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JoeTheMC84

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I think that maybe the reason so much early content has focused on getting Nea's story out there was to get her content out of the way, so to speak. Since that story line has the potential to be contentious and some players will avoid it, by getting most of Nea's content done quickly now future updates can focus on other LIs. Nea will still get a little bit of content here and there, I'm sure; we still have to get Nea okay with the Harem Idea, deal with Nea's dad, and if Nea jumped in some people's game deal with that aftermath, but the big arc of Nea's story is kind of done. Now those who don't like Nea or who have other favorite LIs will not have to be upset because another later update or content is focused of Nea. Just my idea for the reason so much of the early focus seems to be Nea centered.
 

menhir_

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I think styggtuff12 summed up my thoughts on the latest update perfectly. There's no problem including suicide/self-harm content in a game if you give fair warning, i.e. in the tags or as a TW at the start of the game. But to have a light-hearted VN slam me with an attempted (or successful) suicide that kind of guilts me into romancing a character? That sucks. There are plenty of other games I could play if I wanted to see that type of content, which I don't. This scene with Nea made me extremely uncomfortable and I'll be avoiding Luxee's content for the foreseeable future.
 

lemonfreak

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I think styggtuff12 summed up my thoughts on the latest update perfectly. There's no problem including suicide/self-harm content in a game if you give fair warning, i.e. in the tags or as a TW at the start of the game. But to have a light-hearted VN slam me with an attempted (or successful) suicide that kind of guilts me into romancing a character? That sucks. There are plenty of other games I could play if I wanted to see that type of content, which I don't. This scene with Nea made me extremely uncomfortable and I'll be avoiding Luxee's content for the foreseeable future.
Yeah, it's not like Nea was portrayed as being a victim of bullying or as the child of a transphobic bigot prior to her suicide :FacePalm:
 

jamdan

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Yeah, it's not like Nea was portrayed as being a victim of bullying or as the child of a transphobic bigot prior to her suicide :FacePalm:
That actually made it worse. MC was Nea's friend, so when he rejects her, that quite literally pushes her over the edge. Rejected by her dad, her classmates, and now her only friend? Brutal.

If MC can just happily go on his way after that, he's sort of a psychopath himself too.

Seemed like Luxee decided to go too far and take the easy way out at the same time. Couldn't think of a non-romance path with her or didn't want to do one, so just have her die instead. Problem solved.
 

lemonfreak

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That actually made it worse. MC was Nea's friend, so when he rejects her, that quite literally pushes her over the edge. Rejected by her dad, her classmates, and now her only friend? Brutal.

If MC can just happily go on his way after that, he's sort of a psychopath himself too.

Seemed like Luxee decided to go too far and take the easy way out at the same time. Couldn't think of a non-romance path with her or didn't want to do one, so just have her die instead. Problem solved.
You assume the story does continue on the Nea death route. For all you know, the next update will be the final one of that path and the story will only continue with Nea alive with a further branch to determine whether she an LI or the PLI :unsure:
 

Corambis

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Yeah, it's not like Nea was portrayed as being a victim of bullying or as the child of a transphobic bigot prior to her suicide :FacePalm:
The problem is that there's no middle ground. Either you engage in a romantic path with Nea, whether you want to or not, or they kill themselves. That's an unfair burden to put on the player, let alone someone in real life. Yes, there's definitely an effort here to cast light on the insanely high suicide rate among transpeople. But it's handled poorly. If there's a suicide path for Nea, it should be where the MC themselves bullies Nea or at least doesn't do enough non-romantically to be a friend and help this bullied person. Or if they toy with Nea's affections and use them sexually before dumping them. But not because they friendzone them.
 

Ghostface Reborn

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The problem is that there's no middle ground. Either you engage in a romantic path with Nea, whether you want to or not, or they kill themselves. That's an unfair burden to put on the player, let alone someone in real life. Yes, there's definitely an effort here to cast light on the insanely high suicide rate among transpeople. But it's handled poorly. If there's a suicide path for Nea, it should be where the MC themselves bullies Nea or at least doesn't do enough non-romantically to be a friend and help this bullied person. Or if they toy with Nea's affections and use them sexually before dumping them. But not because they friendzone them.
sending this to Lux.
 
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RandyTyr

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You assume the story does continue on the Nea death route. For all you know, the next update will be the final one of that path and the story will only continue with Nea alive with a further branch to determine whether she an LI or the PLI :unsure:
I'm kinda hoping that this is the case.
 

YogSothoth1982

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You assume the story does continue on the Nea death route. For all you know, the next update will be the final one of that path and the story will only continue with Nea alive with a further branch to determine whether she an LI or the PLI :unsure:
If so, I'm assuming that will be the last update I play.
 
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Modjoc00l

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If so, I'm assuming that will be the last update I play.
I guess nobody will care as long as you will be gone here too.

As I said very early on, this IS a game centering around Nea despite what a lot of angry people say.
Everybody who starts this game KNOWS what to expect and has no right to cry about the lack of content without Nea.
There a lot...really A LOT of other games that better suits other interests.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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I guess nobody will care as long as you will be gone here too.

As I said very early on, this IS a game centing around Nea despite what a lot of angry people say.
Everybody who starts this game KNOWS what to expect and has no right to cry about the lack of content without Nea.
There a lot...really A LOT of other games that better suits other interests.
I don't care about your opinion either, so I guess I'll proceed to ignore you.
 

Chagatai Khan

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I guess nobody will care as long as you will be gone here too.

As I said very early on, this IS a game centing around Nea despite what a lot of angry people say.
Everybody who starts this game KNOWS what to expect and has no right to cry about the lack of content without Nea.
There a lot...really A LOT of other games that better suits other interests.
Sorry but that is simpy not true. When I started this VN, two or three updates ago, I had no clue that the story would progress in this fashion. Everything seemed to point to at least three different paths: Romance Nea, Befriend Nea and Ignore Nea. Me, and I would think many other people who are fans of Luxee's earlier work but not interested in pursuing Trans LI's, assumed that just like in Parental Love with Sofi, we could help her out without having to become romantically involved with her. If, as some people here suggest, there will only be a Nea route in the future then I'm out. Obviously the devs should do as they like, but I don't think it's smart how they really have not been clear in communicating this aspect of the VN.
 

toccata

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Sorry but that is simpy not true. When I started this VN, two or three updates ago, I had no clue that the story would progress in this fashion.
This is a sex game. That is, all the main characters have sex with the MC. If the MC doesn't want to have sex with one of them, then the story line is over for that one. This is the case in most sex games. And, you can skip sexual if you don't like something there. So I don't understand your criticism.

I myself, I think that the problems of Nena are portrayed very well, impressively, quite realistically and amazingly sweetly. I really appreciate the portrayal of Nena's problems and feelings. And it made a great impression on me. Also, I don't understand why sex with a tranny bothers you, but sex with the "somewhat young" Evelyn doesn't.
 
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