Ren'Py Amity Park [v1.1.1] [GZone]

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TGafy

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This discussion has me wondering what if it's an unbirthed character. A woman is pregnant throughout the entire story, from start to finish. Will Patreon allow that?
 
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It's a shame what happened, but I'm happy it's not completely over yet. I would gladly welcome a spiritual successor to this. Though I'm guessing no one had contact with Gzone IRL? The fact that he vanished like that is weird, which paints quite a morbid possibility
 
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It won't be these games due to the legal fucker-y surrounding commissions.
It'll be a spirtual successor.

Assuming I take command fully, I'll get to work asap with a clear plan for everyone.
But things are still hazy right now - But if I do take over, I can't forsee a scenario where I didn't get something out.
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What legal fucker-y?

Are you referring to Gzone not paying employees while he or she continued to take in subscriptions?

The only thing relating to a legal issue would be if the copyright / trademark holder of the IP (Nickelodeon) chose to go the route of a cease and desist or worse. That being said, someone (Gzone) would have a very tough time saying they and they alone own AP, when AP is based entirely on someone else's copyrighted or trademarked intellectual property. Art is more of a grey area: you could charge for the time spent to make art of something, but if you have no ownership of the trademark or copyright, that too could could be taken from you and you in turn charged by the IP holder.

Sure, you could be nice about it and ask to take over AP and everything involved with it, to continue the game in the event that Gzone does return. But with anything less than a very clear, logical, non-bullshit reason of ghosting their employees, coworkers, and customers; I'm willing to bet a majority of posters on this forum would vote on Gzone not being involved especially after what occurred.

By your posting on this forum and being upfront with customers on a level that Gzone never has been, you (in my opinion) should have a long discussion with everyone involved (you stated as much already) and force the takeover of AP and not allow Gzone to be involved in any form whatsoever.

It's possible to create a timeline of updates and releases of the other game side by side with AP, and It's interesting how said updates for breeding farm coincided with less updates for AP as well as less conversation from Gzone regarding AP. Clearly, Gzone has shown they lack the ability to manage multiple projects, or even 1 project over a period of time.
 
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Chikabowhow said:
It's a shame what happened, but I'm happy it's not completely over yet. I would gladly welcome a spiritual successor to this. Though I'm guessing no one had contact with Gzone IRL? The fact that he vanished like that is weird, which paints quite a morbid possibility
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he probably took the patreon money and left
 
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mare222 said:
he probably took the patreon money and left
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That would be the dumbest course of action to take IMO. He has two games going on, he'd make much more money by staying and overseeing said games than running away with whatever money patreon had. I don't think that money is enough to cover your whole life if you retire now.
 
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mare222 said:
he probably took the patreon money and left
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I mean... It's not impossible, but it's kinda weird. I feel like he would have a better profit if it he continued working on the game. It's the fact that the rest of the development team had no issues with him that makes it weird because if he was a bad boss, I would have no problem believing he just left with the money
 
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What legal fucker-y?

Are you referring to Gzone not paying employees while he or she continued to take in subscriptions?

The only thing relating to a legal issue would be if the copyright / trademark holder of the IP (Nickelodeon) chose to go the route of a cease and desist or worse. That being said, someone (Gzone) would have a very tough time saying they and they alone own AP, when AP is based entirely on someone else's copyrighted or trademarked intellectual property. Art is more of a grey area: you could charge for the time spent to make art of something, but if you have no ownership of the trademark or copyright, that too could could be taken from you and you in turn charged by the IP holder.

Sure, you could be nice about it and ask to take over AP and everything involved with it, to continue the game in the event that Gzone does return. But with anything less than a very clear, logical, non-bullshit reason of ghosting their employees, coworkers, and customers; I'm willing to bet a majority of posters on this forum would vote on Gzone not being involved especially after what occurred.

By your posting on this forum and being upfront with customers on a level that Gzone never has been, you (in my opinion) should have a long discussion with everyone involved (you stated as much already) and force the takeover of AP and not allow Gzone to be involved in any form whatsoever.

It's possible to create a timeline of updates and releases of the other game side by side with AP, and It's interesting how said updates for breeding farm coincided with less updates for AP as well as less conversation from Gzone regarding AP. Clearly, Gzone has shown they lack the ability to manage multiple projects, or even 1 project over a period of time.
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The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
 
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lostraven said:
The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
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errte13

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Best outcome is Gzone coming back and have a talk with the team before deadline, pay them their due and continue the original games as is. Worst scenario is Gzone is gone, 2 new games need to be made as spiritual successor to AP and BF respectively. Got it.

In the meantime, what will the team be doing? Setting up the spiritual successor games?
 
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lostraven said:
The legal fucker-y refers to the legality around commissioned art, even parody based work stuff like Amity Park.
In short, while he may not own the right to Danny Phantom as an IP, he does own the right to the artworks he's paid commissions in and should he return in X amount of months to find us using his commissioned artwork, it becomes a murky grey which opens the door to legal action.

Not to mention Breeding Farm being a totally original IP, it would cut and dry should we use his commissioned assets and he provides invoices, receipts and texts of verbal agreements (which do have some legal standing in themselves).

However...

He doesn't own the IP of Danny Phantom, thus, we're allowed to make our own parody legally speaking with our own commissioned art.
He also doesn't own the generic idea of a 'monster breeding sim' - So, while we can't use the characters, all in spirit we could make one.

There are more discussions to be had amongst the team and I do have a plan to someone salvage the mess left for me to pick up in a way I feel, while not perfect, will at least be the most pragmatic and best course of action... Can't say more than that for now.

Things are in motion and circumstances/things are changing *very* quickly.
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You're doing an excellent work with parasite black.
I have total trust with the next danny phantom project of yours, just don't forget how much the ghost girls are popular! :)
Now we are waiting for the SubscribeStar page. (y)
 
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bitriper said:
so this game really is dead as a new DP parody game is taking it's place. what's the art gonna look like, because the copycat artstyle of this game is what made it good.
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They didn't write anything in their post about changing the artist or changing the art style for "Dark Dimensions". Most likely the style will remain the same as it was in the last update for Amity Park.
 
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