- Apr 3, 2023
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Just to let everyone know...still haven't heard a word from Lux on DISCORD about this at all. Nothing's been happening, said, mentioned or even slyly hinted at
My brother in Christ, the game is in version 0.06...I konw some people didn't like Nea but to me the problem of the game was
there was no continuity it felt like everything was a random sex scene imo
Still most of the games I play the dev knows what the plot is going to be from the startMy brother in Christ, the game is in version 0.06...
No amount of new updates is going to fix that though. Its because of the decision Luxee made that the game's concept is looking back from the future at specific memories from the MC's past. So we get certain scenes, but little to no build up for them so they don't have much impact. We don't get a feel for the love interests or get to see them as fully fleshed out individuals. Most are just fetishes wrapped in flesh. So for the loli sister or the loli asian or other love interests we have sudden escalations of nudes being sent and things like that, but not a good feel for why it is all happening or why we should honestly care. Future updates will just jump us ahead in the relationships without the context that would actually give the scenes we did see any meaning.My brother in Christ, the game is in version 0.06...
Personally I had no problems at all with that. I had 0 issues to connect to the characters through the memories.So we get certain scenes, but little to no build up for them so they don't have much impact. We don't get a feel for the love interests or get to see them as fully fleshed out individuals.
This game could've worked just as well, if not better, if it was a traditional VN. Credit to Lux for trying something new, but as its been mentioned, it's not working, and the bond with the characters players tend to make isn't easily built with the "memories" option and the fact you can't do many events unless a certain character's event chain has been advanced, one of my BIGGEST gripes about this game. If it was a regular VN, none of that "central character" dependency would be needed and this game wouldn't take as much heat as its gotten.No amount of new updates is going to fix that though. Its because of the decision Luxee made that the game's concept is looking back from the future at specific memories from the MC's past. So we get certain scenes, but little to no build up for them so they don't have much impact. We don't get a feel for the love interests or get to see them as fully fleshed out individuals. Most are just fetishes wrapped in flesh. So for the loli sister or the loli asian or other love interests we have sudden escalations of nudes being sent and things like that, but not a good feel for why it is all happening or why we should honestly care. Future updates will just jump us ahead in the relationships without the context that would actually give the scenes we did see any meaning.
I applaud Luxee for trying new things with this game and just not trying to make a game identical to PL. Except PL was a much better game, even at "only" six updates in. The things Luxee chose to do differently in this game just aren't working, like the memory thing, or the sandbox, trying to blend Nea's story with a harem game, or any number of other things. There's an awful lot of valid criticism that sometimes gets overshadowed by the occasional blatant transphobism or gets lumped in with it unfairly. On the other hand, the main praise I see for the game time and again is literally just "Nea is cute". I think most of those people would be just as content with a slideshow showing different increasingly lewd renders of Nea or just a simple visual novel. Luxee could have knocked that out pretty quickly. Except Luxee wanted this game to be something that could be as popular and lucrative as PL was, and they'll get zero shade from me on that. Money to do something you like is good. What I will throw shade at is all of the bad choices they made to get us to this point and their increasing lack of engagement with the game and their supporters. I was one of those paid supporters for most of PL and the first few updates of A69, and at this point I regret spending any money on this game because my support of it was based on promises Luxee hasn't kept, and what I was given just wasn't anywhere near the same quality as what I'd come to expect from Luxee.
Guess this Pool Party is gonna be real huge if it took so long to make it.Yes, the number increase was tiny, but personally, I was happy to see the number increase at all, and that Luxee is still with us.
I managed to locate the previous progress update from January (that someone else had posted), to compare the two side by side, and I see the finished task was the "Build pool party exploration" one.
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I think the problem there is in the mental state of the developer or his social workload, and not the amount of content in a potential update.Guess this Pool Party is gonna be real huge if it took so long to make it.
Guess this Pool Party is gonna be real huge if it took so long to make it.
A long gap of time between updates does often end up setting the expectation that the update will be something big or momentous when it does hit. Fans mentally build up the update prior to it being released. If it turns out to just be another update or doesn't move things along fast enough, then people are inevitably disappointed. Its one thing to have mediocre updates when you're producing on a more regular schedule. People don't care as much if the March update is full of story-building if they know the next update will be out by May and will likely have more interesting content. I think devs would be smart to make sure that if their fans had to wait extra long for their update, that it is worth their wait. Although adding content as a means of making the update more rewarding doesn't help if it delays the dev another few months or more. Partially, I think devs need to re-think the pacing of their story and their plans for each update if they can't commit to a regular schedule. When you only have 1-2 updates a year or less, any dev should take care to make sure those updates deliver and make the players feel like its worth their time to wait for the next one.I think the problem there is in the mental state of the developer or his social workload, and not the amount of content in a potential update.
Sooo "Fuck the dev's mental state, if they make us wait that long it better be the biggest update" ? Because that's what it sounds like, honestly. But you're not usually like that so I'm gonna chuck it on the idea that it wasn't greatly written.I think devs would be smart to make sure that if their fans had to wait extra long for their update, that it is worth their wait.
Adding content as a mean to make it look like you worked your ass off is called artificially inflating content. It's what some AAA studios do with modern games by making you backtrack, farm useless crap and amputate experience gain. It never works out the way they intend to.Although adding content as a means of making the update more rewarding doesn't help if it delays the dev another few months or more.
The thing to keep in mind here is that Luxee never made a sandboxy game like this one. They were upfront about not having experience in it. And some will say "Then they should have done like the previous game", but no. No, because you never get any experience if you never do it.Partially, I think devs need to re-think the pacing of their story and their plans for each update if they can't commit to a regular schedule. When you only have 1-2 updates a year or less, any dev should take care to make sure those updates deliver and make the players feel like its worth their time to wait for the next one.
I just hope they're doing alright enough, and not pushing through while in burnout.I'm just glad that there is progress at all... and Luxee hasn't given up.
The problem is, aside from Nea, most of the abuse and harassment Luxee gets is probably from the "lack of update". So I can understand the pressure of putting one out anyway...If Luxee is in a fragile mental state, then dropping another update is the last thing they should be doing. They should just call it good, and rest on their laurels. To do otherwise is not going to put them in a better place mentally. It could be the perfect update, and people would still complain. We'll get the open transphobes coming back or new ones discovering the game, to name just one of the bad things that will happen. If its an update that people in general like and give positive feedback to temper the bad, that can be overlooked somewhat hopefully by Luxee. But if it's a bad update, or just one that makes people go "we waited a year for this?" then I guess I don't see the value for either Luxee or his fans. Most people already assume they're out of the game. Just stay out. Luxee and this game have dropped off of their radar. But if they're looking to get back in, it would help if they could do it with some good cards in their hand in the form of a good update. And they need to be ready for the chaos that will ensue if another update drops. Personally I don't know why anyone would subject themselves to any of that unless they had to. I'd have to be pretty confident in my next update before I'd risk all that again.
After all the BS in this thread (and maybe elsewhere), about Nea, I can understand him taking his time/in no hurry to release.I really don't know but I don't think Luxee has any mental problem. What I can remember was that he wanted to create a different style game and according his inspiration he tries his best to learn and create this game. But any problem with the delays it seems to me that real life is holding him back and although what he is facing, he still tries to deliver what he can do.
That's what I think.