Ren'Py Amnesia [v0.104 Patreon] [Super Alex]

[Sony676]

That doesn't matter when it comes to the story tho. It's like writing a book for 10 years and when it's finally out on the first page the bad guy is defeated.

The difference is that Amnesia has had a very strong foundation for a very long time that was never properly built upon. The remaster has given it a better direction, but this game won't survive another 5 years without a main course. It's only natural that things are "faster" with the existing foundation. Of course, "fast" can still be defined here, but with the current pacing, there should at least be a sex scene with a main girl in 2025.

 

[tarzan999]

The difference is that Amnesia has had a very strong foundation for a very long time that was never properly built upon. The remaster has given it a better direction, but this game won't survive another 5 years without a main course. It's only natural that things are "faster" with the existing foundation. Of course, "fast" can still be defined here, but with the current pacing, there should at least be a sex scene with a main girl in 2025.

1. Let me remind you of that famous quote 'a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is bad forever'. From your perspective the developer is taking too long to show you the scenes with the characters that you want to see, but from my perspective and especially from the perspective of new players who are discovering this game this is 100% the right pace.

2. I don't see a game with that much quality ever being forgotten about.As long as the developer doesn't abandon it without updates for a year or so it will keep making a lot of money because ton of people love that corruption/incest experience when it's done well.

 

[Sony676]

1. Let me remind you of that famous quote 'a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is bad forever'. From your perspective the developer is taking too long to show you the scenes with the characters that you want to see, but from my perspective and especially from the perspective of new players who are discovering this game this is 100% the right pace.

2. I don't see a game with that much quality ever being forgotten about.As long as the developer doesn't abandon it without updates for a year or so it will keep making a lot of money because ton of people love that corruption/incest experience when it's done well.

Amnesia is anything but rushed. We're well past that point. The remaster has now integrated almost everything from the original, plus new scenes. While your point about new players might be correct, it's also time for SuperAlex to give back to loyal fans and maintain the remaster's current pacing. I never claimed that all three main girls should be hooked up with in one update, but I am certainly of the opinion that a main course should be included this year, given the current pacing. Sure, the dev might have a lot of subscribers, but a large portion of them, along with the remaster, have also expressed that he now has to deliver and not waste another 5 years, as a large portion of the time was wasted.

 

[tarzan999]

Amnesia is anything but rushed. We're well past that point. The remaster has now integrated almost everything from the original, plus new scenes. While your point about new players might be correct, it's also time for SuperAlex to give back to loyal fans and maintain the remaster's current pacing. I never claimed that all three main girls should be hooked up with in one update, but I am certainly of the opinion that a main course should be included this year, given the current pacing. Sure, the dev might have a lot of subscribers, but a large portion of them, along with the remaster, have also expressed that he now has to deliver and not waste another 5 years, as a large portion of the time was wasted.

Everything you say is true to a point, but you can't argue with the fact that this a very well made game that will generate revenue for its developer from existing and future players for years to come so you really need to lack any business instincts to think that the developer needs to do anything just for the sake of it.

As far as I am concerned I would like even more buildup as this dev is clearly great at it, but I also understand that you need to give some payoff to keep the other 50% of fans happy.

 

[Sony676]

Everything you say is true to a point, but you can't argue with the fact that this a very well made game that will generate revenue for its developer from existing and future players for years to come so you really need to lack any business instincts to think that the developer needs to do anything just for the sake of it.

As far as I am concerned I would like even more buildup as this dev is clearly great at it, but I also understand that you need to give some payoff to keep the other 50% of fans happy.

I admit, that one statement of mine was a bit exaggerated. Since SuperAlex delivers some of the best output in terms of aesthetics, there will naturally always be a market for it. You're right about that.

I even think it's smart that he integrated AI early on alongside his own animations, because I'm quite sure it will give him an advantage in the long run to gain experience now.

I'm also significantly more satisfied with the remaster than with the original so far, but let's see in which direction it moves.

 

[tarzan999]

I admit, that one statement of mine was a bit exaggerated. Since SuperAlex delivers some of the best output in terms of aesthetics, there will naturally always be a market for it. You're right about that.

I even think it's smart that he integrated AI early on alongside his own animations, because I'm quite sure it will give him an advantage in the long run to gain experience now.

I'm also significantly more satisfied with the remaster than with the original so far, but let's see in which direction it moves.

Games like this one give me high hopes for the usage of AI in the future. In the right hands it makes quality content that would have been too expensive/time consuming in the past.

 

[Musttaffa]

Ever played Fable 3? Not exactly a great game but had an amazing concept. The idea was that once you became king, that was only the halfway mark through the game. The rest of the game was what you did with that power. While Fable 3 didn't exactly follow through with that but the idea is there. That's how this game should be, especially as long as it's been out. Having sex with them shouldn't be the last thing you do in these games. It should be the halfway point, then the rest of the game is all of the shenanigans you and the girls can get up to: different positions, 3 or 4 ways, different locations, etc. I say it again, having sex with the main family girls should not be the end all be all.

Здравствуйте. Я тоже считаю, что Амнезия должна быть именно такой. Ненавижу когда мамочку подносят на блюдечке в самом конце игры (и обычно это просто "пшик - ничего особенного") и закругляют проект. Это ужасно и с меня хватит таких разочарований.

Hello. I also believe that Amnesia should be exactly like this. I can’t stand it when the mom is simply handed to you on a silver platter at the very end of the game (and usually it’s just a “meh – nothing special”), and then the project wraps up. It’s awful, and I’ve had enough of those kinds of disappointments.
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1. Let me remind you of that famous quote 'a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is bad forever'. From your perspective the developer is taking too long to show you the scenes with the characters that you want to see, but from my perspective and especially from the perspective of new players who are discovering this game this is 100% the right pace.

2. I don't see a game with that much quality ever being forgotten about.As long as the developer doesn't abandon it without updates for a year or so it will keep making a lot of money because ton of people love that corruption/incest experience when it's done well.

Тут я тоже согласен. Полностью правильная взрослая позиция... Раньше, я тоже хотел как-то поторопить Супер Алекса, но теперь я рад, что он стоит на своём. Худшее, что можно было сделать - начать плясать под чужую дудку.

I agree with you here as well. That’s a completely correct, mature stance. I used to want to somehow push Super Alex to hurry things up, but now I’m glad he’s sticking to his guns. The worst thing he could’ve done was start dancing to someone else’s tune.
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I admit, that one statement of mine was a bit exaggerated. Since SuperAlex delivers some of the best output in terms of aesthetics, there will naturally always be a market for it. You're right about that.

I even think it's smart that he integrated AI early on alongside his own animations, because I'm quite sure it will give him an advantage in the long run to gain experience now.

I'm also significantly more satisfied with the remaster than with the original so far, but let's see in which direction it moves.

Думаю, что после этого обновления станет более чётко видно, какие плоды приносит искусственный интеллект. И вы буквально процитировали мои слова, когда я уговаривал Супер Алекса попробовать его в игре. Если бы мы этого не сделали, то я бы не смог работать в нём и как-то развиваться. Ведь его нужно чувствовать и работать с ним каждый день, чтобы знания закреплялись.

I think that after this update, it will become much clearer what kind of results artificial intelligence can bring. And you practically quoted my exact words from when I was persuading Super Alex to try using it in the game. If we hadn’t done that, I wouldn’t have been able to work with it and grow in that area. After all, you need to get a feel for it and work with it every day for the knowledge to really stick.
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[Musttaffa]

When the new update coming out?

Сейчас я заканчиваю с анимациями для Елены и мне понадобится ещё пара анимаций для одной из главных героинь (итого ~дня 3). Только после этого я начну полировать переходы и добавлять анимации в игру. Помимо этого, может понадобиться неделя или чуть больше, на полировку всего остального не касающегося визуала. Думаю, что это будет точно вторая половина месяца, а при менее удачных обстоятельствах - ближе к концу.

Right now, I’m wrapping up Elena’s animations, and I’ll still need a couple more animations for one of the main heroines (about three more days in total). Only after that will I start polishing the transitions and adding the animations into the game. On top of that, I might need a week or a bit more to polish everything else that isn’t visual. I’m sure this will land in the second half of the month, and if things don’t go quite as well as I’d like — closer to the end of the month.
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[AbdelAdrian]

I respect your point of view, but I absolutely don't give a damn when, where, and under what circumstances MC fucks his stepmom and his stepsisters. There is sex in the game, and it is perfectly staged from the point of view of the director. As for incest, I don't care about it. If this is your fetish, I respect it, but nothing more. There are games that have been in development for 8 YEARS OLD and to this day their development has not been completed. The games have become a kind of cult, I have no right to call them according to the existing norms of the forum, but I think that many will understand what we are talking about.

Have you thought about what you are writing?
Although the dev avoids this as much as he can... THIS IS A STORY OF INCEST IN THE FAMILY !!!.
Financial considerations took precedence over the truth. Some people don't believe that it's not true, or like you, they tell themselves fairy tales. Without incest, this story is a bunch of bullshit.
Without changes we have a landlady and three roommates here.
All over the world in ANY situation if the tenant stops paying rent the reaction is one from the homeowner...
KICK-ASS-DOOR.
The landlady may allow the payment to be delayed for a short period of time if she trusts and likes the tenant.
But the end is always the same... get the fuck out if you don't pay.
It's logical, it's her job and source of income, not a fucking hobby.
But in this Neverland the landlady sells all the valuable things from the house so that the strange asshole
can lie peacefully in the hospital.
What's more! She disrespects the other tenants by making them pay for everything they lack.
Do you think that anything here makes sense? The situation changes when we're dealing with family.
Such sacrifices are commonplace. Unless we are dealing with a dysfunctional family.
BUT ONLY IN THE CASE OF FAMILY DOES THIS SITUATION MAKE SENSE !!!
But in the game, and in the old one and in the new version family relationships are optional and made incredibly stupid.
MC and the others refer to their mother by name in their conversations.
For something like that you get a slap in the face from your mother.
So don't tell you don't care about incest in the game.
Unless you like being lied to and swallow every nonsense, even if is as stupid as abyss.

 

[Musttaffa]

Don't mind him; this Tarzan dude definitely needs professional help, and the reason is not just because he defends this game with all his might but because of the immense amount of made up absolutely brain-dead, delusional, childish, empty bullshit (just read what he writes to others in this thread) he writes here in hopes of justifying this scamming, time-wasting game with a pathetic beta MC and almost every character who is full of shit and cheap drama for simps just to provoke naive players to keep interest for a very long time

More than 5 years of development, and players still can't clearly see in what direction things move in this game; jokes write themself)

It's already clear what kind of results it brought. In one of the scenes animated by AI, the black-haired sister took off her t-shirt and in the process of taking it off, it transformed into a red shapeless fabric, and Dev just left it as it is without any care in the world. And all the other AI animations is embarrassingly bad too. AI work in this game is even shittier than what amateurs can do after an hour of playing with AI service by themselfs.

Once again, the game is more than 5 YEARS OLD. To whom are you trying to sell this bullshit about a silver platter? Lol) Also, I would like to hear from you about at least a few decent games where the mother/main milf figure got to actual sex from the beginning?)

1. Омерзительно отвечать на сообщение. автор которого не уважает других пользователей, их мнение и в целом создаёт негативную повестку. Наверняка, если бы я был под властью этого человека, прислушивался к нему и делал всё, что он говорит - Амнезия была бы заброшена ровно с этого мгновения. Поэтому, мне не остается другого выхода, кроме как начать игнорировать. Я не вижу в твоих сообщениях здравого смысла. Я не вижу в твоих сообщениях здравого посыла. Не вижу в них доброжелательности. Это просто хейт.

It’s disgusting to even respond to a message from someone who doesn’t respect other users, their opinions, and generally spreads negativity. I’m certain that if I were under this person’s influence, listened to them, and did everything they said — Amnesia would be abandoned from that very moment. That’s why I have no choice but to start ignoring you. I don’t see any common sense in your messages. I don’t see any constructive point in them. I don’t see any goodwill. It’s just pure hate.
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2. Если вам уже всё понятно, по какой-то там анимации, которую мы сделали на начальном этапе перехода игры от 3D к AI, то уверяю, что ваше решение опрометчиво. Но, честно говоря я не хочу, чтобы конкретно вы меняли своё мнение. Иногда, лучше просто отпустить человека, чем пытаться его удержать. И мне кажется, что это именно про вас.

If you’ve already made up your mind based on some early-stage animation we created during the game’s transition from 3D to AI, then I assure you — your judgment is hasty. But honestly, I don’t want you, specifically, to change your opinion. Sometimes it’s better to just let a person go rather than try to hold on to them. And I feel like that’s exactly the case with you.
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3. Я никому не пытаюсь ничего продавать. Это вы пытаетесь здесь и сейчас продать мне слона, при покупке которого, я должен буду каждый раз когда вы на него взберетесь, - охлаждать ваше превосходительство каким-нибудь огромным лепестком пальмы или что там обычно используют. А если серьезно, то я готов обсуждать претензии к анимациям в игре только в том случае, при которых предъявляющий претензии пользователь готов предложить их решение. Иначе, мы просто погрязнем в претензиях, но никто не будет знать, как их решать.


I’m not trying to sell anything to anyone. You’re the one trying to sell me an elephant here and now — and once I’ve bought it, I’d apparently have to cool Your Excellency down every time you climbed on top of it, with some huge palm frond or whatever people usually use.
But seriously, I’m only willing to discuss complaints about the game’s animations if the person making them is also ready to suggest a solution. Otherwise, we’ll just drown in complaints without anyone knowing how to actually fix them.
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[Musttaffa]

And? Did I ask you if you give a damn about it? Or told you that you personally should give a damn? Only God knows what the reason was for telling me this...

MC fucks only twice, and what a shitty scenes they are for anyone with self-respect and dignity. First with a cheating girlfriend, who betrayed you, right after you saved her like a white-knight loser from her own poor life choices, and the second one was MC being actually raped like a little bitch. Wow! Such a great and decent amount of content for more than 5 years of milking, kek)

Lol) Who's going to tell him that this game's main focus, reason, and goal is to fuck MC's step-family or whatever term just to not get blocked on milking platforms. MC's family has the most screen time, the main stage in the plot, and the most influence on the story. Even setting work in their favor. I thought it was kind of absolutely obvious) And Dev perfectly knows it; that's why there's been close to 0 content with them for all this time, or you know, actually any kind of content. 90% of the content is braindead teasing and groping, it's pathetic.

Another part of unnecessary and useless info. How does someone else's milking justify milking and scamming in this game? Rhetorical question...

Another part of unnecessary and useless info.

 

[tarzan999]

Don't mind him; this Tarzan dude definitely needs professional help, and the reason is not just because he defends this game with all his might but because of the immense amount of made up absolutely brain-dead, delusional, childish, empty bullshit (just read what he writes to others in this thread) he writes here in hopes of justifying this scamming, time-wasting game with a pathetic beta MC and almost every character who is full of shit and cheap drama for simps just to provoke naive players to keep interest for a very long time

So this game is immensely successful and the product if played for the first time by a new player is paced perfectly, but you are calling my arguments brain dead despite being supported by reality itself?

I think that you are just a bit clueless in general. Hopefully you are one of those people who discovered this site at an early age, because if you are not... yikes.

 

[Musttaffa]

I respect your point of view, but I absolutely don't give a damn when, where, and under what circumstances MC fucks his stepmom and his stepsisters. There is sex in the game, and it is perfectly staged from the point of view of the director. As for incest, I don't care about it. If this is your fetish, I respect it, but nothing more. There are games that have been in development for 8 YEARS OLD and to this day their development has not been completed. The games have become a kind of cult, I have no right to call them according to the existing norms of the forum, but I think that many will understand what we are talking about.

Думаю, что уважения с этого пользователя достаточно. На мой взгляд он не заслуживает его. По меньшей мере из-за того, что он неуважителен к окружающим.

I think this user has received enough respect. In my view, they don’t deserve any more — at the very least because they show no respect toward others.
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[int00h]

i must have missed something

 

[Foxara71]

Congratulations to the author of the game, he managed to kill an exceptionally excellent game. Now it is absolutely hacky, ugly and meaningless neural network crap.

 

[tarzan999]

Congratulations to the author of the game, he managed to kill an exceptionally excellent game. Now it is absolutely hacky, ugly and meaningless neural network crap.

I think that the dev has utterly failed at killing this game personally. The scenes with the dark haired sister are peak incest/corruption content.

 

[Musttaffa]

Чувак, я буду честен: если ты из команды разработчиков, то я скажу тебе, что искренне считаю вас кучкой

Мне не интересно читать дальше этой фразы. И я тоже тебя считаю, маленькой кучкой... обид и разочарований. пока, малыш

I’m not interested in reading past that sentence. And I also see you as a little pile… of grudges and disappointments. Bye-bye, kid.
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[Foxara71]

I think that the dev has utterly failed at killing this game personally. The scenes with the dark haired sister are peak incest/corruption content.

It is clear that this is a matter of taste in any case. If you like it when characters in poor AI inserts look absolutely nothing like their models, well, that is entirely your right. I will reserve the right to condemn such a position All the best to you, enjoy this crap, if you like it.

 

[tarzan999]

It is clear that this is a matter of taste in any case. If you like it when characters in poor AI inserts look absolutely nothing like their models, well, that is entirely your right. I will reserve the right to condemn such a position All the best to you, enjoy this crap, if you like it.

I think that calling this game crap is a bit of a stretch. The graphics are still in the top 10%. And to be fair the only scenes I liked and remember are with the dark haired sister so maybe the other characters had worse AI art. The face of the blonde sister was weird even before the remake tho. She looks like they just shrank one of the adult characters from the previous game.

 

[Foxara71]

I think that calling this game crap is a bit of a stretch. The graphics are still in the top 10%. And to be fair the only scenes I liked and remember are with the dark haired sister so maybe the other characters had worse AI art. The face of the blonde sister was weird even before the remake tho. She looks like they just shrunk one of the adult characters from the previous game.

Yes, absolute crap. As great as it was before the remaster, it became just as pathetic and disgusting after it. The disappointment of the year, at the very least. From one of the best projects, the update of which I really waited for and was ready to wait a long time, understanding how labor-intensive it is to make something really good, they made a hasty, hackneyed piece of crap, similar to which there are already millions on the Internet. The dude above was absolutely right, talking about scammers. Now I feel extremely sorry for the people who supported the authors of this crap with money in the hope of continuing to receive excellent quality content.