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Dev here. Only very recently did I learn about the existence of this thread. Answering some commonly asked questions from this thread here:
Q: Can I make the scenes and lighting better?
A: I do want to. Unfortunately at the moment, I am limited by the hardware I own. All of my renders happen on a pretty old 3070 (mobile), which limits how complex my scenes can be. Even with the current scenes, I have to do quite a bit of optimizations to get it to render in a reasonable amount of time. With some very complex scenes, unless I constantly remove and add objects, the scene doesn't even fit in my GPU's VRAM. And now that I'm already 9 parts in, it is also impossible for me to change the artstyle to something totally different that might be a bit easier on my GPU. So till the conclusion of this VN, I guess I am stuck with it. I do plan on getting an upgrade to a 50 series sometime this year, but even if I do, I do not want to change the quality of renders suddenly midway through the story and backtracking and re-doing every single old part is too much of a hassle. So for this VN, this is what the quality will have to be. I have, though, over the past few weeks working on this VN, learnt a lot of hacks on how to get the best out of a scene with the least amount of resources. You will notice that the scenes have gotten better wrt quality.
Q: So many character and scene inconsistencies? Why?
A: I guess I have to attribute these to me simply figuring shit out as I go. This is my first VN and there's quite a bit I had to learn when it came to 3D scene design and rendering. In 0.61 release, I have gone back and fixed a few old scenes. But fixing old scenes isn't that easy. I have lost some scenes files and making them from scratch takes a significantly long amount of time. I will still, as and when time permits, be going back and fixing up old renders when I can, especially the ones that are too much of an eyesore. Thanks btw for the note on the skinny legs in one of the renders - I somehow totally missed it. That unfortunately was not an issue that arose from optimization but rather plain sloppy work on my end.
Q: Why do you release small parts frequently rather than release big parts at a time?
A: Well, in my head, I've split this VN into parts. Each part is a self contained minor event in the larger storyline. So once I finish one part, I like to release it so it's out there as soon as it's done. Keeping it hidden with me isn't helping anyone, so I might as well release it. I always include changelogs in my releases, along with number of renders, lines of dialogue, etc. so that people can make informed decisions as to whether an update is too soon to download for them or if they'd like to wait and download once a few parts have been released.
Q: The choices don't seem to make a difference?
A: They do. It depends on what you are looking for wrt choices. None of the choices will cause a major branching chain in the story. While I understand there are people who love a huge divergence in the novel based on choices, it also leads to a lot of problems wrt creative vision. Generally, this story will have only one major branch. Choices are minor deviations on how events within that branch will play out. For instance, when it comes to the whether Claire should try to make Miles jealous or not does lead to some extra events - for instance, an optional kiss and some more conversational pieces in the next part. Some of these choices do carry across parts as well.
Q: This is so slow! Why?
A: Well, there's enough NTR out there where the wife goes and bangs the first dick she sees. That's not the story I wanted to write. Angst is a bit of a slow burn. But as the parts continue, the action does increase in frequency. After all, I'm starting from a point where the couple is totally new to this whole thing. It takes time for that relationship to build and I want to capture that in my story.
Q: Will the wife be going on 'dates' with another men?
A: Depends on what your definition of a date is. She's not looking for a romantic relationship with someone else, if that's what you are asking. Wrt the restaurant 'date', well, Miles and Claire are just figuring it out. So it stands to reason that she goes out, figures out what it feels like for herself and then the couple together decide on how to proceed further. In the next couple of parts, this dynamic gets solidified.
Some notes of my own:
- Angst is primarily meant to be more story driven rather than visual driven. Think of it as the visuals aiding the story more than the story aiding the visuals. That's how I have been writing this VN as well - dialogue and events first. So this might not be the right fit for somehow who doesn't enjoy a good slow read.
- I am a solo developer on this project and I don't work with this (or VNs in general) full time. It's purely a passion project. I have had a story I've wanted to tell here and a VN was the best format and I wanted to take a shot at it. This is also why I don't have a strict release timeline. I work on this whenever time (and creativity) allows me to do so.
I might not be very active here, but happy to answer any questions if you have when I visit back
Q: Can I make the scenes and lighting better?
A: I do want to. Unfortunately at the moment, I am limited by the hardware I own. All of my renders happen on a pretty old 3070 (mobile), which limits how complex my scenes can be. Even with the current scenes, I have to do quite a bit of optimizations to get it to render in a reasonable amount of time. With some very complex scenes, unless I constantly remove and add objects, the scene doesn't even fit in my GPU's VRAM. And now that I'm already 9 parts in, it is also impossible for me to change the artstyle to something totally different that might be a bit easier on my GPU. So till the conclusion of this VN, I guess I am stuck with it. I do plan on getting an upgrade to a 50 series sometime this year, but even if I do, I do not want to change the quality of renders suddenly midway through the story and backtracking and re-doing every single old part is too much of a hassle. So for this VN, this is what the quality will have to be. I have, though, over the past few weeks working on this VN, learnt a lot of hacks on how to get the best out of a scene with the least amount of resources. You will notice that the scenes have gotten better wrt quality.
Q: So many character and scene inconsistencies? Why?
A: I guess I have to attribute these to me simply figuring shit out as I go. This is my first VN and there's quite a bit I had to learn when it came to 3D scene design and rendering. In 0.61 release, I have gone back and fixed a few old scenes. But fixing old scenes isn't that easy. I have lost some scenes files and making them from scratch takes a significantly long amount of time. I will still, as and when time permits, be going back and fixing up old renders when I can, especially the ones that are too much of an eyesore. Thanks btw for the note on the skinny legs in one of the renders - I somehow totally missed it. That unfortunately was not an issue that arose from optimization but rather plain sloppy work on my end.
Q: Why do you release small parts frequently rather than release big parts at a time?
A: Well, in my head, I've split this VN into parts. Each part is a self contained minor event in the larger storyline. So once I finish one part, I like to release it so it's out there as soon as it's done. Keeping it hidden with me isn't helping anyone, so I might as well release it. I always include changelogs in my releases, along with number of renders, lines of dialogue, etc. so that people can make informed decisions as to whether an update is too soon to download for them or if they'd like to wait and download once a few parts have been released.
Q: The choices don't seem to make a difference?
A: They do. It depends on what you are looking for wrt choices. None of the choices will cause a major branching chain in the story. While I understand there are people who love a huge divergence in the novel based on choices, it also leads to a lot of problems wrt creative vision. Generally, this story will have only one major branch. Choices are minor deviations on how events within that branch will play out. For instance, when it comes to the whether Claire should try to make Miles jealous or not does lead to some extra events - for instance, an optional kiss and some more conversational pieces in the next part. Some of these choices do carry across parts as well.
Q: This is so slow! Why?
A: Well, there's enough NTR out there where the wife goes and bangs the first dick she sees. That's not the story I wanted to write. Angst is a bit of a slow burn. But as the parts continue, the action does increase in frequency. After all, I'm starting from a point where the couple is totally new to this whole thing. It takes time for that relationship to build and I want to capture that in my story.
Q: Will the wife be going on 'dates' with another men?
A: Depends on what your definition of a date is. She's not looking for a romantic relationship with someone else, if that's what you are asking. Wrt the restaurant 'date', well, Miles and Claire are just figuring it out. So it stands to reason that she goes out, figures out what it feels like for herself and then the couple together decide on how to proceed further. In the next couple of parts, this dynamic gets solidified.
Some notes of my own:
- Angst is primarily meant to be more story driven rather than visual driven. Think of it as the visuals aiding the story more than the story aiding the visuals. That's how I have been writing this VN as well - dialogue and events first. So this might not be the right fit for somehow who doesn't enjoy a good slow read.
- I am a solo developer on this project and I don't work with this (or VNs in general) full time. It's purely a passion project. I have had a story I've wanted to tell here and a VN was the best format and I wanted to take a shot at it. This is also why I don't have a strict release timeline. I work on this whenever time (and creativity) allows me to do so.
I might not be very active here, but happy to answer any questions if you have when I visit back
blkcrow20
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Welcome to the thread. I play these types of games for the sharing/swinging content. I like when the couple have open and honest communication between them. And they still love and respect each other.
Typically people go on dates to find potential future partners. A boyfriend or girlfriend, a new relationship. And yes, usually there is some romance involved. That's why for me, sending my wife on a date with another person doesn't make any sense. Also not telling the guy she's not married feels off on top of that.
Anyway, good luck with the game. I will still keep following it for now and see how it goes.
What you've described is kind of what happens in +2 parts from that event. In part 8, over a text conversation, Claire and Sam (the guy she goes on that date with) clarify that they are both looking for something casual and based on player input, you can choose whether to tell Sam about her husband, and if you do, you can also choose whether to tell him that the husband is in on it or not. These choices will have some interaction differences when it comes to Sam and Claire in parts to come.
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Nothing will change, because knowing it or not, Taurus is discovering FMC, so it's pure loss of planning, like choosing to go to a restaurant or not, it makes no difference, if you try all the options, the subsequent dynamics don't change, whatever your options, they always lead to the same path.
As I mentioned in my short QnA above, the VN was always planned with one primary branch only. So if you are expecting an experience like say Deliverance, this is would not be a VN for you. Choices do absolutely affect dialogue and interaction within the larger story along with renders.
No. The protagonists, Claire and Miles are very much in love. Whatever they do, they do together with consent from both parties. No one's taking the wife away from the husband.
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fallingbearstudio I really like your game and the story. It hits the spot that is rarely touched by gamedevs - a sharing game with mutual understanding, respect and love between the partners with slightly more dominant FMC. I tried to find other stories like this, asked in different threads, but to no avail, it seems I played all of them:
https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/post-19019506
But my comment got some likes meaning that there are other people that appreciate this kind of dynamics in the couple's relationship. So thank you for deciding to make a game like this.
(I like dominant MMCs too, but for a change I like to play different takes on the genre)
https://f95zone.to/threads/complete-netorase-sharing-games-master-list.90458/post-19019506
But my comment got some likes meaning that there are other people that appreciate this kind of dynamics in the couple's relationship. So thank you for deciding to make a game like this.
(I like dominant MMCs too, but for a change I like to play different takes on the genre)
Brother, how do you get her to understand the dynamics for a few minutes? You know how many of these games I've seen start like this, then fall into the usual game of the weak and happy cuckold and the slutty wife? You can't judge this little approach. Yes, now it all seems very exciting between the two of them, but brother, the basics never change. I repeat, I've played over 140 of these types of NTR or NTS, but the things never change. A serious flaw is when the plot describes a couple's game. Now, friend, because in the couple's game, the woman gets fucked and gets the best of both worlds, and the poor cuckold is left alone to wank off to his thoughts. I find those games where wives cheat behind their backs and the dumb husbands don't know anything much more sincere, or it happens that some husband goes to fuck on his own. Those NTR games are better, at least they are more real in terms of situations, more honest in terms of details. She's a bitch, and we know it, but in these, where she is presented as loving, they play as a couple, it's bullshit, she's having fun, she goes out, she eats with the bull, she gets fucked, she knows she has a cuckold at home who pays the bills, and she gave him the green light, why would a wife like that complain, hahahah,
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I completely agree with you however ... these are games and we play games that we like and that are not necessarily reality so let them enjoy this game ...
Moreover, given the number of games you’ve played, if you have any good titles to recommend to us, I would like it, thank you
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I don't think it will go that way, doesn't seem like it. I see that people keep getting fears over this game, which for me are obviously false. I also have some intuition, eg here I was spot on:
https://f95zone.to/threads/western-sharing-games-list.226259/post-19049163
at least judging by the author's comment above:
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So essentially it seems there will be 3 different scenarios:
1) Sam knows that Claire is married and that Claire and Miles have this game going on
2) Sam knows that Claire is married but thinks that he cucks Miles (but Miles knows everything)
3) Sam doesn't know that Claire is married and thinks that they are just friends-with-benefits with Claire
This is a really nice choice we don't usually get that in this genre
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The only thing then, let's see what the future holds. If I'm wrong, I'll apologize. I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong. In fact, I'd be very happy if you're right and I'm wrong. It would mean that the game deserves more than my own predictions.
I completely agree with you however ... these are games and we play games that we like and that are not necessarily reality so let them enjoy this game ...
Moreover, given the number of games you’ve played, if you have any good titles to recommend to us, I would like it, thank you
The beauty of the forum is exchanging hypotheses and any ideas, of course, since we're talking about a porn game, and that's how it should be, but the good discussions are varied.
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So, you're saying we want have any choice when it comes to Claire going out with Sam again?
Claire will go out with Sam again. Choices are almost always going to be wrt what interactions happen within events. The VN itself runs on an author's vision branch with deviations being interactions within events.
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Part 9 is here!
A late night stint at the office to meet a project deadline leads to something interesting.
This part is one of the bigger ones. Which is also why it took a bit longer to complete than I expected.
There's a total of 125 renders in this part and about 450 lines of dialogue. The renders also include 5 animations. There are a few branches in this part which are also slightly affected by a choice made in part 8. Also, a new character has been introduced, Justin, one of Claire's colleagues (name can be changed from the Preferences menu like for other characters).
This is also the first time that Claire does something 'fun' with someone other than Miles (if you exclude her optional kiss with Sam at the end of her date of course).
Enjoy! As usual, let me know if you spot any bugs. Cheers!
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Understood but that's still depressing. And after playing this last update, it's sounding more and more like a cuck game. Definitely not my type of sharing game. Good luck.
I absolutely understand. Appreciate you checking it out so far