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New progress update just dropped. Thoughts on the new character sprite update? I prefer the old sprites because it looked hand-drawn and didn't have the excess "realistic" detail that AI generation usually has as seen with the new one.
 
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Ion.TemUS

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Like the sprite update. It seems more photorealistic. Especially for Rin its a good change.
Just need to be careful that it doesn't become too different from environmental art and other characters and stuff.

I like though that dev is leaving the initial sprites like they are (for now), cause I think that its better to keep pushing for more content and plot progression, can always go over it before the eventual full release.
 

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New progress update just dropped. Thoughts on the new character sprite update? I prefer the old sprites because it looked hand-drawn and didn't have the excess "realistic" detail that AI generation usually has as seen with the new one.
Big downgrade for me. The sprites before were just right. Too much detail imo... sometimes less is more.

Thats the problem when you cook an update for too long. You start second guessing and redoing way too much stuff.

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Big downgrade for me. The sprites before were just right. Too much detail imo... sometimes less is more.

Thats the problem when you cook an update for too long. You start second guessing and redoing way too much stuff.

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Exactly. It doesn't even look better. The proportions of the previous one are much better. The chest, hips, thighs..

The new one looks too flat and thin overall.
 

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Big downgrade for me. The sprites before were just right. Too much detail imo... sometimes less is more.

Thats the problem when you cook an update for too long. You start second guessing and redoing way too much stuff.

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It seems to me that she has lost some of the curves on her body, changing to something thinner and slimmer, which she had before. I don't know, but it seems strange to me.
 

Zeref@123#

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The new rin looks much better. Although Watanabe inota looks a little weird. I prefer his hold design.
 

GreenOwl

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I really hope the new jun design will grow on me, because right now I definitely prefer the old sprite for her.
 

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I think both sets look good as long as they don't grow extra fingers, though I get that people don't like change.
Still far better that it happens now rather than several updates in.

Just an observation though, the new Inota looks like he's wearing way oversized shoes.
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I think both sets look good as long as they don't grow extra fingers, though I get that people don't like change.
Still far better that it happens now rather than several updates in.

Just an observation though, the new Inota looks like he's wearing way oversized shoes.
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Bahaha ill try to fix this later. Usually these shoes won't appear on screen anyway. But good catch nonetheless xD

I'm seeing that people seem a bit mixed about the changes but I do believe that they look good and make sense in-game!
 

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To reiterate on my point a bit. The previous artstyle I didnt really feel any AI "stink". The new pictures definitely have that. Its hard to describe where I get that feeling from. Maybe its the detail... I dont know. But this game stood out for me mainly because I did not really get that AI stink, its a bit of a shame to see that lost. At least partially. You took something that felt unique and made it more generic, like other AI stuff out there.

Of course your game dev, if you feel that the new style is right for you, knock yourself out.
 

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To reiterate on my point a bit. The previous artstyle I didnt really feel any AI "stink". The new pictures definitely have that. Its hard to describe where I get that feeling from. Maybe its the detail... I dont know. But this game stood out for me mainly because I did not really get that AI stink, its a bit of a shame to see that lost. At least partially. You took something that felt unique and made it more generic, like other AI stuff out there.

Of course your game dev, if you feel that the new style is right for you, knock yourself out.
We can only discuss and give our opinions on the new designs. At the end of the day, it will be decided by those who are creating the game and those who are financially supporting it. It's a shame, but there's nothing we can do about it.
 
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Vonsatia

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Hey guys!

I've taken you guy's feedback and also, I consulted one of my friends who's an artist himself and I got some good advice regarding this. I do believe there's some charm which I may have lost with the new sprites.

Specifically with the simplicity and the feel of the characters. I think I've come up with a much better middle ground with the details I want while also keeping with the style that's already established with the sprites.

Here they are!

Tomoya Rin:

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Watanabe Inota:

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Kimura Jun:

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I'm happy with how everyone turned out to be. Hope you guys like it!

Regards,

Vonsatia.
 

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Hey guys!

I've taken you guy's feedback and also, I consulted one of my friends who's an artist himself and I got some good advice regarding this. I do believe there's some charm which I may have lost with the new sprites.

Specifically with the simplicity and the feel of the characters. I think I've come up with a much better middle ground with the details I want while also keeping with the style that's already established with the sprites.

Here they are!

Tomoya Rin:

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Watanabe Inota:

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Kimura Jun:

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I'm happy with how everyone turned out to be. Hope you guys like it!

Regards,

Vonsatia.
I must be crazy but it just seems like the old new pictures, just from different angles. Okay the legs are better I guess. Its still a downgrade. At least for me...

I dont know why you think the oldest version is bad. I much prefer the skin color and overall feel. It feels distinct, vibrant, with character. Like an actual artist with his own distinct arstyle made them. The new ones feel like the amalgam of artstyles that AI tends to do. I mean the output is better than most other stuff out there, but it doesnt stand out like it used to.

I am starting to think that the old artstyle was problematic for you, since the AI had trouble outputting it consistently? Maybe I am reaching, but at least that I would understand.

I dont know, I dont want to keep harping on you. You obviously are putting a lot of work into this. I just dont get it.
 

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I just wish the dev stopped trying to please everyone and just push the new update
through the door sooner, rather than later...
 
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Zeref@123#

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Yeah it's looks good. Go for it. At this point you can't please everyone. Also this is just the spirits. The in game art has not changed.
 

Vonsatia

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I just wish the dev stopped trying to please everyone and just push the new update
through the door sooner, rather than later...
Yeah, I know you can't please everyone. I only make changes if I personally feel the same way. Redoing the sprites took me around just 3-4 hours haha. It's a bit of a slippery slope when I communicate changes or updates since it invites discourse. Discourse is good as it helps me understand how the readers may react about what they like or don't like. But yeah, all I can do is keep making the game regardless of what people think.
 
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