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juan palote
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NTR just requires that someone that belongs to you gets sexually stolen away, whether that's a love interest, family member, childhood friend or just a live in sub NTR is NTR.
You whore your sub out to a bunch of human sex traffickers and eventually you're gonna get her stolen away.
The MC is a clear dom in either route though. Emilie goes along with everything he tells her and even in the love route he takes it too far for her sometimes. No matter what NTR in this is a dominant MC getting cucked. It doesn't work with the love route because the MC is actively protecting her. She doesn't manage her social medias, she doesn't post anything to her AF, she doesn't answer her fan's DMs. The only opening the Epstein group gets on her is if the MC literally sends her to them.
I get why NTR fans want NTR on love routes instead of corruption routes but with the setup this game has it doesn't make sense. If we're looking for good romantic betrayal with NTR then it makes more sense to allow options for the MC to explicitly fall in love with her while on the NTR route. That way there could be more of an emotional backlash that the MC feels when he does presumably lose her without compromising the love route.
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Wow i just finished this updated version (for the sharing/slave route) and I got to say the dev really improved from the first version. I really enjoy how you can be more loving to emily on the sharing/slave route and even treat her and call her your girlfriend while still having that relationship. Also really glad the dev didn't focus way to much on the other girls and primarily focused on the main girl. The other girls still have content but not to overbearing and not overshadowing emilie's content as well as the option to avoid other girls sexual advances and stay faithful to emily even on the sharing/slave route. I'm also really glad the dev stayed true to the route being primarily sharing/netorase and not turning into netorare just because she fucks someone else even if she enjoyed having sex with others. I just hope the dev doesn't force netorare in the future of the slave/sharing route just because we whore her out.
There has to be a legitimate bond, not just the status. For example, if an MC treats his mom like shit and doesn't give a rat's ass about her, her going around and banging others is not really NTR. I mean, you can write it in such a way that it still leans into NTR a bit, but it won't have the same vibes. Similarly, in this game, the MC on the non-love route views her literally as a commodity and sex toy. I just now got to the NTR/or not choice and I can see some tint of possessiveness, but no real bond to be broken. If she gets Epsteined and lose interest in the MC, I can see how he might sulk and get annoyed about losing his cash cow and possession, but it's hard to imagine an emotional impact on him without actual love and affection involved.
That's a fair point. I keep mentioning that I'm still early in the game because I might not have the full picture on the different routes and their direction.
On a more general note, I wonder how many players would enjoy and actively pursue a route where the dominant MC loses his girl (like true NTR where she stops caring about MC eventually). I actually have no clue and only have my own preferences to make a guess.
TBH and I don't mean to sound selfish about not wanting real NTR routes to develop, but I'd hope that kind of thing would be mostly contained to bad endings. It just seems like it'd split the development too much to continue the game for people who've actually lost Emilie past that point.
As for how many people would enjoy it, idk but I suspect a decent few actually would. I don't like NTR but I absolutely love reading the comments on NTR games, the back and forth between the haters and the enjoyers is just one of my favourite sources of entertainment. Every now and then you come across some NTR fans who just absolutely want to watch everything burn, and I think given how dark the world building in this game is that it'd probably attract a few of them.
For what it's worth, NTR is probably my favorite theme, but I also don't see it being very productive in this one for the reasons I've mentioned before. I think doing the "NTR," aka just whoring them out for personal gain, is good enough and fits the narrative well. Of course, doing another route split that leads to true NTR would be ok too, but I personally wouldn't go for that route when they have this super dom/sub relationship going on.
hermesh
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The relationship between Emily and the MC seems to be the central focus of the game, a real breakup would likely be game over (similar to selling her, which triggers a very bad ending not just for her but also for the MC). Sharing&prostitution so far happen only at the insistance of the MC and against the preference of Emily. While she experiences sexual arousal in some of those situations, she was never "tempted" or interested in those partners but rather did it for the MC. So the NTR tag is likely a result of the very broad NTR definition used on the forum: NTR = LI has sex with anyone that is not the MC. This seems to be considered NTR even *with* his explicit consent/approval & without actually loosing her (non-approval&loss would normally be required for the narrow NTR defintion).
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It's really cool that you've managed to bring out the story in such a way that you feel the horror of what's happening on the screen.
By the way, it would be nice to add a scene unlock button to the gallery.
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No please don't, NTR as bad endings is really boring and the implication of our actions is too short for our enjoyment (or suffering). Power Vacuum comes to mind.
It will be better to be further dragged out so that we can taste the burn in full.
The setup leading up to it should be dragged out, yes. I just don't see how you continue this game after you actually lose Emilie though. So far this game seems to be about MC and Emilie's relationship, whatever form it takes. Can't continue a story about their relationship after it ends.
To be clear I'm not saying keep NTR sex scenes exclusively in bad ends. If there's supposed to be real NTR then have it lead up to it properly but keep actual part where the MC actually loses her, and experiences a destruction of their relationship to the bad endings. Doesn't make sense to continue the game without her to me, and I think continuing past that would also stretch development out too much.
As an NTR hater I agree with the point about Power Struggle. The non canon bad endings just cheapen both the vanilla experience and ruin the NTR experience. Kinda shitty how making a bad choice leads to that monster of a man screwing the MC's family, and them just plain giving it up to him when it takes the MC literal weeks to get anywhere with them. Then it feels kinda shitty to the NTR fan who never gets to see any blowback or development from the event, it just happens and goes back to the choice like nothing happened.
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This was a really nice update. Emilie still adorable as always and a fav. I like that you added some choices to the previous version to not show the nudes (I still did anyways, but glad you gave others that choice from the feedback). That was really nice of you to do that, so much respect for that.
Overall though, really enjoying this game still and glad to see it still going. Emilie is a great LI and unique, and it's a nice change of pace as there isn't many games like it. So thanks again for all your work and look forward to what comes next!
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Overall though, really enjoying this game still and glad to see it still going. Emilie is a great LI and unique, and it's a nice change of pace as there isn't many games like it. So thanks again for all your work and look forward to what comes next!
if you choose to not upload the nudes do more nude photo scenes happen and you just don't upload it or do they stop completely?
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i dont know man. i dont think this game is for me. to much depressing stuff on the love route. watching the girls get drugged and used at the owners places was bad enough. but now a potential LI is a rape victim? that's usually where i stop. it's the reason i dropped "Rainy Day" same reason ima drop this.
over all i was enjoying the game overall except those 2 things. that and the damn quiz. luckily the mod helped with that though.
but yeah anyways good luck dev.
Edit: tried to finish this update at least... the situation with cassandra made it worse.
(edited as i played.) wow and Natacha made it even worse and even if you have an innterest in Lea apparently she'll still do dark deals with clients. in general game is to depressing for me but at least i gave it another shot but yeah thats it for me.
over all i was enjoying the game overall except those 2 things. that and the damn quiz. luckily the mod helped with that though.
but yeah anyways good luck dev.
Edit: tried to finish this update at least... the situation with cassandra made it worse.
(edited as i played.) wow and Natacha made it even worse and even if you have an innterest in Lea apparently she'll still do dark deals with clients. in general game is to depressing for me but at least i gave it another shot but yeah thats it for me.
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It's totally true. If on this forum the term NTR is very general it is because it includes all its forms. Here with Emilie, it's Netorase and not Netorare, which means that "the partner is actually wanting and willing to make her to have sex with other people". I don't exclude that there will be Netorare later, but as I already said in another post, it probably won't be with Emilie, because her relationship with the MC makes it incompatible, and that's also why there is no NTR in love route.
They stop and are replaced by no-nude version of the pictures.
Sorry you don't like that and I understand that, but that's the point of the story. The different girls who share the life of the MC have different complications (mostly caused by this organization) and the MC can try to help them or not. It is important in this kind of story to show the stakes and the risks and therefore inevitably it leads to rather dark moments.i dont know man. i dont think this game is for me. to much depressing stuff on the love route. watching the girls get drugged and used at the owners places was bad enough. but now a potential LI is a rape victim? that's usually where i stop. it's the reason i dropped "Rainy Day" same reason ima drop this.
over all i was enjoying the game overall except those 2 things. that and the damn quiz. luckily the mod helped with that though.
but yeah anyways good luck dev.
Edit: tried to finish this update at least... the situation with cassandra made it worse.
(edited as i played.) wow and Natacha made it even worse and even if you have an innterest in Lea apparently she'll still do dark deals with clients. in general game is to depressing for me but at least i gave it another shot but yeah thats it for me.
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hermesh
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Making the nude pics without uploading them might be a nice option for romantic players who still want to do them as part of the relationship ("don't worry Emily, those are just for the two of us"). However i realize this is a lot of extra coding effort for a rather cosmetic immersion difference & i personally play all paths anyway... (being obsessive completionist can lead to some pretty dark places)
At first I thought about doing this (it was a bit of an easy and lazy solution since it didn't require additional rendering), but then I thought it would be weird from a RP point of view if they posted fewer photos if we chose this option (and therefore less potential income for them). And putting both versions (nude and not nude) would be too redundant and would be boring I think for the player.
juan palote
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I just openend the script file to know the answer to the quiz, but i must admit that it breaks the immersion to do so
Sadly, looking the answer in google would also break the immersion and would have taken longer
Sadly, looking the answer in google would also break the immersion and would have taken longer