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ItzSpc

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I would call that beyond femdom sucking a guy's cock is outright Yaoi shit and that is not mentioned in the genre. That is absolutely disgusting.
Agreed. Getting Yaoi shoehorned into what is supposed to be "femdom" feels a lot like this.
 
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Marshall343

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So just opened the game after downloading the new version and there's an option for "I think there's still some ink that needs extracting" how do you get that option unlocked? is it an option that comes through with one of the art-based quests?
 
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You know, I was kind of enjoying this for a bit. Then the scene with Kate. Wow. That went off the deep end real fast. Like holy shit, I feel unclean for having sat through that insanity. Who wrote this? What's with this hatred?

I'll be the first to admit that I could be called an incel, if you want. But the term usually means something different. Something more like the vision espoused by our rapist MC in this game. I'm not attractive, interesting, clever, wealthy, or in any way redeeming and as a result I am of no interest to anyone romantically. I wouldn't date me. And that fact is my fault alone. I alone am morally responsible for what I am. This bizarre idea of blaming all women for your shortcomings is just mad. Yes, I was born like this. No, it's not fair. Too bad, it's still only my fault. I'm not owed love or sex. Neither is the MC.
 

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You know, I was kind of enjoying this for a bit. Then the scene with Kate. Wow. That went off the deep end real fast. Like holy shit, I feel unclean for having sat through that insanity. Who wrote this? What's with this hatred?

I'll be the first to admit that I could be called an incel, if you want. But the term usually means something different. Something more like the vision espoused by our rapist MC in this game. I'm not attractive, interesting, clever, wealthy, or in any way redeeming and as a result I am of no interest to anyone romantically. I wouldn't date me. And that fact is my fault alone. I alone am morally responsible for what I am. This bizarre idea of blaming all women for your shortcomings is just mad. Yes, I was born like this. No, it's not fair. Too bad, it's still only my fault. I'm not owed love or sex. Neither is the MC.
care to explain what happend ?
 

Xupuzulla

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You know, I was kind of enjoying this for a bit. Then the scene with Kate. Wow. That went off the deep end real fast. Like holy shit, I feel unclean for having sat through that insanity. Who wrote this? What's with this hatred?

I'll be the first to admit that I could be called an incel, if you want. But the term usually means something different. Something more like the vision espoused by our rapist MC in this game. I'm not attractive, interesting, clever, wealthy, or in any way redeeming and as a result I am of no interest to anyone romantically. I wouldn't date me. And that fact is my fault alone. I alone am morally responsible for what I am. This bizarre idea of blaming all women for your shortcomings is just mad. Yes, I was born like this. No, it's not fair. Too bad, it's still only my fault. I'm not owed love or sex. Neither is the MC.
What scene are you talking about,the forced blowjob dream?
 
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care to explain what happend ?
What do you mean?

What scene are you talking about,the forced blowjob dream?
Yes, scene where the MC rapes Kate in the gym. "Forced blowjob" is not accurate, dream or otherwise.

"It's gross how some people just have to go all their lives without feeling a hot mouth around their dick."
"Nothing quite like like forcing your dick down the throat of someone you fucking hate."
"She'll choke on my dick until her face turns blue. She'll take my load so deep in her throat that it comes out of her nose and eyes. And the best part is she knows she deserves it."
"Choke, bitch!"

This is hatred. On a scale that is rather intense. I'm here to say that this isn't okay. Like I said above I will never sleep with a woman, but I do know what it's like to have something shoved down my throat against my will. It is a profoundly not-recommended experience and my hands shake remembering it.

It doesn't matter if this scene is written as a dream. The MC is advocates for it and regrets it not being real upon waking. How can anyone advocate for this? This is awful.

"For all the women that have hurt me or denied me any sort of affection in the past, Kate's going to suffer."
What the fuck? I feel sick.
 

KingSlayer15

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This makes not the least bit of difference. The scene is there. The writing reflects real hatred. It portrays rape as justified. And I still feel sick.
No, it does make a difference. YOU choose how the MC is characterized. And of course the MC has real hatred for the woman that tormented him. Not justifying his power tripping dream btw, but you can choose yourself to make the MC good or evil. That's a pretty huge theme on the game, choosing revenge, or choosing to be better.
 

KingSlayer15

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This makes not the least bit of difference. The scene is there. The writing reflects real hatred. It portrays rape as justified. And I still feel sick.
Also two sidenotes. 1. Kate has done worst. 2. this is a porn game, I get it if non/dubious-con ain't your cup of tea (not mine either tbh), But it is some peoples and porn games will add what they want.
 
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The scene itself bothers me a lot, and nobody deserves what he did to her real or not (the choking is the worst part, I'm still sweating thinking of it), but it's not even the point. The MC clearly blames, even hates, all women for his loneliness. He feels entitled to affection and sex. He thinks his fate is their fault, somehow. How can this not make you ill? This kind of thing makes it hard for people who are feeling lonely because of such circumstances to even talk about it lest we be lumped with the hate filled freaks.
 

Lolicon Kami

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Clearly, this game is not your cup up tea. Don't sweat it, and move on.

And I get you man. I feel bothered when I see my roommate shoot innocent people to death, every day, in GTA. But ultimately, games ain't real, and no matter how I feel, Rockstar Games will still pump out games that lets you be a mass shooter.

Don't dwell on it, and find another game that makes you happy! I'd recommend Loca Love for a wholesome porn experience. Nekopara too, if you into consensual cat-girls. And maybe Katawa Shoujo, if reading is your thing (warning: the title falsely alludes to fetishizing disabilities, but you'll soon find that the game actually is super wholesome).

You might also benefit from using the vanilla tag.
 
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Derol

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The MC clearly blames, even hates, all women for his loneliness. He feels entitled to affection and sex. He thinks his fate is their fault, somehow.
He...doesn't? I mean, I haven't finished the game yet, but so far, the only comment I remember about him blaming others is when he blames his mother for giving more attention to his sister. This is curious because his sister later mentions how much she has to work to be the 'mommy's best child', while all he has to do is be a decent human being for a few minutes to receive all the praises.
 
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Zero1994

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What do you mean?


Yes, scene where the MC rapes Kate in the gym. "Forced blowjob" is not accurate, dream or otherwise.

"It's gross how some people just have to go all their lives without feeling a hot mouth around their dick."
"Nothing quite like like forcing your dick down the throat of someone you fucking hate."
"She'll choke on my dick until her face turns blue. She'll take my load so deep in her throat that it comes out of her nose and eyes. And the best part is she knows she deserves it."
"Choke, bitch!"

This is hatred. On a scale that is rather intense. I'm here to say that this isn't okay. Like I said above I will never sleep with a woman, but I do know what it's like to have something shoved down my throat against my will. It is a profoundly not-recommended experience and my hands shake remembering it.

It doesn't matter if this scene is written as a dream. The MC is advocates for it and regrets it not being real upon waking. How can anyone advocate for this? This is awful.

"For all the women that have hurt me or denied me any sort of affection in the past, Kate's going to suffer."
What the fuck? I feel sick.
Unfortunately, it is quite common in porn games (especially isekai) to explicitly or implicitly have the MC's rabid hatred against women as a group because some of them don't give him the time of day.

Many will not recognize it, but it is there in many games, nothing subtle.
 
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blueberrypasteur

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The scene itself bothers me a lot, and nobody deserves what he did to her real or not (the choking is the worst part, I'm still sweating thinking of it), but it's not even the point. The MC clearly blames, even hates, all women for his loneliness. He feels entitled to affection and sex. He thinks his fate is their fault, somehow. How can this not make you ill? This kind of thing makes it hard for people who are feeling lonely because of such circumstances to even talk about it lest we be lumped with the hate filled freaks.
I find what you are saying to be fascinating, and I feel like this is approachable from a thousand angles.

First, let's address the PTSD. It sounds like you've had a very bad experience in the past, and this scene is causing you to remember it, and even, to an extent, to relive it. I'm very sorry to hear this and I hope things improve for you. Personally, I've never been choked, and I don't experience the same visceral disgust as you reading the same thing.

Next, to reiterate what people have already said, you're in control of the story. The MC didn't decide to go to school naked, I decided he should do that for kink reasons which didn't pan out when no one was present. Similarly, you decide if the MC rapes Kate. You can instead tell her to apologize, and when she offers to suck your dick as a sincere apology, you can reject her outright. Then her face turns scary and you wake up, classic dream stuff.

But that's not your point! You've lasered in on "the character of the dream-rapist MC" and that's the character you take issue with. Why does this character exist? Because a writer wrote it, and readers read it. Sometimes writers will write things intending to horrify and upset readers, horror novels for an obvious example, but this is not that (though that scary face if you rebuff her actually was pretty scary). It's an erotic fantasy. Some people find it hot. Degradation, dubious consent, they want to immerse themselves in a world where all that stuff makes sense for a second or two. Personally I don't get it, but I'm guessing they're as likely to commit rape as I am to be arrested for public indecency. It's not a path, it's an outlet. Hearths generate heat, chimneys whisk away the resulting smoke to a less hazardous place, and no one is bitching about the concept of chimneys, come winter.

Finally, your whole entire thesis is just hilariously wrong. Suppose women were to blame for his fate, or don't; the fact is that he has another chance - it's in the title. In aggregate, he's not taking names and playing the part of a heterosexual time-travelling Jeffrey Dahmer. He's building relationships he previously missed, and experiencing a lot of sexual situations in the process. Oh lucky me, those are the things I'm on this website for.

As an aside, when I play this game I don't vibe with the "incel" part of the MC that resounded in you. In fact, I don't even notice it. I have enough disposable income that I could save up and buy a plane ticket to someplace where prostitution is legal and pay for sex if I really wanted to. The decision not to do that is mine. Therefore I'm single and voluntarily celibate... a volcel, I guess. Pronounced "voxel" because why not.
 
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