VN Ren'Py Anna Exciting Affection [Ch.2 Ep.18] [DeepSleep]

[Thickgravy49]

HBO's Succession doesn't get analyzed even a fraction as much as Stanford and Zara breaking down this game. Truly a sight to behold.

Except Zara actually knows what she's talking about.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

So Earl is not dead!
in any case there is doubt!

and I love when Zara is soooo sure about something... she is very passionate.... but she forget that Deep do not spoiler the future updates scenes for obvious reason...
if in november after the car crash you ask to Deep
" But Earl is dead?"

Deep will replay to you: "the dead will not return : )" (or similar phrase) (you posted here his replay one or 2 page before)
but this can be only a way to do not spoiler the next update...

We will see... maybe i'm wrong... but to me there is still a doubt!
we have to wait for a lot of months to know that.

There is no doubt, because Deep has stated categorically that he's dead. It's got nothing to do with me being passionate. He told me and everyone else that Earl is definitely dead in that part of the game. And the only person that can't see that is you. Honestly, I don't why I keep repeating this, because you're just so obstinate and refuse to believe anything that anyone tells you, even when that person is the Dev, the person who knows better than anyone else!

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Relax man, where did I say I follow the routes you mentioned? The lesbian route is the one I play the least, my favourite route is the one where most of the characters are alive (Jeremy, Sergey, Patrick and Earl), but in general I usually play all the routes.

I play every route in the game as well. But because that contradicts the crazy theories of the 'King of Logic', he refuses to acknowledge it. Even though I've stated it numerous times in the past. For his information, on my primary playthrough I went with Carl. But on others I went with the Taxman and Earl. I have 6 different playthroughs, which all have different combinations of the alternative content, and have Anna with different levels of corruption. From the primary where she has maximum corruption, to the sixth where she has much much less ( the one reserved for Anna and Andrew to end up together).

 

[88stanford88]

For his information, on my primary playthrough I went with Carl.

good choice
I'm only in one route because i do not want get confused in illogical route like you that always forget the CH1 route
Max corruption
Nax submission

In CH1 there is only a single route for me and I'm still following the CH1 route
the new routes created in CH2 in the attempt to change the audience have nonsense!

but why you do not understand a simple point...

So unlike on the other route, he's not present on the scene when Anna shoots Mr Smith and Earl has no chance to tell him or anybody else, because immediately after that he's involved in the deadly car pursuit with Sergey.

what i'm saying is just that when a cop dead in a car crash involving a shooting, other policemen arrive who also investigate Earl's contacts before the incident... and also the same Officer Desmond who believed in her when Earl arrested her will have to reopen the case
That is why I said in my previous post if Earl is really dead another one will replace him in the investigation 'cause Anna is the MC and she must save her family gang and Andrew

that Andrew was shot on the street by an unknown assailant, and Earl has no real evidence to contradict that

Andrew is why the story is stuck... because actually is not possible to know his version of the story..
and all updates since Andrew will remain in a coma will be just uninteresting side stories and side-scenes --- so at the moment the next update will be interesting only for Anna's sex scenes--- but there won't be any progress in the main story

Contrary to what the 'King of Logic' believes, those scenes have not been deleted. But when has that ever stopped him devising yet another crazy conspiracy theory, to suggest I'm the master puppeteer pulling Deep's strings.

that scene?
my bad!
I misunderstood the scene we were talking about But for sure there was a scene that has been changed and caused delay just to follow Zara who pull Deep's strings like he was puppet

I can confirm that Zara is one of the main causes of the delay in the updates and the stupid short novel released in March is one of her works that aim to create delays in all future updates.

This is the main reason why I like to replay to her and i think she likes too

 

[Zara Scarlet]

good choice
I'm only in one route because i do not want get confused in illogical route like you that always forget the CH1 route
Max corruption
Nax submission

In CH1 there is only a single route for me and I'm still following the CH1 route
the new routes created in CH2 in the attempt to change the audience have nonsense!

but why you do not understand a simple point...

what i'm saying is just that when a cop dead in a car crash involving a shooting, other policemen arrive who also investigate Earl's contacts before the incident... and also the same Officer Desmond who believed in her when Earl arrested her will have to reopen the case
That is why I said in my previous post if Earl is really dead another one will replace him in the investigation 'cause Anna is the MC and she must save her family gang and Andrew


Andrew is why the story is stuck... because actually is not possible to know his version of the story..
and all updates since Andrew will remain in a coma will be just uninteresting side stories and side-scenes --- so at the moment the next update will be interesting only for Anna's sex scenes--- but there won't be any progress in the main story


that scene?
my bad!
I misunderstood the scene we were talking about But for sure there was a scene that has been changed and caused delay just to follow Zara who pull Deep's strings like he was puppet

I can confirm that Zara is one of the main causes of the delay in the updates and the stupid short novel released in March is one of her works that aim to create delays in all future updates.

This is the main reason why I like to replay to her and i think she likes too

I think you've been smoking too many joints recently. Maybe you should lay off them when you're responding to comments on this site, because your ability to think coherently is suffering. And it also appears to be making you increasingly paranoid and believing the most bizarre conspiracy theories regarding this game.

First I haven't forgotten anything from Chapter 1. That's why I'm able to spot all the inconsistencies in your statements about it and all the times you blatantly invent stuff about it, to support some of your crazy theories. Chapter 1 is pretty much linear, so except for Jeremy, everyone effectively follows the same route. The only difference being, whether you choose for Anna to have sex or not with the various npcs. Contrary to what you appear to believe, my primary playthrough is the one where Jeremy is alive, Anna is a bar whore and she chooses Schmitt, instead of Cary. Plus she has maximum corruption. I was quite happy with how things were going in Chapter 1, I had no problem with it being an RPGM game, I never wanted Andrew to be killed or put in a coma. Everything that has changed since Chapter 1, has had zero to do with me. Because I was ok with the game as it was in Chapter 1.

The main difference between me and you, is that I am willing to accept the choices made by the majority of patrons, even if it wasn't what I personally wanted or even voted for. And you trying to make out, that it's all because of me, and I have some secret agenda to change the game, into one where Anna only has lesbian sex, is just plain nuts. Because I'm not interested in that kind of game, and anybody who really pays attention to my comments ( because they're not stoned out of their mind) is able to see that fairly easily.

Secondly, the changes in Chapter 2 were not made to change the audience, but a response to the audience that already existed. Contrary to what you believe, the majority of players want this kind of game. Yes, there is a sizeable and voluble minority that don't, but they are still in the minority. It's just that they tend to make more noise, than the majority of players, who on the whole are happy with how things are. Maybe if you weren't so self-obsessed with trying to force everybody to accept you're extremely narrow view of what this game should be. You'd be able to see that there are plenty of other people who just don't agree with you, and their opinions are just as valid as your own, even more so if they represent the majority.
But of course, you're incapable of seeing anything like that. Because you're the 'King of Logic', and that means you're right and they're wrong. Because only you can see, the path that this game must follow.

Thirdly, as I've tried and failed to explain to you. On the route where Earl dies, he hasn't told anyone else that he's investigating Sergey and his gang, because he's following a hunch and has no concrete proof that they're involved. Most of the other police officers, of whom Officer Desmond is a prime example, don't agree with Earl's methods. Because he doesn't follow the rules, and he's only tolerated by his superiors, because in the past he's got results. Officer Desmond doesn't like Earl, not many people at the police station do, because he's a lone wolf who wants to keep all the glory of his 'collars' to himself. Which is why he operates so much on his own, and only informs the other police officers when he needs assistance to make arrests. And because he never told Desmond about his suspicions regarding Sergey. When he and the other police officers investigate his death in the car crash, they won't know about Sergey at all. All they'll know, is Earl died during a car chase with an unknown person. Which they won't necessarily connect with his current investigation, because over the years Earl has made a lot of enemies, due to the unscrupulous methods he's used to catch villains.

So it's very unlikely they'd be able to make a connection to Sergey or Anna, and since Officer Desmond pretty much accepts Anna's story about Andrew's shooting anyway, it's almost certain he'll be investigating in a direction that doesn't involve her. This is doubly the case, when you consider that Carl's contact in the police station, is almost certainly the girl there that Officer Desmond wants to date. She's probably doing her best to dissuade him from pursuing this case any further.

And all of this is academic anyway, because it's obvious to anyone who isn't blinded by their desire to always be proved right. That the Devs have decided to move this part of the game away from a police investigation. Because if they really wanted to continue with that, they would never haved killed off Earl at all. Killing him off makes it so obvious, that he's not going to be replaced by another police officer. Just get that through your thick head. That storyline is finished, over. And trying to prove that Earl isn't dead or someone would inevitably take over is irrelevant, simply because that storyline in this part of the game, has reached it's end. I can't say it any simpler than that!

Fourthly, most of the story has moved beyond Andrew. When he was put in a coma, the cheating element which played such a big element in Chapter 1, effectively ended. And Andrew's real importance in the game ended with it. Yes, technically Anna is still cheating, but without any danger of discovery, the dramatic impact of a cheating element is virtually eliminated. And since it's fairly obvious now, that Anna will not be returning in any significant way to her relationship with Andrew, except on one route ( the one where they'll end up together anyway), Andrew's relevance in most of the game is now over. All that remains is for Anna to tell Andrew, what most of us already know and many of us actively crave for. That she no longer loves him, and doesn't want to be his girlfriend anymore. Now it may be that we'll have to wait a while for that to happen. But quite frankly, it wont make any difference to the game, as it currently stands. Unless you're one of those people, who really wants Anna and Andrew to end up together. And that's why the so-called Renaissance Route, will eventually be added to the game. But the renaissance route is not the main story as you put it. That will inevitably be one where Anna and Andrew split up.

Whatever scene you're talking about, it had nothing to do with me. Unless, it was the scene where Anna has sex with the prostitute and her customer. That I did persuade Deep and Awake to change. Because I thought Anna not originally getting a chance to have sex in that scene, was a missed opportunity, and I devised an alternative scene where Anna pretends to be another whore, but allows Gianna to receive all the money, in return for her phone recording of Alexei being murdered by Earl. I thought such a scene would give Anna an interesting insight into the life of a hooker, which would also set her up for other scenes in the future, where a very high corruption Anna might be tempted to do the same thing for real.

Most people agree, that my input improved that scene significantly. So yeah I own up, I did persuade the Devs to change that scene, and get Anna involved in a nasty threesome in a public restroom. But that is the only scene I have ever persuaded them to change. And your conspiracy theories to the contrary, are completely insane, and an insult to Deep and Awake. Who I can assure you are totally responsible for 99.99% of the content in this game. As I suggested before, you should lay off the weed, because it's causing you to become horribly confused.

 

[Dodzh]

 

[Zara Scarlet]

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[fuckmymamarunnin]

That scene was deleted due to some suggestion of the queens of non sense
Zara is trying to change the game to get an ending where all the characters die except Anna and Zara (who is making a DAZ model of herself)
here will be other cuts.. everyone will die and Zara and Anna will live happily ever after

here https://f95zone.to/threads/anna-exciting-affection-anna-first-time-deepsleep.2689/post-10372225 you can see that Anna looks older in the chapter 2
this is a prove that CH2 is an attempt to change the audience of this fantastic game!

do not delete the version .95... if you search well in the old posts...like in July/August of 2022 you will find a Zara post that talks about this change!

so what about the lack of choices for the Anna/Madison scene on the plane, flying to their meeting with COE?

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yes...i started at an earlier save in v0.97, made all the exact same choices, but after Anna makes her choice on which type of porno to shoot, that scene is no longer there (at least for me). n believe me, i tried...several times

The scene with Madison depends on previous choices you made for Anna. The top choice requires you to have advised Madison not to resist Jeremy. Whereas the bottom choice requires you to have made mainly Dom choices, when asked to make either Sub or Dom choices, at various points during Chapter 2. To get the position you had, with both choices blanked out, you must have had Anna advise Madison to stand up to Jeremy, and you must have made mainly Sub choices for Anna. And because both of those positions are contradictory (a Submissive Anna would naturally advise Madison not to resist Jeremy), you ended with a position where Anna can't take part in the scene.

Contrary to what the 'King of Logic' believes, those scenes have not been deleted. But when has that ever stopped him devising yet another crazy conspiracy theory, to suggest I'm the master puppeteer pulling Deep's strings.

yes...like i said in my original inquiry, i DID advise Madison to just go with the flow, n not resist Jeremy, n just do whatever he or any of the other office staff tell her to do. so i SHOULD be getting that first option then...dammit!! why am i not? will go ALL THE WAY BACK to that save, when she's first hired, n try again

 

[khantus]

yes...i started at an earlier save in v0.97, made all the exact same choices, but after Anna makes her choice on which type of porno to shoot, that scene is no longer there (at least for me). n believe me, i tried...several times

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[Zara Scarlet]

yes...like i said in my original inquiry, i DID advise Madison to just go with the flow, n not resist Jeremy, n just do whatever he or any of the other office staff tell her to do. so i SHOULD be getting that first option then...dammit!! why am i not? will go ALL THE WAY BACK to that save, when she's first hired, n try again

She advises Madison on more than one occasion. So you need to make sure you do that everytime. That's the only thing I can think of, that would lead to that choice being blanked out.

Unless perhaps you're playing the VN version? Because I play the Sandbox version and it could possibly be a bug in the VN that doesn't appear in the Sandbox version? The issue you mentioned regarding the pornshoot definitely doesn't occur in the Sandbox version. So perhaps this is something similar?

 

[Horizonn]

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Weekly update

Hello, dear Patrons!

A quick weekly update on the progress of the next release!

We have done a lot of renders till now and I'm happy with the progress.

Here you can see the scene with Earl. As you know, he's quite a cunning character and will use all of his traits if Anna decides to do business with him.

I have done the better half of the renders, and Awake is already working on some nice custom animations for scenes to make them even spicier.

I added the office scene to the list. Other ones still stay the same as I wrote in the last update.

Office scene, where some recent characters will appear and make things more interesting. Alfred's fashion show scene, Earl's paths. A scene with Rebecca only. Ashley is finally back. Anna at the beach and some other smaller scenes.

Thank you again for your fantastic support!

Sincerely yours,

Deep

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[88stanford88]

so what about the lack of choices for the Anna/Madison scene on the plane, flying to their meeting with COE?

I'm playing the VN and there are no bugs
the scene with madison in the plane is here
I'm in the Anna sub path because I always choose that she loves to be fucked all the time in any position and everywhere
I can select Okey


here is my save for that scene
but you need the VN version

 

[DD3DD]

Huge silly pictures that have no relevance to the game.

No Zara No ... you were winning

Appreciate the in depth write up actually. And kudos on the dirty 3Some that was Hawt, thank you.

the correct response to the wall of text meme was:

Wall... LoL?? I'm the Juggernaut, Ya Bish!

 

[fuckmymamarunnin]

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THANK YOU!!! now i FINALLY have an explanation; b/c i'm a big-time hardcore BDSM fan, so ofc i chose that route for her, which then apparently, like u said, causes the flag to get skipped that triggers the scene with Rebecca n Michael. i "guess" i could go back, n choose the normal shoot with Jeff, if it means getting the sisters closer to hooking up...but will doing so close the path to future scenes of Anna doing bdsm shoots? thanks again, it feels SOOO good to finally have an answer to that!

She advises Madison on more than one occasion. So you need to make sure you do that everytime. That's the only thing I can think of, that would lead to that choice being blanked out.

Unless perhaps you're playing the VN version? Because I play the Sandbox version and it could possibly be a bug in the VN that doesn't appear in the Sandbox version? The issue you mentioned regarding the pornshoot definitely doesn't occur in the Sandbox version. So perhaps this is something similar?

yes, playing VN version; n apparently that, along with choosing bdsm porn shoot option, is a combo that doesn't go well together

I'm playing the VN and there are no bugs
the scene with madison in the plane is here
I'm in the Anna sub path because I always choose that she loves to be fucked all the time in any position and everywhere
I can select Okey
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here is my save for that scene
but you need the VN version

THANK YOU FOR THIS!!! n yeah, like i said earlier, i've done the EXACT SAME THING u said, about having Anna fuck anything n everything in her path, n telling Madison when she started to just go along with whatever is asked of her, or she's told to do, n not refuse or question anything...so then why can't i get the same choice in-game organically?? (n yes, ofc i'm playing VN version...sandbox SUCKS, n is 'almost' as bad as RPGmaker )

here is my save for that scene
but you need the VN version

 

[88stanford88]

I think you have something wrong on your side
I'm able to download the save file i upload
I'm using Chrome as browser... I'm on mac but I use SDk latest version on a PC game version... save must work
try to deleted the whole folder of the saves including persistent file

Look at the OP
it is cleary written that you have to start the game again because OLD SAVES may not work or causes BUGS

I think you've been smoking too many joints recently. Maybe you should lay off them when you're responding to comments on this site, because your ability to think coherently is suffering. And it also appears to be making you increasingly paranoid and believing the most bizarre conspiracy theories regarding this game.

First I haven't forgotten anything from Chapter 1. That's why I'm able to spot all the inconsistencies in your statements about it and all the times you blatantly invent stuff about it, to support some of your crazy theories. Chapter 1 is pretty much linear, so except for Jeremy, everyone effectively follows the same route. The only difference being, whether you choose for Anna to have sex or not with the various npcs. Contrary to what you appear to believe, my primary playthrough is the one where Jeremy is alive, Anna is a bar whore and she chooses Schmitt, instead of Cary. Plus she has maximum corruption. I was quite happy with how things were going in Chapter 1, I had no problem with it being an RPGM game, I never wanted Andrew to be killed or put in a coma. Everything that has changed since Chapter 1, has had zero to do with me. Because I was ok with the game as it was in Chapter 1.

The main difference between me and you, is that I am willing to accept the choices made by the majority of patrons, even if it wasn't what I personally wanted or even voted for. And you trying to make out, that it's all because of me, and I have some secret agenda to change the game, into one where Anna only has lesbian sex, is just plain nuts. Because I'm not interested in that kind of game, and anybody who really pays attention to my comments ( because they're not stoned out of their mind) is able to see that fairly easily.

Secondly, the changes in Chapter 2 were not made to change the audience, but a response to the audience that already existed. Contrary to what you believe, the majority of players want this kind of game. Yes, there is a sizeable and voluble minority that don't, but they are still in the minority. It's just that they tend to make more noise, than the majority of players, who on the whole are happy with how things are. Maybe if you weren't so self-obsessed with trying to force everybody to accept you're extremely narrow view of what this game should be. You'd be able to see that there are plenty of other people who just don't agree with you, and their opinions are just as valid as your own, even more so if they represent the majority.
But of course, you're incapable of seeing anything like that. Because you're the 'King of Logic', and that means you're right and they're wrong. Because only you can see, the path that this game must follow.

Thirdly, as I've tried and failed to explain to you. On the route where Earl dies, he hasn't told anyone else that he's investigating Sergey and his gang, because he's following a hunch and has no concrete proof that they're involved. Most of the other police officers, of whom Officer Desmond is a prime example, don't agree with Earl's methods. Because he doesn't follow the rules, and he's only tolerated by his superiors, because in the past he's got results. Officer Desmond doesn't like Earl, not many people at the police station do, because he's a lone wolf who wants to keep all the glory of his 'collars' to himself. Which is why he operates so much on his own, and only informs the other police officers when he needs assistance to make arrests. And because he never told Desmond about his suspicions regarding Sergey. When he and the other police officers investigate his death in the car crash, they won't know about Sergey at all. All they'll know, is Earl died during a car chase with an unknown person. Which they won't necessarily connect with his current investigation, because over the years Earl has made a lot of enemies, due to the unscrupulous methods he's used to catch villains.

So it's very unlikely they'd be able to make a connection to Sergey or Anna, and since Officer Desmond pretty much accepts Anna's story about Andrew's shooting anyway, it's almost certain he'll be investigating in a direction that doesn't involve her. This is doubly the case, when you consider that Carl's contact in the police station, is almost certainly the girl there that Officer Desmond wants to date. She's probably doing her best to dissuade him from pursuing this case any further.

And all of this is academic anyway, because it's obvious to anyone who isn't blinded by their desire to always be proved right. That the Devs have decided to move this part of the game away from a police investigation. Because if they really wanted to continue with that, they would never haved killed off Earl at all. Killing him off makes it so obvious, that he's not going to be replaced by another police officer. Just get that through your thick head. That storyline is finished, over. And trying to prove that Earl isn't dead or someone would inevitably take over is irrelevant, simply because that storyline in this part of the game, has reached it's end. I can't say it any simpler than that!

Fourthly, most of the story has moved beyond Andrew. When he was put in a coma, the cheating element which played such a big element in Chapter 1, effectively ended. And Andrew's real importance in the game ended with it. Yes, technically Anna is still cheating, but without any danger of discovery, the dramatic impact of a cheating element is virtually eliminated. And since it's fairly obvious now, that Anna will not be returning in any significant way to her relationship with Andrew, except on one route ( the one where they'll end up together anyway), Andrew's relevance in most of the game is now over. All that remains is for Anna to tell Andrew, what most of us already know and many of us actively crave for. That she no longer loves him, and doesn't want to be his girlfriend anymore. Now it may be that we'll have to wait a while for that to happen. But quite frankly, it wont make any difference to the game, as it currently stands. Unless you're one of those people, who really wants Anna and Andrew to end up together. And that's why the so-called Renaissance Route, will eventually be added to the game. But the renaissance route is not the main story as you put it. That will inevitably be one where Anna and Andrew split up.

Whatever scene you're talking about, it had nothing to do with me. Unless, it was the scene where Anna has sex with the prostitute and her customer. That I did persuade Deep and Awake to change. Because I thought Anna not originally getting a chance to have sex in that scene, was a missed opportunity, and I devised an alternative scene where Anna pretends to be another whore, but allows Gianna to receive all the money, in return for her phone recording of Alexei being murdered by Earl. I thought such a scene would give Anna an interesting insight into the life of a hooker, which would also set her up for other scenes in the future, where a very high corruption Anna might be tempted to do the same thing for real.

Most people agree, that my input improved that scene significantly. So yeah I own up, I did persuade the Devs to change that scene, and get Anna involved in a nasty threesome in a public restroom. But that is the only scene I have ever persuaded them to change. And your conspiracy theories to the contrary, are completely insane, and an insult to Deep and Awake. Who I can assure you are totally responsible for 99.99% of the content in this game. As I suggested before, you should lay off the weed, because it's causing you to become horribly confused.

WOW.... SOO PASSIONATE... I need a coffee
I think I like you too much... but as always you didn't get my point
I'm not saying that your recommendations are always useless

I simply said that you are becoming the main cause of production delays

and with your wall of words confirming my short sentence...
I couldn't translate everything because Googe tells me that you have reached the maximum number of words to translate.

Thank you for being so passionate about creating production delays.

I just remind you that for me the only path that matters is:
CH1 max corruption points
CH2 max corruption and submission points

So I'm forced to suffer unnecessary delays thanks to you Zara

I hope that the paying supporters will grow because I believe that if they continue to stay the same or worse decrease... and Deep could get tired of you.

Thank you Zara fo the delay in my beloved path
I will try to translate all your words...

Cheers

 

[88stanford88]

This happens in the VN version, I don't know if the same thing happens in the sandbox version, maybe it's a bug or maybe it was planned that way.

No the only bugged version is always the sandbox... the VN can works also with old saves even is better to start from the beginning due to the Zara reworked scene

The prove is that the save file is included only in the sandbox...
my old saves works on the VN!

it could possibly be a bug in the VN that doesn't appear in the Sandbox version?

as always the 2 queens of nonsense are on the same page

THERE ARE NO BUGS IN THE VN

The only version that requires save file included in order to works is THE SANDBOX!
of course if you are in Jeremy live full corruption and submission points... just because I never play different routes

 

[Zara Scarlet]

WOW.... SOO PASSIONATE... I need a coffee
I think I like you too much... but as always you didn't get my point
I'm not saying that your recommendations are always useless

I simply said that you are becoming the main cause of production delays

and with your wall of words confirming my short sentence...
I couldn't translate everything because Googe tells me that you have reached the maximum number of words to translate.

Thank you for being so passionate about creating production delays.

I just remind you that for me the only path that matters is:
CH1 max corruption points
CH2 max corruption and submission points

So I'm forced to suffer unnecessary delays thanks to you Zara

I hope that the paying supporters will grow because I believe that if they continue to stay the same or worse decrease... and Deep could get tired of you.

Thank you Zara fo the delay in my beloved path
I will try to translate all your words...

Cheers

I don't know why you keep persisting with these ridiculous claims, that nobody with an ounce of sense would give any credence. All it does is make you look foolish. It doesn't matter how simply you say it, it's still nonsense. I have absolutely nothing to do with the development of this game, and any 'delays' are entirely the responsibility of the two people who are developing it, namely Deep and Awake. Not that I expect you to accept that.

If you're so sure about all this. I dare you to go on Discord and say it to Deep and Awake. I'm sure they would love to hear your 'expert opinion', about how they can speed up the production process. Stop whining about it on here, and actually put your money where your mouth is. And tell the Devs how you think I'm the cause of all their woes.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

No the only bugged version is always the sandbox... the VN can works also with old saves even is better to start from the beginning due to the Zara reworked scene

The prove is that the save file is included only in the sandbox...
my old saves works on the VN!


as always the 2 queens of nonsense are on the same page

THERE ARE NO BUGS IN THE VN

The only version that requires save file included in order to works is THE SANDBOX!
of course if you are in Jeremy live full corruption and submission points... just because I never play different routes

I never said there were any bugs in the VN, I said there might be ( that's what including 'possibly' in a statement tends to mean). As I said, I've never played the VN, and most of the time I don't pay much attention to comments about it. So I can't say anything for certain about it. My suggestion as to what might be the issue, was just that, a suggestion. Which could be completely wrong.

You state very bluntly that there are no bugs in the VN. But below that you say that you only play one particular route in the VN, so how can you know that there are no bugs in the VN? The truth is, you don't know anything of the sort. Because there could be bugs on the routes that you don't play, and you'd never know it.

The old saves issue was caused by a change in functionality , a reworking of the phone, to try to solve faulty coding issues that Awake made earlier in Chapter 2, which have been causing recurring problems in each update for some time now. And I suspect the reason it doesn't affect the VN, is because the phone isn't part of that version. But that doesn't mean there can't be any bugs in the VN version, it just means there is a lower potential for them to occur.

One advantage the VN has over the Sandbox version, is that because it's released significantly later, most of the bugs in each update have already been fixed. So it's not so much that the Sandbox version is superior when it comes to bugs. Just that it benefits from having all the issues played out in the Sandbox version first.

 

[Scarlet56]

Hi all.
After several months of absence, I return here.
Can someone explain to me which version I should take first?
I intend to redo a game from the beginning.
Knowing that the last time I played this game was right after getting the fat guy killed.
Thank you very much

 

[Mazdayasna]

Hi all.
After several months of absence, I return here.
Can someone explain to me which version I should take first?
I intend to redo a game from the beginning.
Knowing that the last time I played this game was right after getting the fat guy killed.
Thank you very much

Hi, welcome back.
You must download chapter 1 cause you wasn't finished chapter 1, after that download chapter 2 (main game) then download Anna first time.