also know that nothing people say can't change the fact that it is pissing me off and I wish it was changed. :p

But... I also (usually :p) like when the devs make the game how they want, I like to believe they have reason doing things one way or another.
In ideal world we would have some scene variation and we could make choice but because how rendering works it's usually too much work sadly.
 
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Sadat

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I think the condoms signalize the wish of getting a baby
No, you choose, if you don't want they use pills.
I wouldn't want my girl (that I care about) to get disease from some random dude.
In the first place if you care so much about this girl why you are selling her? :cool:
We already have a love patch for that, and talking about love patch, if he really care why are the mc fucking with many girls without protection, he can get a disease and pass for his girlfriend. :sneaky:
No my friend this don't have not to do with this.
I don't even know why they put this shit condoms in the games anyway, it's not like someone will open this forum and say "hey dev why we don't have condoms in this shit?, i don't want my girls to fuck others unprotected" this would be really hilarios! :D
 

Raoddik

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In the first place if you care so much about this girl why you are selling her? :cool:
Maybe some people have sharing kink and yet they can still care about other person, who knows...

We already have a love patch for that, and talking about love patch, if he really care why are the mc fucking with many girls without protection, he can get a disease and pass for his girlfriend. :sneaky:
It was just example but well, it's higher chance to get it from some random dude that visit prostitutes regularly than from girl that you know.

No my friend this don't have not to do with this.
At this point we can only guess, and your guess is as good as mine. :)

I don't even know why they put this shit condoms in the games anyway, it's not like someone will open this forum and say "hey dev why we don't have condoms in this shit?, i don't want my girls to fuck others unprotected" this would be really hilarios! :D
Actually that's why I belive dev have some kind reason for it.
 
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Sadat

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Actually that's why I belive dev have some kind reason for it.
I will give you 2 VNs as exemples: Deliverance and Our Red Strings, in the first one the mc is married and you have two routes too like AF, but in the sharing route you will never see a condom.
In RS you have i think 3 or 4 scenes with condoms, but it's because the female protague (You have two in RS the other is the male) don't take pills in the begginer, so you have a good reason, but when she starts taken the pill, don't mather the patch you are, condoms will never appear anymore. Unfornately in RS there almost no animations, but the history, the wrintg, and all the different choices and paths you can take make RS UNIQUE, and of couse the art is good too.
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... very very annoying, a total waste of a really hot situation that could have been created, suck a shame.
So all in all, here the real motivation is to "protect" Emilie, and with this motivation for me he fucked up big time ALL THE SHARING PATCH!!
I think he loss a lot with this, but hey this is my thougth.
 

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I will give you 2 VNs as exemples: Deliverance and Our Red Strings, in the first one the mc is married and you have two routes too like AF, but in the sharing route you will never see a condom.
In RS you have i think 3 or 4 scenes with condoms, but it's because the female protague (You have two in RS the other is the male) don't take pills in the begginer, so you have a good reason, but when she starts taken the pill, don't mather the patch you are, condoms will never appear anymore. Unfornately in RS there almost no animations, but the history, the wrintg, and all the different choices and paths you can take make RS UNIQUE, and of couse the art is good too.
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... very very annoying, a total waste of a really hot situation that could have been created, suck a shame.
So all in all, here the real motivation is to "protect" Emilie, and with this motivation for me he fucked up big time ALL THE SHARING PATCH!!
I think he loss a lot with this, but hey this is my thougth.
Birth control is expensive as shit in this world, and almost every guy other than MC is a john. Emilie would be fucking disgusting if she was having unprotected sex with those creeps, save it for the bad ends.
 
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Sadat

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Emilie would be fucking disgusting if she was having unprotected sex with those creeps
Are you kidding? She fucks with a virgin dude and she is in the pill, and guess what happens? She tells the dude to put on the fuckin condom... told you, annoying as fuck!!
 

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She tells the dude
She tells the dude
Just a little louder for those in the back
She tells the dude
Wow, you mean her bodily autonomy is being at least minimally respected? How horrifying.
It's really funny to me that you're sitting here going on and on about what NTR fans don't like while you're ignoring that one of the staples of Japanese corruption and NTR is wearing used condoms like they're jewelry.
 

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Who told you i'm NTR fan?
Where did I call you an NTR fan? Don't be a dumbass, you brought NTR and their fan's perspectives into the discussion before I even replied to you.
the use of condoms in the NTR/Sharing patch is a turn-off so great
those who don't care or like NTR/Sharing are the ones who will.
Either way if you want Emelie fucking around without condoms then it's not an NTR/swinging/prostitution fetish, it's an STI fetish.
 

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I really like this game so far, it scratches a lot of my kinks ^^ Not the NTR and sharing with other males stuff, but luckily it's totally avoidable. Maybe because of those two things I did not tried it earlier - but good I gave it a try now :)
The added Quiz-Mod get's a big thumbs-up. I would have struggled on some answers and way less liked the game without this option.
During my play I saw Jenna's path locked and wondered why - so I loaded after reading here a bit about her and older save and got her now also on sub (E+C+J). But this locked her sister - I was friend with both of them on my first try. After more reading here I did not found a answer how to avoid this.
My understanding so far is, I can get Emilie+Cassandra+Jenna on sub, Amanda for breeding (and more fun?) but without Lea. In my current save I'm also with Iris at 8/8 .... is there also a possible sub path with her? Is there a way I'm missing for an more complete "collection" of the girls?
A WT-mod would help, unluckily there is none. Therefore I would really appreciate some answers,hints or tips ^^
 
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But this locked her sister - I was friend with both of them on my first try. After more reading here I did not found a answer how to avoid this.
That's how it is, you can't get Jenna sister and be on her sub route at the same time (I believe AtemX explained logic behind that in this topic), for Iris there is blackmail path.
For Amnda, it seems there will be pregnancy (love?) and porn star route but it's just guess from what I saw so far, we will see.

Imho, this game is massively underrated. :(
 
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reality and VN/Games don't mix very well, unless you are talking about a dating sim game with big consequences in decisions, like in real life if you cheat you can lose not only you partner but the girl you cheated with too, or never get caught and things like this, what is not the case in this one and i think any game with harem tag.
A setting with big consequential decisions? You mean like a setting where women are being kidnapped in broad daylight, taken to criminal black sites and raped, impregnated and whored out to powerful men? Gee, I wonder what the consequence of a choice to let your GF have unprotected sex with those slimy fucks would be :unsure:
 
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