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angst makes it better. I suggest most of the plot revolves around getting them and the player comfortable with their bodies and their dicks--that should always be a goal.
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With Nea there are two options in the game without Nea's mod: Romance, where the MC prevents Nea from jumping. Or the version where, we suppose, she jumps. In the first you see a more or less long and complete scene. In the second two black screens with a text that makes it clear that something bad has happened.. The Lord Ashram mod includes an alternate unofficial route for Nea.
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a little bit of angst is always nice in fictional media, but there is also important to tell the success stories of people who already struggled with the whole thing and are able to live their lives according to their identity. but I would also see a little bit of angst
I gotta say, I really like how this game got us to talk about such important issues like trans people suicide rates and the importance of accepting people for who they are...
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That's basically what I meant.
If the player wants to keep her around, fine, great. But if she jumps, to me, that is sort of canon too, right. I mean Lord Ashram edited the mod in that scene and she gets mad, like really mad, and leaves the game for good.
I just meant that I'd rather have Luxee's "canonical" choice rather than her being mad and leaving.
Rather have the official choice, either way, if it's coming from Luxee, no matter what choice, it has to be "canon" in some way, right?
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agreed. I used to be just as transphobic as some here... maybe more so. games like this changed my opinion.a little bit of angst is always nice in fictional media, but there is also important to tell the success stories of people who already struggled with the whole thing and are able to live their lives according to their identity. but I would also see a little bit of angst
I gotta say, I really like how this game got us to talk about such important issues like trans people suicide rates and the importance of accepting people for who they are...
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Well, not to be the arrogant one here, but I think all of this stemmed from me and my comment a few days ago then my asking if what Nea did mirrors real life, and the trends of rising suicide. Ever since then, this is what we've been talking about. A conversation actually I'm shocked I'm participating in.a little bit of angst is always nice in fictional media, but there is also important to tell the success stories of people who already struggled with the whole thing and are able to live their lives according to their identity. but I would also see a little bit of angst
I gotta say, I really like how this game got us to talk about such important issues like trans people suicide rates and the importance of accepting people for who they are...
https://f95zone.to/threads/apartment-69-v0-06-luxee.18630/post-7095006
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This is all about the attitude.
Nea coulda been just like the skank hanging out with the bully.
Had she just given into that poki-poki attitude of that asshole, she would just live a
confortable whoring life being happy of all the mayhem brought on by her bully hubbie.
We have a lot of comics and a load of movies + animated movies portraying the
sociopathic serial killer babe who likes to fkk around like some fun to be bombshell.
Would anyone even care of her death and/or what was between her legs if
Nea was this discount Harley Quinn persona?
Nea coulda been just like the skank hanging out with the bully.
Had she just given into that poki-poki attitude of that asshole, she would just live a
confortable whoring life being happy of all the mayhem brought on by her bully hubbie.
We have a lot of comics and a load of movies + animated movies portraying the
sociopathic serial killer babe who likes to fkk around like some fun to be bombshell.
Would anyone even care of her death and/or what was between her legs if
Nea was this discount Harley Quinn persona?
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I think that many of us have come to rethink what we believed and felt before.
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Probably right about that. I guess this game made it come to the forefront of my mind, and not just mine. I keep myself within very VERY specific news circles, and I care much more about certain things than others. I watch and read NHK and other Japanese news sites; I completely avoid American media (movies, news, TV shows, etc) hell even my Twitter is all about Japan, so I don't really see or come across this stuff.
But I think Luxee did it right to mirror Nea's feelings after he turned her down romantically. If it mirrors real life? Can't get anymore real and impactful than that.
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removing content with "underage looking" is against the idea of freedom of thoughts. i'd suggest to remove the rule 7 as it would be the eqvivalent of thought-policing. nothing wrong with fantasies
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Suggestions, requests and similar to the politics of the forum should be done in a different place than the thread of a specific game. I think that the rule 7 is motivated by the fact that it's better to avoid problems with the laws of some countries.
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Exactly. It's not the place to talk about said rule in the actual game thread. Perhaps General Discussions or Off-Topic would be the best place to go. But it's a rule, as mentioned, to avoid legal entanglements.
story goes nowehere. it says mom and sisters completed but nea and some other girls are not where they should be. i think we will wait for the next update. right?
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That pretty much goes hand in hand with an earlier comment I made about how Luxee is spending so much time/care to make sure Nea's story is one of the more complex ones. They really care about trans youth.
Except if someone uses the threat of suicide to get you to date them or even just have sex with them, that's pretty awful. I follow one woman on Tik-Tok who repeatedly had that happen to her by at least one ex, and I suspect her experience isn't all that rare. It's emotional blackmail and manipulation. Maybe it's not Nea herself directly sending that message in the game (I can't recall if she ever says or implies it), but the game definitely sends it as written now. The MC should be able to act as a friend and ally of Nea, with their support being enough to make that difference in Nea's struggle. That would be a much better message to send.
Obviously, as has been well determined in this thread and what many of us already knew, the suicide rate for trans youth is insanely high. It's awesome that Luxee is touching upon that issue in the game and it seems to be opening some eyes here. But to tie it to a story where Nea's life depends on whether the MC is willing to have sex with her or at least be romantically involved with her undoes a lot of the good done by the story. There's still some vagueness with the story and the entire game is still a work in progress, so perhaps in the long run some of this will be proven wrong or changed. We'll just have to see.
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it would be pretty f*cked up if it turned out that Nea would threaten the MC to do this...
And that's exactly why I don't believe that that's the case here!
She would've actually killed herself and she would never blackmail the MC considering that every bit of initiative in that relationship came from the MC (apart from her beeing a pervert)
Her whole world revolves around the MC and she proved that she would never try to hurt the MC in any shape or form.
And considering that it could've very well happened that she kills herself if the MC was a minute to late even if the MC realized he's into her should be enough prove that Nea is just a cute, innocent, slightly perverted girl in a body which doesn't represent her inner self.
You had 3 choices:
1. Ignore her in the beginning (and considering how hard she was beeing bullied means suicide is highly likely)
2. Decide you don't want to be in a relationship with her when she's in a highly emotional state --> suicide
2.5. Mod (as far as I understood the comments about it) --> she's angry with him but considering her only emotional support in her life is now missing --> eventual suicide likely
3. Be in a relationship with her --> happy end
Now the beeing a friend choice is missing - however considering that MC treated her as such up until this point probably means that Luxee considers her only having those outcomes.
Could she have found happiness with the MC only seeing her as a friend? - Probably
But in real life there are many what ifs and many suicides which could've been prevented if circumstances where different.
Maybe that's what Luxee was trying to tell us!
Do we have the guts to play a game which from the very start makes it clear, that a trans-person is a very central figure and we still decide to only be friends with her then we have this wonderful girl on our conscions who's only fault was beeing born with the wrong gender.
It is cruel that the choice of just beeing a friend is taken but sometimes life can be cruel - heck it's cruel most of the time with whole countries sentencing LGBTQ-People to death if they're found out or forcing woman to cover themselves out of their homes or countries actively persuing genocide while the whole world watches and does nothing.
... well this became dark
But honestly I don't know what Luxees plan and idea was/is.
I just thought that Nea was cute and wanted to do everything so that her shitty life could've been a little better.
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BTW I had this weird dream where Nea was beeing kidnapped by cyborgs from the future.
Her asshole friend (Kyle I believe) turned out to be trans as well and was kidnapped as well only he was kidnapped right after he spilled Neas secret accidentally.
MC and his sisters go on a road trip to try find and resque Nea.
Eve somehow was able to track Neas phone so they had a lead at least.
Nea meanwhile makes ammends with her former former friend and together they succesfully found a way to contact the MC and after a showdown where the very fabric of time and space has been threatened Nea is finally resqued while her former former friend sacrificed herself so that the cyborgs wouldn't get her.
I guess I somehow blended the stories of "Savior", "Apartment 69" and "How to fix the future" together.
Her asshole friend (Kyle I believe) turned out to be trans as well and was kidnapped as well only he was kidnapped right after he spilled Neas secret accidentally.
MC and his sisters go on a road trip to try find and resque Nea.
Eve somehow was able to track Neas phone so they had a lead at least.
Nea meanwhile makes ammends with her former former friend and together they succesfully found a way to contact the MC and after a showdown where the very fabric of time and space has been threatened Nea is finally resqued while her former former friend sacrificed herself so that the cyborgs wouldn't get her.
I guess I somehow blended the stories of "Savior", "Apartment 69" and "How to fix the future" together.