datarelay
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I get the idea, i even like the idea, but damn, the game is in a very amateurish state
Rutonat
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It's the first attempt of the dev to make something mroe sandbox-like. Their previous game was extremely linear.
So, it's not surprising. Growing pains and all that.
i am just happy it still gets updates.
for a while i thought it was abandound.
can't wait for patch 0.10
Because the MC is a white guy, there is a black girl and two Asian girls, and all three of them are romanceable (to an extent, for now.) Why else?
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kansasdude
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the MC works up the courage to stroke Nea's girl dick (is that how it's called?), now the MC just needs to work up the courage to suck Nea's girl dick...or would Nea be completely fine if that never happens?
Better yet, the MC talks Nea into a full transition and is the first to penetrate her newly crafted girl hole!
Azraelith
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I... don't think that's how transitioning works.Better yet, the MC talks Nea into a full transition and is the first to penetrate her newly crafted girl hole!
Nea literally says for masturbation she focuses on her ass and doesn't touch her dick because she doesn't like it or rather doesn't get much out of it. So MC can give her more pleasure by letting Nea suck him off or playing with her butthole or fucking her than she'd get of him touching or sucking her dick. That's a totally viable play through.
Just as much as MC doing it and Nea changing her mind.
Or getting an operation and a fully functional vagina and womb for pregnancy. It's a game and a fantasy. Everything is possible.
Besides Nea is so happy that MC is her boyfriend, she wouldn't mind having to hide her dick for the rest of her life if MC needed her to do that in order for them to be together.
Just as much as MC doing it and Nea changing her mind.
Or getting an operation and a fully functional vagina and womb for pregnancy. It's a game and a fantasy. Everything is possible.
Besides Nea is so happy that MC is her boyfriend, she wouldn't mind having to hide her dick for the rest of her life if MC needed her to do that in order for them to be together.
reidanota
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But why would he ever need her to do that? No offense, it's just that the entire story arc is so wholesome (soppy, even) that it would break character if the MC showed that kind of attitude.
I'm sure they meant that transitioning surgery generally isn't imposed by one partner in a couple demanding from the other partner that they surgically modify their body. Would be fine if Nea herself decided to go through surgery, even if that decision were inspired by the MC (optionally) showing discomfort with her dick, but any conscious request by the MC for her to do it would feel like a darker path, more in line with a dom/sub relationship in the BDSM sense - nothing against it, just think it should be clearly designed as such. Not saying also that I'd prefer one over the other, but the shift from the current wolesome tone would be so great, it would warrant branching paths with her. Worth considering if the added complexity would pay off.
Hm, considering that so far our MC:
- bangs everything that moves, from his closest family to some random toilet girl;
- acts as a white knight towards Nea, jumping at other characters calling her "gay" and demanding her girly acceptance by other characters;
- spends 90% of her route being EXTRA careful to deny seeing her as anything close to attractive, and when he finally does so, his first reaction is "Wait, did I just thought that she's cute? I'M NOT GAY, AM I????".
No offense, but I don't think there's anything left to break at thins point. It'd be much better if Nea had her own separate spin-off game or something (with different MC, and preferably different writer).
reidanota
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Right. I'd guess over 50% of the users on this site come looking for games that feature incest or harem, or both. Hardly unique to this game, mostly fantasy and escapism and not necessarily an embracement of "moral degeneracy".
I think I agree with you that Nea's story stands out, it seems much more developed than others and too often blind to the fact that the MC already has a girlfriend. I mean, you go through a handful of episodes with Nea and there's not a single thought of the MC about his actual girlfriend (similarly with other girls, only on occasion). If I were to suggest any changes to what's already in, I'd make Cha'relle more present in the MC's heart and mind, make him confront his feelings for other girls with his feelings for her, and have them talk more about it. What there is of Cha'relle's consent/approval for his other relationships is interesting, but remains suggestive. Definitely I'd focus on her cuckquean tendencies to spice up the harem, make it a center piece of the game and leave the loli stuff to lewd patchers. But that's just my preference, none of the younger girls are my type and, frankly, not even Nea. I'm more interested in seeing content with Cha'relle and bad girl Heather, but try to remain positive about the other arcs.
Also put the bullies in their place with great pleasure. The MC IS the white knight type, like it or not. The moral compass in this game seems to be of the sort "good is making the people I care about happy". That's partly why I said it felt soppy at times. Easy way out of any conflict. It's in light of this reading that I think the MC convincing or manipulating Nea to change her body through surgery would be out of character, but not if she herself came up with the idea and the player could choose if the MC embraced it or advised her against it. Either would be fine, in that case.
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I would like that too, but we have to chalk some of it off to the nature of the game as a sandbox, the LIs have to exist in parallel to one another because if they don't, you get a linear game with extra steps. Which this game is to an extent already. That's also a reason why I prefer good and coherent written stories over the supposed freedom a sandbox offers
The problem with that White-Knight-plotline is the hypocrisy that I've mentioned - how MC does his best to protect Nea from horrible bigots seeing her as a man and calling her "gay", while he himself subconsciously doesn't sees her as a girl - again with that "I just thought that she's cute, I'm not gay, am I???". I recall some people used to claim that such mindset is a very realistic representation of how it happens in the real life, but that doesn't makes the obvious hypocrisy any less disgusting.
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Now I see what you mean. But still think we don't need to project a final judgment onto it. Characters don't have to be static, many well written characters are dynamic and/or show some sort of progression throughout a story. I think the writing here is naive at times, but it seems to show an intention of progression, where the main character shows the "right instincts" early on, but later confronts his own feelings, inner demons, prejudice. Not dismissing your assessment of "hypocrisy", just saying it doesn't have to be final. Maybe they should be more obvious about it, if Heather can do soul searching and change her ways, why can't the MC do it himself? Actually, though I like Heather's character, I was partly disappointed that she was later shown (as they always are) as not really a part of the "gang" she hung out with. Typically, rather than embracing a character's evolution, authors tend to "redeem" them by showing they weren't that bad to begin with. It may be soppy, but regret and forgiveness can do better for a character than suddenly repudiating the people and mindset they were involved with before. Still like Heather, though. Like the MC, not perfect, but the right tone is there.
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