RPGM An Alchemist's Tale [3.2 Alpha] [Captain Allegretto Games]

[kark]

Some thoughts about the game:

-Like some user said, minigames are annoy. the worst without doubt is the fish minigame.
-I hope the game go well, i saw the subscribestar post and they are one year old. I hope its now when the game start developing seriously because there are no much content in the game yet even after that much time.
-I hope the dev takes care of the little things to make the game more... easy to enjoy. For example, you have to talk to the bird around 7 or more times. For that, you have to go to her place outside the town, therefore, you have to walk there EVERY TIME, in the top of that, looks like some times she is not there or even the whole day.
The travel cant be this tedious, if at least you have an excuse to go there to do other things like a quest to get money, or to talk with someone else. I actually played recently a game where the mc walked pretty fast and i loved it, maybe adding it at least as an option would be nice.
Even more, traveling to the centaur farm is the hell of annoy. Simply too far, no even straight way.

Well with that said, i really really like this game, things are well explained to know what to do, you even have the gallery to get tips of how to get the scenes and in general its a well made game.
It has some problems but i understand this is in early stage, even i bet the fish minigame is just unfinished rather than just bad design.
About minigames i hope the dev add a skip option or/and make them just something special, i can enjoy a challenge but do the same challenge 5 times for the mushrooms is too much.

Bugs:
- I found one the first time i talked with the old man with his wife, looks like the script stopped suddenly and the game didnt advance. (never happens again)
-When i talk with the mayor to help with her stuff (for second time), the game just bug and ask for f5.

 

[Captain_Allegretto]

Ignoring the bulk of this as asked and answered. Making me restate the same thing over and over because you don't like the answer won't change it. I even made aittle decision tree and specifically noted which sections are unavoidable but slippage and completely avoidable.

My question about this character, since you said in THIS release. Implies there might be other outcomes here, will you actually be able to prevent this from happening, I don't mean skip it by ignoring the sounds. Because right now it is objectively unavoidable ntr already, literally just ignoring the fact you hear her getting raped, means it happens. What I'm asking, can you actively prevent the orc from cucking you so it doesn't happen period, not off screen, not at all. Since it basically looks like the orc sexually ruins the harpy, with her literal log for a cock.

Other questions about the orc, you mentioned transformations? Is there going to be an option to remove the dick if there isn't an option for that. Can we just tell this horrible cunt to fuck off and leave the game. Because unless there is an option to remove her cock and literally humiliate her and enslave her. Otherwise I want nothing to do with her, why the hell would I want someone with a bigger dick than the player around the harem and also blantantly better sexually than the player character around the harem.

As for questions about the player, will the player have transformation options, can the player get a bigger dick or tentacles or something? Since its clear at this point he needs some sort of edge.

A) the harpy isn't being raped. The scene is concentual. MC makes note of that specifically at the outset and Green has a known safeword. Apples.

Secondly I guess you miss the part where Allen like, specifically says "well Green did tell me this is how things will work out here and not to be mad about it if I was interested I'm her so I guess I'll just see how this lands" At this point in the game Green is not in a relationship with you. She just let's you fuck her if you can prove your stronger. But man. I wonder if there was some kind of way to prove you're SOO strong that she SHOULD be in a committed relationship with you. Maybe some other strong character you can completely subjugate. Fuck that would be super convenient. It would even make sense if they had some kind of history together too... nah seems like too much work.

B) Zeleshi will not be removing her dick. But her storyline is a choice about either becoming her sub or her dom. If you don't like futa content don't do her storyline or. Again. Just don't play this game.

C) oh yea Allen will have big dick, knotted, horse, and vag options. The kind of thing where if you have the potion in inventory you can trigger a different scene. Huge load potions too. Looking forward to those ones.

 

[Captain_Allegretto]

Some thoughts about the game:

-Like some user said, minigames are annoy. the worst without doubt is the fish minigame.
-I hope the game go well, i saw the subscribestar post and they are one year old. I hope its now when the game start developing seriously because there are no much content in the game yet even after that much time.
-I hope the dev takes care of the little things to make the game more... easy to enjoy. For example, you have to talk to the bird around 7 or more times. For that, you have to go to her place outside the town, therefore, you have to walk there EVERY TIME, in the top of that, looks like some times she is not there or even the whole day.
The travel cant be this tedious, if at least you have an excuse to go there to do other things like a quest to get money, or to talk with someone else. I actually played recently a game where the mc walked pretty fast and i loved it, maybe adding it at least as an option would be nice.
Even more, traveling to the centaur farm is the hell of annoy. Simply too far, no even straight way.

Well with that said, i really really like this game, things are well explained to know what to do, you even have the gallery to get tips of how to get the scenes and in general its a well made game.
It has some problems but i understand this is in early stage, even i bet the fish minigame is just unfinished rather than just bad design.
About minigames i hope the dev add a skip option or/and make them just something special, i can enjoy a challenge but do the same challenge 5 times for the mushrooms is too much.

Bugs:
- I found one the first time i talked with the old man with his wife, looks like the script stopped suddenly and the game didnt advance. (never happens again)
-When i talk with the mayor to help with her stuff (for second time), the game just bug and ask for f5.

That's great feedback!

First of all covid was very rough. Dev stopped for while. I had a child and I couldn't commission art or justify working on it even if I had the time. Now works good again and life is real and I can have this hobby again.

Fishing minigame is a recent add with no quest significance yet so yes its unpolished at the moment. The intention is for the first fishing pole to be shit and for the shopkeeper to bait new better ones over your head (while raising thebprice and offering discounts) For the others minigames I'll see what I can do. I definitely havmt taken a solid look at the axe one since I first began and I doubt it's near what I can polish it too.

I'm definitely hearing lots of feedback about speed in messages and walking. Gonna do a QOL pass on these. I have a couple ideas honestly how to get message skipping to not break my VN dolls.

Also i agree my pacing is a bit fucked. IM realizing that doing character plots in a tunnel fashion caused there to be that lack of surrounding content yours describing. There's too much wait between scenes. Luckily this will be crazy east for me to fix up. Those are just dials I can mess with.

For the bugs I'll have to sit and investigate them.

 

[Ragingrager]

Ignoring the bulk of this as asked and answered. Making me restate the same thing over and over because you don't like the answer won't change it. I even made aittle decision tree and specifically noted which sections are unavoidable but slippage and completely avoidable.

Its a yes or no question, the reason why I asked was because you seem to have a different definition of ntr. If you go for the cure, do the girls get fucked off screen. Yes or no. That literally all people are trying to figure out and trust me you aren't clear here.

Secondly I guess you miss the part where Allen like, specifically says "well Green did tell me this is how things will work out here and not to be mad about it if I was interested I'm her so I guess I'll just see how this lands" At this point in the game Green is not in a relationship with you. She just let's you fuck her if you can prove your stronger. But man. I wonder if there was some kind of way to prove you're SOO strong that she SHOULD be in a committed relationship with you. Maybe some other strong character you can completely subjugate. Fuck that would be super convenient. It would even make sense if they had some kind of history together too... nah seems like too much work.

Except you're ignoring the clear guilt she has in the scene itself, the fact the main character is stunned by what happens and the general tone of the scene. If she didn't have some sort of relationship with you, she wouldn't say say shit in an apologetic tone during the scene. She literally seems sorry its happen and says he promised to not be mad, which I actually don't remember that ever happening. The scene itself implies NTR because it is literally shitting on you the player character in every possible way. The only reason to do this, is to imply jealousy ie NTR. But once again you're not answering my question, I'm just trying to get straight answers here. Are we going to be able prevent this scene from happening, I don't mean skip it, I mean make sure that the orc never fucks her period, stopping the player from being cucked by her.

Zeleshi will not be removing her dick. But her storyline is a choice about either becoming her sub or her dom. If you don't like futa content don't do her storyline or. Again. Just don't play this game.

Okay will there be an option to just kick her ass and tell her to fuck off so we don't have to do her storyline to progress the game.

C) oh yea Allen will have big dick, knotted, horse, and vag options. The kind of thing where if you have the potion in inventory you can trigger a different scene. Huge load potions too. Looking forward to those ones.

Okay that sounds interesting at least the non vag option, hopefully there is an option to just make the changes permanent until he uses another potion.

 

[Robert Paulson]

Which and why? What makes them feel awful to you more specifically? Can't improve them without some substance as to what causes a bad experience.

Chasing a mushroom around then having to enter the fucking Konami code without messing up a single time in a limited time is brutal. Either get rid of the chase or get rid of the up up down down left right left right bullshit. No reason to have both annoyances. I'm trying to play a porn game here not Parappa the Rapper.

 

[Kazaim]

This is coming from someone who also enjoys NTR.

First of all. The maps, distance and paths are incredibly tedious and long. Why this? Either shorten this down significantly or/and open up more straighter paths that leads to places of notice and importance.

Having to go to the Harpy this many times just to check in, especially when mornings are kind of important, also in the case you want more bait is tedious as well.

The fucking minigames is god-tier awful. Let's be honest here. Cut it out. I didn't come here to play Minigames inside a game, when they clearly aren't designed to be enjoyable, just a waste of time. It's almost like creating a lockpick minigame that where you fail, gotta reload save or reload map. That's a big fuck you to anyone wanting to play this and move the Quests forward.

When it comes to all the NTR complaints. You'll never ever satisfy anyone, especially cause people think NTR in any form is divisive, when it's just another fucking Fetish/Kink like any other. But your error was to not clearly in big red letters that NTR content was unavoidable, no matter how much amount or specifics. It's best to make your message come clear and concise. Since this is the only way to not get these screeching creatures come at you and you have no actual argument since you didn't make your point of a Fetish/Kink they clearly treat as haram, and even if they don't bother checking Page 1 Top, their argument falls apart once you have your big red letters of warning and there's no reason to have a conversation on the matter. That's all i have to say on it.

Also. That Ash lady is ugly as fuck. Let's not treat being pudgy, fat or chubby as a good thing. It's unhealthy and being a warrior like that is almost nigh impossible, even in a fantasy setting. Because gravity, weight and science says all that flesh will get in your way to even reach your back, much less slow your down and make you less flexible. This is some weird woke crap they wanted to say it's good being fat. Now, i'm fine with people having a fetish in this and all that or whatever. But deluding oneself and others is attempting to convince this is ok, especially in a military/combat manner.

The artwork makes the female characters, or at least a decent amount of them make them look a lot more masculine, especially combined with the weird short hairs (or lack thereof) is odd and off-putting. Bilia is an ok in my book, she is after all, a Guard/Soldier. Fighting with hair flowing in your fucking face and being meek is not a good thing if you gonna fight (minus having a way of keeping your hair away from your front/face).

Oh yeah. Before i forget. This isn't a light hearted game. That's bullshit, and i'd respect you more if you'd stop trying to convince yourself and everyone of that.

That's all i have to say for now. I wish you the best and congrats becoming a parent. I'll keep an eye on this project, hopefully your vision of it comes to fruition and you also enjoy it.

 

[Captain_Allegretto]

Dude you don't care. I've been as clear as day. Wrote a full decision tree for the end of the game plot answering the question clearly enough for everybody else.

Just ignore this one and play somthing else. Or better. Write a porn game and spend a bunch of money buying art for it that's exactly what YOU want it to be. That's what I did.

 

[Ragingrager]

Dude you don't care. I've been as clear as day. Wrote a full decision tree for the end of the game plot answering the question clearly enough for everybody else.

Just ignore this one and play somthing else. Or better. Write a porn game and spend a bunch of money buying art for it that's exactly what YOU want it to be. That's what I did.

If I didn't care, I wouldn't be asking. I'm literally just try to get a straight answer out of you for two questions. Can we avoid the girls being fucked, and can we stop the orc girl from fucking her. I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of just answering yes or no to the questions. I'm not trying to shit on you, I'm not trying to antagonize you. I'm trying to make this as simple as possible. I'm legit sorry if I'm frustrating you on this, it is not my intention. But statements you have made can go either way on certain aspects.

This is coming from someone who also enjoys NTR.



When it comes to all the NTR complaints. You'll never ever satisfy anyone, especially cause people think NTR in any form is divisive, when it's just another fucking Fetish/Kink like any other. But your error was to not clearly in big red letters that NTR content was unavoidable, no matter how much amount or specifics. It's best to make your message come clear and concise. Since this is the only way to not get these screeching creatures come at you and you have no actual argument since you didn't make your point of a Fetish/Kink they clearly treat as haram, and even if they don't bother checking Page 1 Top, their argument falls apart once you have your big red letters of warning and there's no reason to have a conversation on the matter. That's all i have to say on it.

Actually its very easy. You make it 100% avoidable and people get over it, everything else you said is also correct if it really is unavoidable.

 

[Kazaim]

If I didn't care, I wouldn't be asking. I'm literally just try to get a straight answer out of you for two questions. Can we avoid the girls being fucked, and can we stop the orc girl from fucking her. I don't know why you're making such a big deal out of just answering yes or no to the questions.

Actually its very easy. You make it 100% avoidable and people get over it, everything else you said is also correct if it really is unavoidable.

Ok. So.

It can be easy. However, i've played a lot of stuff that has had the tag "NTR" in it, which often can be in different meanings. This being ABC or C2. Then Netori. There's also Sub-Sub Categories, such as Mystery Netorare.

I think what we're all seeing isn't necessarily exclusively Netorare or Netori. He's trying to give far too much freedom and choices, doing that makes seeing a tag, such as NTR. Very difficult to comprehend the different variations and types. Therefore, it's confusing if not straight out difficult to kind of understand where he's going with it. When you make something, having a very specific identity and staying to a set amount of genres, and not having a Tag/Genre that can really go multiple ways and also induce different ways of feeling and results can get far too much. While i may respect someone with big ambitions and openess. You also have to keep in mind that your identify of your project, as much as it's contents are gonna be difficult to either like or comprehend, much less consume.

When it comes to the Avoid or Unavoidable. It is Unavoidable. He explained it earlier, that YOU DO NOT SEE IT HAPPENING IF YOU DON'T GO THERE WHEN YOU HEAR PLAPPING TOWARDS THE GROVE. He made that statement clear. Now, this means without the MCs knowledge, if you do not go there to the Grove, you do not see the scene despite it happening. It seems the Orc Futa indeed has a relationship with the Harpy, and probably for far longer then you realize. This eliminates the whole "Stealing loved ones" concept of NTR. You're just a dude, that stumbled upon someone you fancy, when that individual is already having a sexual relationship, even to your dismay, with someone else. Let's shut up about the "NTR" right there. That there, only means by all basic bitch sense "Jealousy". Whether bigger, stronger, better or whatever excuse.

If you can't at this point accept this. I don't know what to say to convince you anymore.

 

[Ragingrager]

Ok. So.

It can be easy. However, i've played a lot of stuff that has had the tag "NTR" in it, which often can be in different meanings. This being ABC or C2. Then Netori. There's also Sub-Sub Categories, such as Mystery Netorare.

I think what we're all seeing isn't necessarily exclusively Netorare or Netori. He's trying to give far too much freedom and choices, doing that makes seeing a tag, such as NTR. Very difficult to comprehend the different variations and types. Therefore, it's confusing if not straight out difficult to kind of understand where he's going with it. When you make something, having a very specific identity and staying to a set amount of genres, and not having a Tag/Genre that can really go multiple ways and also induce different ways of feeling and results can get far too much. While i may respect someone with big ambitions and openess. You also have to keep in mind that your identify of your project, as much as it's contents are gonna be difficult to either like or comprehend, much less consume.

When it comes to the Avoid or Unavoidable. It is Unavoidable. He explained it earlier, that YOU DO NOT SEE IT HAPPENING IF YOU DON'T GO THERE WHEN YOU HEAR PLAPPING TOWARDS THE GROVE. He made that statement clear. Now, this means without the MCs knowledge, if you do not go there to the Grove, you do not see the scene despite it happening. It seems the Orc Futa indeed has a relationship with the Harpy, and probably for far longer then you realize. This eliminates the whole "Stealing loved ones" concept of NTR. You're just a dude, that stumbled upon someone you fancy, when that individual is already having a sexual relationship, even to your dismay, with someone else. Let's shut up about the "NTR" right there. That there, only means by all basic bitch sense "Jealousy". Whether bigger, stronger, better or whatever excuse.

If you can't at this point accept this. I don't know what to say to convince you anymore.

The reason why I ask, is because he made statements that could imply that might be different with another release and also one of his replies to me. But he keeps mixing up skippable vs avoidable. Literally all I'm asking for is. Yes you can prevent her from fucking her off screen, or no you can't. I honestly don't see the problem and just say yes or no to this unless you're trying to mislead people that are going to be upset about it still happening regardless of the player doing. Just be clear, no you will never have the option to stop the orc from cucking you, or yes there will be an option to make sure this scene didn't happen off screen. Thats all I wanted to know and he doesn't want to answer for some reason.

Hell the only reason any of this discussion is happening is because its not entirely clear because he used avoidable to mean skippable potentially at one point. Like you mentioned earlier, if you can't stop it from happening period then the decription of the first page should just say. Unavoidable ntr , and the questions would drop dramatically.

 

[Kazaim]

The reason why I ask, is because he made statements that could imply that might be different with another release and also one of his replies to me. But he keeps mixing up skippable vs avoidable. Literally all I'm asking for is. Yes you can prevent her from fucking her off screen, or no you can't. I honestly don't see the problem and just say yes or no to this unless you're trying to mislead people that are going to be upset about it still happening regardless of the player doing. Just be clear, no you will never have the option to stop the orc from cucking you, or yes there will be an option to make sure this scene didn't happen off screen. Thats all I wanted to know and he doesn't want to answer for some reason.

He already answered. If you weren't paying attention to the description and previous comments. He made it very clear.

These things are happening, outside of the MCs control. The Avoidable, only means you can choose to NOT see it if you try to actively avoid even the biggest warnings. All the Scenes, seems more or less to happen completely void of your control.

You control the MC. You can affect the MC, and MC can more or less interact with other Characters and maybe at some point have a scene with them. In other words. You're simply playing MC and MC can only affect what he can in real-time change or do something about. Devoid of anything that has happened or is happening outside of his personal ability to affect anything. Very much like real life, i'd say.

 

[Deleted member 492881]

looks good but need at least 1 year of releases

 

[the_fluff]

I appreciate the upfrontness of the NTR and laying it out on the table. Not my thing but I hope you do well with your game. Or maybe I will come back after a while if there is a power reversal situation because while I do hate netorare I love being able to turn the tides so who knows. For now I'l keep it on watched. And also wondering if you have an idea of how frequently you will be updating.

 

[Ragingrager]

He already answered. If you weren't paying attention to the description and previous comments. He made it very clear.

These things are happening, outside of the MCs control. The Avoidable, only means you can choose to NOT see it if you try to actively avoid even the biggest warnings. All the Scenes, seems more or less to happen completely void of your control.

You control the MC. You can affect the MC, and MC can more or less interact with other Characters and maybe at some point have a scene with them. In other words. You're simply playing MC and MC can only affect what he can in real-time change or do something about. Devoid of anything that has happened or is happening outside of his personal ability to affect anything. Very much like real life, i'd say.

B)Help (NOT NTR)
Regardless of choice above:

He shouldn't be using the word avoidable then, but the part that confuses even what you're saying is the quote here. Which says help, not ntr. If you're still getting cucked off screen, how is that not still ntr. You're still being ntr'd if its happening off screen, but you don't see it. Hence why I was just looking for a straight answer of yes or no to the questions. Also he specifies for the orc, to AVOID it in this release, don't go there. But that implies in a different release, there would be another option. Anyways, he's refusing to clarify and we are just guessing at his intent at this point. I'm guessing that you're correct, but he doesn't want to confirm that for some reason. If you're correct, and its all skippable, not avoidable then that should basically be in big red letters. If it were that clear, I certainly wouldn't be asking any of these questions, most of the ntr discussion in the thread would be gone. It would just be the one guy that comes in and asks if its avoidable because he ignored the op.

 

[Kazaim]

He shouldn't be using the word avoidable then, but the part that confuses even what you're saying is the quote here. Which says help, not ntr. If you're still getting cucked off screen, how is that not still ntr. You're still being ntr'd if its happening off screen, but you don't see it. Hence why I was just looking for a straight answer of yes or not to the questions. Also he specifiess for the orc, to AVOID it in this release, don't go there. But that implies in a different release, there would be another option. Anyways, he's refusing to clarify and we are just guessing at his intent at this point.

It is starting to feel like you're just trolling at this point.

Let me make it clear in the short words possible (minus the fact this is an Alpha and choices would increase for different scenes)

There IS NO CUCKING. You don't HAVE a romantic relationship with the fucking Harpy. You know her, MC fancy her and wants to hang out and listen to her sing, research her (he implied her body and wings he wanted to look at) and probably more. IF you saw the scene, it seems, by any human being capable of using their grey matter. Orc Futa and Harpy had a relationship long before you, the MC, was a fucking number in the math. In short.

You know her. She knows you. There's no spark there, yet. And before there even was a genuine spark, she was, for however long prior to MC, fucking the Orc. If you see them in the Grove. It is implied, that yes, she didn't want you to see it at first. Orc Futa is like "The fuck are you? Where'd you come from? Eh, i'm busy. Ignore the weirdo.".

Have i made it clear now? If not. I don't wanna bother anymore. Seems like you live in a weird fantasy bubble or just trolling.

 

[Ragingrager]

It is starting to feel like you're just trolling at this point.

Let me make it clear in the short words possible (minus the fact this is an Alpha and choices would increase for different scenes)

There IS NO CUCKING. You don't HAVE a romantic relationship with the fucking Harpy. You know her, MC fancy her and wants to hang out and listen to her sing, research her (he implied her body and wings he wanted to look at) and probably more. IF you saw the scene, it seems, by any human being capable of using their grey matter. Orc Futa and Harpy had a relationship long before you, the MC, was a fucking number in the math. In short.

You know her. She knows you. There's no spark there, yet. And before there even was a genuine spark, she was, for however long prior to MC, fucking the Orc. If you see them in the Grove. It is implied, that yes, she didn't want you to see it at first. Orc Futa is like "The fuck are you? Where'd you come from? Eh, i'm busy. Ignore the weirdo.".

Have i made it clear now? If not. I don't wanna bother anymore. Seems like you live in a weird fantasy bubble or just trolling.

I'm not trolling and most of my post was referring to the end game stuff was he was talking about. But you do have a romantic relationship with her by the time the scene happens, its basically just the start of one. But you've building relationship points with her, fucking her, if that scene had happened the very first moment they met and most of her knowing the mcs name was removed. Then I would agree, but that quest line is a clear start of the relationship and intention to romance the character the way its designed and also the scene itself is designed to clearly be NTR. The very fact it literally only happens after you've started to get to know this character and it makes a point to be very insulting towards him during it. If there was no relationship at all between her and the main character, she wouldn't care if he saw. The scene wouldn't be so mean and she wouldn't be apologetic, she has no reason to be sorry if there is nothing between them. Anyways like I said earlier, guessing intent, no reason to keep going on about this since he's refused to clarify.

 

[Crow Armbrust]

THX

 

[wingedxavier]

when I'm playing, what I presume to be the character art shows up as just a black box

 

[Kazaim]

I'm not trolling and most of my post was referring to the end game stuff was he was talking about. But you do have a romantic relationship with her by the time the scene happens, its basically just the start of one. But you've building relationship points with her, fucking her, if that scene had happened the very first moment they met and most of her knowing the mcs name was removed. Then I would agree, but that quest line is a clear start of the relationship and intention to romance the character the way its designed and also the scene itself is designed to clearly be NTR. The very fact it literally only happens after you've started to get to know this character and it makes a point to be very insulting towards him during it. Anyways like I said earlier, guessing intent, no reason to keep going on about this since he's refused to clarify.

This is stupid.

No. You aren't in a relationship, by that point. Yes. You're building points towards it. No, you're not being cucked, because you aren't in a current romantic relationship, as of yet. Yes. It feels like there would be a way to affect this from happening, in future updates. But even then, she's most likely fucked the Orc long before you, the MC, was a concieved possibility. Nevermind the Harpy and Orc Futa MIGHT have a Relationship long before you. Doesn't that also means Netori? So you want Netori, in other words?

Cause if so. Wow. Hypocrisy. Still NTR content, but which one? Since you never stated which one.

 

[Ragingrager]

This is stupid.

No. You aren't in a relationship, by that point. Yes. You're building points towards it. No, you're not being cucked, because you aren't in a current romantic relationship, as of yet. Yes. It feels like there would be a way to affect this from happening, in future updates. But even then, she's most likely fucked the Orc long before you, the MC, was a concieved possibility. Nevermind the Harpy and Orc Futa MIGHT have a Relationship long before you. Doesn't that also means Netori? So you want Netori, in other words?

Cause if so. Wow. Hypocrisy. Still NTR content, but which one? Since you never stated which one.

We are going to have to agree to disagree. Her reaction of sadness that he saw, apologetic words that she says and implied guilt. Imply a relationship and connection, if there wasn't. She would ask if he wanted to join, or be a bit more jolly. Maybe just express embarrassment that she's being watched, instead she doesn't do any of that. Implies shes guilty about it and worried about his reaction in general. It's objectively NTR content and there is a relationship there from these ques alone. As for it being netori if the player gets her to commit, just based on that scene alone. The only person being cucked here is the player, the orc clearly doesn't give a shit and nothing in the scene implied some sort of deep relationship between them. If there was one, then the harpy is the wrong from the start here and misled player, but I don't think that was intended. Lastly the orc is such a horrible unlikable bitch, I can't feel any sort of empathy towards her at this point.

For it to be NETORI I'd need to see more of an actual relationship, some showing that the orc cares at all. Then revenge scene of what I'm seeing here, where the orc is forced to watch as the harpy basically says the main character dicks is better(pfft how the fuck would that be true) and she wants to be breed by him instead and not the orc. But I have a feeling the creator would never do any sort of revenge or reverse of power like that.