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Ren'Py Apartment #69 [v0.08] [Luxee]

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BigDaddyDom

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VepsrP said:
No one is saying that this game is only about MC and Nea.
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Uh, Modjoc00l literally said "This game is about Nea" and then doubled down on that statement.
VepsrP said:
we can assume that at least now she is the central character for the narrative
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No, we can't. The synopsis of the game very clearly indicates that Nea is just ONE of several LI's that have already been introduced that players can choose, if they wish. The fact that you can make Nea just a friend and skip her content (thankfully for many of us) also demonstrates this. That's fine many of you love your dick, but you don't have to try to make everything about that for the rest of us :rolleyes:
 
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BigDaddyDom said:
Uh, Modjoc00l literally said "This game is about Nea" and then doubled down on that statement.
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Like i already said: People don't get my point and I try to explain further.

Yes, I said the game is about Nea, but I never said the game ist ONLY about Nea.
But Nea is such an important part of this game, which makes this game different to most of the other games here.
If you don't like Nea....don't play a "light" version of this game, instead pick a completly other game. There are enough around to chose from.

For example if you thinking about watching "The Office" because you have heard many good things about it, but you don't like Steve Carell.
Should you still watch it? Or just the scenes without Steve Carell?
Or should you not watch it at all because you wouldn't get the same experience as others from it because you don't like Steve Carell?
 
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Badjourasmix

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Modjoc00l said:
Like i already said: People don't get my point and I try to explain further.

Yes, I said the game is about Nea, but I never said the game ist ONLY about Nea.
But Nea is such an important part of this game, which makes this game different to most of the other games here.
If you don't like Nea....don't play a "light" version of this game, instead pick a completly other game. There are enough around to chose from.

For example if you thinking about watching "The Office" because you have heard many good things about it, but you don't like Steve Carell.
Should you still watch it? Or just the scenes without Steve Carell?
Or should you not watch it at all because you wouldn't get the same experience as others from it because you don't like Steve Carell?
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I don't agree with the idea that if you don't like Nea you shouldn't play the game. Don't get me wrong I love Nea, she is my favorite character in the game right now. But I think even if you decide to skip her content, it's still worth it to play this game.
The analogy you made doesn't really make sense because a tv series and a game are two very different mediums of entertainment. With a game you have the ability to make some choices that influence the story, in this case you can make the choice to not pursue Nea, in a tv series you don't have that option.
 
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I have a question, is it confirmed if this game will have a harem route? There is no harem tag, I was searching through the thread and I kind of got mixed answers. The way the story is progressing kind of suggests that there will be a harem path. With so many characters it would suck a little bit if we didn't have a harem ending.
 
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Modjoc00l said:
Like i already said: People don't get my point and I try to explain further.

Yes, I said the game is about Nea, but I never said the game ist ONLY about Nea.
But Nea is such an important part of this game, which makes this game different to most of the other games here.
If you don't like Nea....don't play a "light" version of this game, instead pick a completly other game. There are enough around to chose from.

For example if you thinking about watching "The Office" because you have heard many good things about it, but you don't like Steve Carell.
Should you still watch it? Or just the scenes without Steve Carell?
Or should you not watch it at all because you wouldn't get the same experience as others from it because you don't like Steve Carell?
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Possibly the Dev would not have included the ability to bypass Nea's content if he thought the game was meaningless without it. In fact I think the game (the other paths) is quite well understood without seeing that content.

Certainly if you do you lose a lot of information, but I don't think it's important to understand what happens in the path of the other characters. I don't see such a strong interconnection between the paths that it prevents us from understanding what happens if you skip the events that occur on Nea's path.

Nea's story is possibly the best developed and most emotionally charged. Despite this, it doesn't make me interested in her more than as a friend.
 
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Badjourasmix said:
I have a question, is it confirmed if this game will have a harem route? There is no harem tag, I was searching through the thread and I kind of got mixed answers. The way the story is progressing kind of suggests that there will be a harem path. With so many characters it would suck a little bit if we didn't have a harem ending.
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Well, considering the fact that Cha'relle herself suggested that we meet with Nea, without parting with the first, already indicates a polygamous relationship. Plus, I personally have not found a single case where you can absolutely avoid any of the girls, except for the rejection of the Nea and a certain patch. Again, this is more like skipping scenes than an absolute avoiding. Perhaps there will be variations of harems, as it was in the previous game, but it is unlikely to be a completely monogamous relationship. :unsure:
 
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I don't even know what this argument is about. First off, please don't start this eternal NTR fight again. I, and others too, don't like to chew through what NTR actually really means by definition. It seems hopeless to explain that, most of all guys
seemingly don't want to understand it anyway. Regardless, NTR is not a taboo at all, it´s just one more fetish of many. On top of that, there is no NTR in this game. It's not even planned

Back to the topic. Guys, you should maybe remember this is a sandbox game. In contrast to a VN, which really has a continuous red thread until the end, based on a main plot, a sandbox game usually has one rough, short main storyline. Everything else is what we make of it. This time, there are many main girls, some side girls. Some routes will be connected to each other, others not. And in sandbox games there never is the one real storyline! When we are done with one story, we can pursue another. As a rule, each main girl has at least 1 own ending later. Which is our real ending, we decide by ourself. So it will be similar to MOTH, as example.

Incidentally, Nea is only 1 main „girl“ out of many. In addition, you can choose whether something should happen between you and “her” or not. So you´re not forced to have sex with „her“.
 
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Well, considering the fact that Cha'relle herself suggested that we meet with Nea, without parting with the first, already indicates a polygamous relationship. Plus, I personally have not found a single case where you can absolutely avoid any of the girls, except for the rejection of the Nea and a certain patch. Again, this is more like skipping scenes than an absolute avoiding. Perhaps there will be variations of harems, as it was in the previous game, but it is unlikely to be a completely monogamous relationship. :unsure:
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It all starts with the mother giving advice to her daughters on how to seduce their brother. If that's not a clue to the possibility of a harem ending, I don't know what else the developer can do to make that clear. Possibly Cha'relle declaring it (or at least open that posibility) at the end of this update is also quite an important clue.
 
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Modjoc00l said:
Like i already said: People don't get my point and I try to explain further.

Yes, I said the game is about Nea, but I never said the game ist ONLY about Nea.
But Nea is such an important part of this game, which makes this game different to most of the other games here.
If you don't like Nea....don't play a "light" version of this game, instead pick a completly other game. There are enough around to chose from.

For example if you thinking about watching "The Office" because you have heard many good things about it, but you don't like Steve Carell.
Should you still watch it? Or just the scenes without Steve Carell?
Or should you not watch it at all because you wouldn't get the same experience as others from it because you don't like Steve Carell?
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Nea aside, that advice is wrong. Badjourasmix did a damn good job of explaining why. If anyone follows that kind of logic they would miss out of some great times and vns.
 
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A few months back i mentioned on here that I couldnt progress on Evelyns quest at all, the game will not allow you to complete stage 2! I redownloaded it recently and the same problem occurs!

Has anyone gone past satge 2 of Evelyn, otherwise 2 other routes are stopped too!
 
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BlasKyau said:
It all starts with the mother giving advice to her daughters on how to seduce their brother. If that's not a clue to the possibility of a harem ending, I don't know what else the developer can do to make that clear. Possibly Cha'relle declaring it (or at least open that posibility) at the end of this update is also quite an important clue.
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I agree. But his mother has only plans so far, how to wrap up her son and cover him with herself and her daughters, about which MC does not know. And then Cha'relle told him straight to his face, he can meet with others, as long as he don't forget about the one who opened this path - "without cheating". :D
 
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exazubi said:
Back to the topic. Guys, you should maybe remember this is a sandbox game. In contrast to a VN, which really has a continuous red thread until the end, based on a main plot, a sandbox game usually has one rough, short main storyline. Everything else is what we make of it. This time, there are many main girls, some side girls. Some routes will be connected to each other, others not. And in sandbox games there never is the one real storyline! When we are done with one story, we can pursue another. As a rule, each main girl has at least 1 own ending later. Which is our real ending, we decide by ourself. So it will be similar to MOTH, as example.
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As far as I remember (sorry, can't point you towards a specific post) Luxee said, that he is only using sandbox elements of sorts.
The explanation was, that the way he works, in a VN he would feel the need to not skip time, but to fill every time of every day with content. And with the storylines having obvious gaps in them until the next event sometimes, that would result in us clicking through a lot of crap, not seeing certain characters for quite some time potentially or him feeling like he didn't tell a coherent story in his VN.

Therefore, he is telling his vision of this VN content-wise, but without himself feeling the need to fill in placeholders to have no time gaps in his story, because we can just go to the next interesting part of the story and/or the character we are interested in.
I'm pretty sure he even admitted that this is not necessarily a problem, but his problem. Using sandbox structures is just his way of coping with it. The memories are just Luxees variant of an 'and then the next day ...' - blending.

So I would expect no 'empty spaces' that get filled out later like in many other sandboxes and a VN-like story with that red thread as well as optimizations so you can see on a first glance where/when you can do something, so this doesn't evolve in a search for something to do kind of game.
 
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