mehGusta

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Thanks AtemX for making this game. Only played a significant amount of the love route and it's really a story that makes you feel good. But I was told by another player that the sub route can develop into a wholesome relationship on its own, so I want to play both routes and I'm giving it a shot (I know this isn't the community's favourite route). While I agree that it would be nice to have other ways of getting into the sub route (even along with the existing ones, just allowing one the roleplay a different kind of dominant MC) I don't want to make a critique of this aspect, rather ask a few questions regarding the sub route:

1) So far, up to fist Wednesday, I've had at least 3 opportunities to jump out and switch to the love route, in quick succession. Each time I've had to "force myself" to take the opposite choice to what I'd like, because, as far as I know, once you're tagged in the love route, you can't go back and see the content on the other route. Will you constantly be offered chances to opt out, or is there a point at which you can start being nicer to Emily without being taken out of the sub route?

2) it's been a while since I read about it, so I'm no longer sure if you can avoid the darker story (forced prostitution, etc) while remaining on the sub path. My hope is that yes, forced is an optional arc.


Edit: played a bit more and it seems like 1) when you tell Emily that you're only attracted to her sexually, you're locked into the sub route, and 2) you can refuse the escort proposal even on the sub route. But does that also close the door to any other swinging content? I'm unsure if the "sharing" warning that the game issues with the escort choice means that you're making a definitive choice to allow or reject sharing, or if more opportunities will arise in the future.

3) Could it be that the wholesome ending the other player mentioned was actually from having transitioned from the sub to the love route at some point? If that's the only way, then what's the last chance you get to do that, while still exploring as much of the sub route as possible?

Again, thanks
to get a bit more technical here, there are 2 variables in the game.
"emilie_rel_love"
and
"emilie_gf"

the first variable determines if you are on the love path or on the sub path. if it is set to true, which happens early in the game, it will prevent you from ever getting Emilie into the escort job which has the most sharing scenes in the entire game.
the second variable determines if Chris (the MMC of the game) considers himself in a relationship with Emilie. in both love and sub routes this can be set to true, including if Emilie is an escort.

what this means is that while on the sub path you have 3 routes you can take:
Emilie is a sub and exclusive to Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his property

so if you want to avoid any bad endings, the last route should obviously not be taken. the other two are therefore only variations between keeping Emilie for yourself or share her.
in other words, after you made her Chris's girlfriend on the sub path, the choices of whether Emilie should quit or not, refer exclusively to her job as escort and not to your relationship.
 
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reidanota

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- There are several opportunities throughout the game to transition her from a “sexmate” to a “girlfriend” relationship, but she will remain submissive from the moment you drag her into it. Making her your girlfriend will change the way you interact with each other, and obviously what happens at the end of the game.
what this means is that while on the sub path you have 3 routes you can take:
Emilie is a sub and exclusive to Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his gf
Emilie is a sub and gets shared by Chris as his property

so if you want to avoid any bad endings, the last route should obviously not be taken. the other two are therefore only variations between keeping Emilie for yourself or share her.
in other words, after you made her Chris's girlfriend on the sub path, the choices of whether Emilie should quit or not, refer exclusively to her job as escort and not to your relationship.
Still haven't finished the game your posts, and URM seem to be all the walkthrough needed for this game, thank you. I dare say you don't even need URM, since Emily gives you multiple opportunities to confess your feelings for her have changed, while on the sub path, that are pretty obvious even if you're not looking at the code behind the scenes. You can even take the first chance to do so, as it doesn't preclude escorting.

Not sure about this, but to avoid any bad endings, don't you also have to avoid the second gangbang scene? That's a tricky one, because you don't know what's coming when you get your third chance to jump out of Robert's jobs. The state you find Emily in the next morning is so shocking I didn't even check if there's yet one more chance to jump out (there seems to, in the code), and rolled back. Given what happened after the first one, I'm thinking this gangbang would break Emily... in some way. Let me know if I'm wrong, and if the gf route and good endings are still open if you let this happen before deciding it's too much.
 
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Still haven't finished the game your posts, and URM seem to be all the walkthrough needed for this game, thank you. I dare say you don't even need URM, since Emily gives you multiple opportunities to confess your feelings for her have changed, while on the sub path, that are pretty obvious even if you're not looking at the code behind the scenes. You can even take the first chance to do so, as it doesn't preclude escorting.

Not sure about this, but to avoid any bad endings, don't you also have to avoid the second gangbang scene? That's a tricky one, because you don't know what's coming when you get your third chance to jump out of Robert's jobs. The state you find Emily in the next morning is so shocking I didn't even check if there's yet one more chance to jump out (there seems to, in the code), and rolled back. Given what happened after the first one, I'm thinking this gangbang would break Emily... in some way. Let me know if I'm wrong, and if the gf route and good endings are still open if you let this happen before deciding it's too much.
well that's really going to be a spoiler by now, but technically you still can withdraw after the 2nd gangbang (or how i would refer to it, the 3rd escort job from robert) and avoid a severe bad end.

however
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you may have refered to the quick guide i made a page back on avoiding NTR elements in the sharing route. they may be NTR elements, but they aren't as bad as the 3rd escort job in reference to the possible endings you can get. so if you are really curious about sharing scenes but want to avoid bad endings, then every escort job is less dangerous than the 3rd escort job by far. besides that the most important part is to treat Emilie with care.
 
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and that can be considered bad for the still possible good endings. but you are really far ahead into a bad ending by now, so i would advice against it
Thanks again, that's definitely not what I'd go for in a first or second playthrough, but if you say there are still redeemable good endings after the 3rd robert job, I'd think the consequence you mentioned is a good life lesson for the MC (and Emily, although she was only guilty of letting others make decisions for her) and serves as a counterbalance for how badly the MC has to treat her in the beginning. Making him face (and accept) the situation seems like a good test of character. As long as they can still end together, and you can avoid bad endings for other characters as well (although I can imagine one or two ways that other characters' arcs would be directly affected), it's a possibility, in the future. My red line with harder fetish routes of any kind is that there needs to be some sort of redemption, a good closure even if the road to get there was difficult and paved with harsh lessons. It's rare to see it in games.
 
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someone knows what to type here ? i have tried with the name of the girls even with serial number of the girls on the hint part but none of these is the correct answer.
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someone knows what to type here ? i have tried with the name of the girls even with serial number of the girls on the hint part but none of these is the correct answer.
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there are quite a lot of words you can type in to get specific emails. you need to find 12 emails if i remember correctly and one email doesn't make a lot of sense if you haven't already seen another email. so try to redo emails if you didn't get all clues.
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can you still unlock lea's path even if you dont choose to do a shoot with lea and jenna later down the line or is her path gone completely.
 
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can you still unlock lea's path even if you dont choose to do a shoot with lea and jenna later down the line or is her path gone completely.
I play this game with URM and I just checked my saves on that particular choice (Lea_Path is set true by default as all paths are true by default) and if you chose to do a solo shoot with Jenna that Lea_Path variable is set to false, but since I always did the duo shoot I'm not really sure if later you can set it again to true with another choice. Sorry for not be more helpful, not gonna run all the game to check it. Maybe someone else that did the solo shoot and later got into the path again can tell you.
 

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I play this game with URM and I just checked my saves on that particular choice (Lea_Path is set true by default as all paths are true by default) and if you chose to do a solo shoot with Jenna that Lea_Path variable is set to false, but since I always did the duo shoot I'm not really sure if later you can set it again to true with another choice. Sorry for not be more helpful, not gonna run all the game to check it. Maybe someone else that did the solo shoot and later got into the path again can tell you.
i also use URM but i didnt want to make it true seeing as its been a while since then and seeing as how far in the story i am it wouldn't make sense if she just pops up and starts talking about things i never went through with her.
 
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i also use URM but i didnt want to make it true seeing as its been a while since then and seeing as how far in the story i am it wouldn't make sense if she just pops up and starts talking about things i never went through with her.
Yeah sorry my post before was completely useless. After a few minutes after reading it again I though about deleting it. Anyway I only played the Full Harem/Love path and my awareness about locking out of a LI path would always be a permanent state. Not really sure about all of the LI's but for sure almost all of them.
 

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Yeah sorry my post before was completely useless. After a few minutes after reading it again I though about deleting it. Anyway I only played the Full Harem/Love path and my awareness about locking out of a LI path would always be a permanent state. Not really sure about all of the LI's but for sure almost all of them.
nah np, i started over and took lea path. also at the end i used urm to see the marcus runaway path and it was phuucking hilarious.
 
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Please remind me, if we tell Cassandra to follow her dream, that is, to become a supermodel, will we automatically break up with her?
 
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