Ren'Py Apocalust [v0.09] [Psychodelusional]

[TSL_JOK4R.]

Excuse me! Are there any APOCALUST Fan arts threads ?

the first release isn't out yet we just have the demo so i don't think it has fans yet so no there is no fan arts threads YET.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

NLT with his newest work: The Genesis Order

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Looks similar to Apocalust.
NLT is notorious for beeing the fastest h game dev, we're talking here about updating games every 2 Weeks.
He is working right now on finishing Treasure Of Nadia which have tons of content, wish PsychoDelusional had such work ethic imagine how much awesome scenes Apo already had if he would be faster in delivering content.

 

[Draverik]

NLT with his newest work: The Genesis Order

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Looks similar to Apocalust.
NLT is notorious for beeing the fastest h game dev, we're talking here about updating games every 2 Weeks.
He is working right now on finishing Treasure Of Nadia which have tons of content, wish PsychoDelusional had such work ethic imagine how much awesome scenes Apo already had if he would be faster in delivering content.

I think he forgot to include a metric fucktonne of running around the map in RPGmaker in his trailer, which amounts to like 99% of the gameplay.
Not everyone's about that.

He's also got a lot of experience behind his belt and he knows how to distribute content without overfeeding while still maintaining the illusion of having a decent sized update every month.
Take an average size update for an h-game we're used to on this site. Let's say 500 renders every like 3 months.
NLT would cut that into 5 different releases with 100 renders each + tons of filler content, something like running around the map back and forth solving puzzles and picking up items.
I know that even the rpg-maker portion takes time to create but it's still significantly faster than just showing it through renders alone. Imagine having to show the MC running through a whole town into a jungle, a cave, fighting tigers, snakes or whatever in just renders.
It creates an ilusion of covering a lot of ground, but for 90% of the time you're just moving a rpgmaker character across many different jpeg's.

A lot of detached content like the "kamasutra cards" etc. which don't require any writing and lead-up. Just render a scene and put it in the game, no need for even any context to the scene.

Most devs like to push out whatever they got to this point. Create an update, release everything you got and start working on a new one.
NLT is already deep into production of a new game while still slowly trickling a little bit of Nadia every month.

 

[lipe2410]

In previous updates, Dev said he want make monthly/bi-monthly updates versions with good amount of content. For me, even 3-4 months are reasonable if means content with high quality and good amount for this game. But first of all Devs needs release this fucking 0.1 version that already become a urban legend.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

I think he forgot to include a metric fucktonne of running around the map in RPGmaker in his trailer, which amounts to like 99% of the gameplay.
Not everyone's about that.

He's also got a lot of experience behind his belt and he knows how to distribute content without overfeeding while still maintaining the illusion of having a decent sized update every month.
Take an average size update for an h-game we're used to on this site. Let's say 500 renders every like 3 months.
NLT would cut that into 5 different releases with 100 renders each + tons of filler content, something like running around the map back and forth solving puzzles and picking up items.
I know that even the rpg-maker portion takes time to create but it's still significantly faster than just showing it through renders alone. Imagine having to show the MC running through a whole town into a jungle, a cave, fighting tigers, snakes or whatever in just renders.
It creates an ilusion of covering a lot of ground, but for 90% of the time you're just moving a rpgmaker character across many different jpeg's.

A lot of detached content like the "kamasutra cards" etc. which don't require any writing and lead-up. Just render a scene and put it in the game, no need for even any context to the scene.

Most devs like to push out whatever they got to this point. Create an update, release everything you got and start working on a new one.
NLT is already deep into production of a new game while still slowly trickling a little bit of Nadia every month.

Don't care how he is able to do it only the results are important.
No matter how you twist it apocalust was announced two years ago & everything we got was a tiny demo.
In the meantime NLT made a game with hundreds of h scenes & will start another game soon.
Even DarkCookie is faster & more reliable than psycho with updating his game every 4 months where every part of the game is handdrawn plus he is straming daily on picarto and has also three children to look after.

 

[Cuong2000]

I hope after update 0.1 psychodelusional will update the new version in 1-2 weeks

 

[Draverik]

Don't care how he is able to do it only the results are important.
No matter how you twist it apocalust was announced two years ago & everything we got was a tiny demo.
In the meantime NLT made a game with hundreds of h scenes & will start another game soon.
Even DarkCookie is faster & more reliable than psycho with updating his game every 4 months where every part of the game is handdrawn plus he is straming daily on picarto & and has also three children to look after.

NLT has been making terrible games for years before he made Treasure of Nadia. If you wanna compare the two together then atleast try doing so at a fair ground. You don't even have to go back that much to see what kind of shit he's been cooking before.
And you're comparing a team of seasoned veterans who are doing it professionally for years now to a guy who got his first pc a week ago, that's what it feels like.

I could go and compare NLT to any tripple A studios and that would make him look like an amateur, but what's the point?

And if you want to talk money (since that is the main reason why you're complaining) Dark Cookie makes more money in a
month than psycho in these whole 2 years. And since cookie makes an update every 4 months then i'd say that we give psycho around 6 more years before we start complaining and comparing those two together.

 

[Adabelitoo]

Don't care how he is able to do it only the results are important.

Sure, who cares if one game is developed by a full team while the other is just a solo dev doing everything? In fact, why don't we play a soccerfootball match but my team has 11 players while your has only 3? My team will totally beat the shit out of your team, but hey, it doesn't matter because only the results are important.

Believe me, I'm not trying to defend Pshychodelusional here, it's just that it isn't the first time I read that stupid mentality (I'm pretty sure it isn't the first time I see you glorifying NTL either) where as long as a player has fresh fap material for his dick, nothing else matter and everyone else who doesn't keep pace is lazy/milking/bad/etc.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

NLT has been making terrible games for years before he made Treasure of Nadia. If you wanna compare the two together then atleast try doing so at a fair ground. You don't even have to go back that much to see what kind of shit he's been cooking before.
And you're comparing a team of seasoned veterans who are doing it professionally for years now to a guy who got his first pc a week ago, that's what it feels like.

I could go and compare NLT to any tripple A studios and that would make him look like an amateur, but what's the point?

And if you want to talk money (since that is the main reason why you're complaining) Dark Cookie makes more money in a
month than psycho in these whole 2 years. And since cookie makes an update every 4 months then i'd say that we give psycho around 6 more years before we start complaining and comparing those two together.

What kind of strange statements are these.
NLT & Psycho are both 3d h game devs on patreon, so it is natural to compare the two.
Comparing Eletronic Arts to NLT is ludacris.
Why do you bring up the first game from nlt here ? yeah it was shit like dark neighborhood (PD's first game).
Crazy how you involve old camels only to make up your point, which doesn't even make sense in the first place.
Nope he doesn't have a team, the amount of content that he produces feels like there have to be a lot of people behind nlt
(i give you that) but this isn't the case.
Where did I talk about money? , but fine if this is how you respond:
Icstor makes more money than most of h devs on patreon still he didn't do shit for one and a half years.
Even Icstor have slighly better work ethic as psycho 2 years nothing besides a 5 min teaser, what a joke.
Nah don't need 6 more years, 2 years of empty talk is more than enough to complain.
Another uncomfortable fact for ya DC did release bigger & faster updates when he made less money which mean more money doesn't result in more updates.
Same with Icstor when he made more money he became slower & slower, gumdrop & MrZZ are another example for exactly that.
At the end it depends how reliable the dev is, money only isn't the accelerator of progress, primarily will is.

 

[Deleted member 3006697]

Sure, who cares if one game is developed by a full team while the other is just a solo dev doing everything? In fact, why don't we play a soccerfootball match but my team has 11 players while your has only 3? My team will totally beat the shit out of your team, but hey, it doesn't matter because only the results are important.

Cool story.
From what I know, NLT works alone.

Check out this dev:

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Game has been in development for 2 years, never had even 100 patrons, still releases updates every 30-60 days.
It has less to do with number of people working and more to do with actually working on the game.
If a dev isn't interested in making the game, you can give him all the support and time possible and you will still not get 0.1

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

Sure, who cares if one game is developed by a full team while the other is just a solo dev doing everything? In fact, why don't we play a soccerfootball match but my team has 11 players while your has only 3? My team will totally beat the shit out of your team, but hey, it doesn't matter because only the results are important.

Believe me, I'm not trying to defend Pshychodelusional here, it's just that it isn't the first time I read that stupid mentality (I'm pretty sure it isn't the first time I see you glorifying NTL either) where as long as a player has fresh fap material for his dick, nothing else matter and everyone else who doesn't keep pace is lazy/milking/bad/etc.

Defending psycho, is exactly what youre doing.
Why shouldn't i support reliable devs ?
Dude it depends who is in your team not how many people are part of it.
If one team have only two players consisting of CR7 & Messi & the other have 11 disabled girls who would win huh ?
Only the results matter, afterall were talking about a sex game not launching a rocket.
There is no way how you can defend 2 years of scam, none.
If you still want to try to, go to gumdrop & icstor's thread and keep white knighting there.
Stop spreading such lies NLT is a one man army he doesn't have a team.


What besides of fapping should we do with such kind of games ? write a literature book about it instead ?

Btw this is when the next update of Treasure Of Nadia will be released

And the next update of TON will be 2 weeks after this.

When will Apocalust Version 0.1 released finally ? this month, next month, this year, next year, this decade, next decade or never ? nobody knows!

 

[Adabelitoo]

Defending psycho, is exactly what youre doing.
Why shouldn't i support reliable devs ?
Dude it depends who is in your team not how much people.
If one team have only two players consisting of CR7 & Messi & the other have 11 disabled girls who would win huh ?
Only the results matter, afterall were talking about a sex game not launching a rocket.
There is no way how you can defend 2 years of scam, none.
If you still want to try to, go to gumdrop & icstor's thread and keep white knighting there.
Btw stop spreading such lies Icstor is a one man army he doesn't have a team.
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What besides of fapping should we do with such kind of games ? write a literature book about it instead ?

No, I'm not defending him, I don't give a shit about him, I literally criticized why a short demo like this one has such much popularity 3 pages ago.

You're going completely off-topic here, like sure, talk about disabled people, that totally makes you seem fair... I never named Icstor or Gumdrop either. I never defended anyone's 2 years of scam, I'm also not calling anyone as a scammer. I'm not trying to insult/offend any dev like you do, just that stupid mentality that you and a lot of people like you share.

If dev A is a team made of 5 people working on a game, and dev B is a solo dev who likes to work 20 hours per day on his game, then that great for devs A and B, but don't compare them with dev C who is normal guy who is doing the entire game on his own and works a reasonable amount of time on it. Of course devs A and B will have more progress than C in the same period of time, that doesn't mean that dev C is a bad/lazy/milker developer. Even more importantly, that doesn't give you the right to insult him.

And again, this isn't about Psycho, we could have this same arguement in any other thread and it wouldn't make any difference.

 

[Draverik]

What kind of strange statements are these.
NLT & Psycho are both 3d h game devs on patreon, so it is natural to compare the two.
Comparing Eletronic Arts to NLT is ludacris.
Why do you bring up the first game from nlt here ? yeah it was shit like dark neighborhood (PD's first game).
Crazy how you involve old camels only to make up your point, which doesn't even make sense in the first place.
Nope he doesn't have a team, the amount of content that he produces in a year feels like there have to be a lot of people behind nlt-media (i give you that) but this isn't the case.
Where did I talk about money? , but fine if this is how you respond:
Icstor makes more money than most of h devs on patreon still he didn't do shit for one and a half years.
Even Icstor have slighly better work ethic as psycho 2 years nothing besides a 5 min teaser.
Nah don't need 6 more years, 2 years of empty talk is more than enough to complain.
Another uncomfortable fact for ya DC did release bigger & faster updates when he made less money which mean more money don't result in more updates.
Same with Icstor when he made more money he became slower & slower, gumdrop & MrZZ are another example.
At the end it depends how reliable the dev is, only money isn't the accelerator of progress, primarily will is.

You are conveniently comparing NLT's 6th game to Psychodelusional's 2nd game so naturally i'm gonna bring up his old games to even out the playing field a little bit even though NLT had a lot of experience with making 3d art even before he started making games. A guy who's been living off of making 3d art for 30 years, versus a man who's been dabbling with it in his free time (dunno if it's still the case, but prior to the demo release he was working a normal 9 to 5 job at a warehouse)

And if it wasn't about the money at all then what is the problem?

I'll tell you exactly what the problem is, it's you.
If you weren't so hot headed, joining the discord server and fanboying over an empty promise and a few screenshot, you wouldn't be having any issues now.
When was the last time you got excited about anything other than porn game, with the same dedication and magnitude?

Just do your thing bubba, when it comes it comes, or not, who cares. Don't lose your sleep over some bullshit you're going to be over with in 20 minutes.

You might think that ignoring this shit is enabling other developers to slack off and you're probably right.
But i ain't paying a dime so as long as i'm going to have some content ready for me for free in 2 or 3 years, i'm golden.
I don't want to be playing NLT games exclusively for the rest of my life because he's the only reliable developer. If this sort of behaviour will sprout another million of devs acting the same way, then as long as one of the comes up with a little bit of content for me to play every once in a while then i'm good.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

You are conveniently comparing NLT's 6th game to Psychodelusional's 2nd game so naturally i'm gonna bring up his old games to even out the playing field a little bit even though NLT had a lot of experience with making 3d art even before he started making games. A guy who's been living off of making 3d art for 30 years, versus a man who's been dabbling with it in his free time (dunno if it's still the case, but prior to the demo release he was working a normal 9 to 5 job at a warehouse)

And if it wasn't about the money at all then what is the problem?

I'll tell you exactly what the problem is, it's you.
If you weren't so hot headed, joining the discord server and fanboying over an empty promise and a few screenshot, you wouldn't be having any issues now.
When was the last time you got excited about anything other than porn game, with the same dedication and magnitude?

Just do your thing bubba, when it comes it comes, or not, who cares. Don't lose your sleep over some bullshit you're going to be over with in 20 minutes.

You might think that ignoring this shit is enabling other developers to slack off and you're probably right.
But i ain't paying a dime so as long as i'm going to have some content ready for me for free in 2 or 3 years, i'm golden.
I don't want to be playing NLT games exclusively for the rest of my life because he's the only reliable developer. If this sort of behaviour will sprout another million of devs acting the same way, then as long as one of the comes up with a little bit of content for me to play every once in a while then i'm good.

Instead of admitting your mistakes (like claiming that nlt is a team), you still keep blaming others and keep telling nonsense.
Nowhere did i say you have to play only games of one dev, incredible how you make such conclusions...
You brought up the money argument which was debunked in one sentence.
Nice try to portray me as a incel, mr chad, just strange that you've spent here way more time than i did, correct me if im wrong.
All you have to do is follow his communication and you will understand what was the problem since the announcement of this game but it's okay in your eyes, the one who points out the problem is the problem, seems legit.
That's my point if ignoring such behaviour like the one from icstor, psycho & gumdrop this will let other devs do the same shit over & over.
Such I don't give a shit mentality is exactly what fuels such scammers.

 

[PePeTheCoCk]

No, I'm not defending him, I don't give a shit about him, I literally criticized why a short demo like this one has such much popularity 3 pages ago.

You're going completely off-topic here, like sure, talk about disabled people, that totally makes you seem fair... I never named Icstor or Gumdrop either. I never defended anyone's 2 years of scam, I'm also not calling anyone as a scammer. I'm not trying to insult/offend any dev like you do, just that stupid mentality that you and a lot of people like you share.

If dev A is a team made of 5 people working on a game, and dev B is a solo dev who likes to work 20 hours per day on his game, then that great for devs A and B, but don't compare them with dev C who is normal guy who is doing the entire game on his own and works a reasonable amount of time on it. Of course devs A and B will have more progress than C in the same period of time, that doesn't mean that dev C is a bad/lazy/milker developer. Even more importantly, that doesn't give you the right to insult him.

And again, this isn't about Psycho, we could have this same arguement in any other thread and it wouldn't make any difference.

Thats what makes the difference.
The problem with people like you is that you put everything into perspective.
All you need is numbers (no long novels) to see which dev is more efficient.
Ok what we have is a timeframe of 2 years one year equals 52 weeks x 2 years = 104 : 2 (nlt needs 2 weeks for updates) = 52.
Rule of thumb let's say he released 50 updates with 5 h scenes each which results than in 250.
Psycho on the other hand droped a demo with not even a fraction of it.
Who provided more play time huh ? pretty easy to tell.

Ps Never insulted psycho it was an exaggerated example so that you will understand me right away

 

[Draverik]

Instead of admitting your mistakes (like claiming that nlt is a team), you still keep blaming others and keep telling nonsense.
Nowhere did i say you have to play only games of one dev, incredible how you make such conclusions...
You brought up the money argument which was debunked with one sentence.
Nice try to portray me as a incel, mr chad, just strange that you've spent here way more time than i did, correct me if im wrong.
All you have to do is follow his communication and you will understand what was the problem since the announcement of this game but it's okay in your eyes, the one who points out the problem is the problem, seems legit.
That's my exact point if ignoring such behaviour like the one from icstor, psycho & gumdrop this will let other devs do the same shit over & over.

Well, it was good talking to ya, but it seems you kinda went off track now and you're nitpicking shit i said and showing it out of context acting as if it's a positive reinforcement to your argument. I'm not gonna deflect every single thing individually and try to muscle you into submission, it's getting kinda boring and it's turning into me vs you and nobody wants to read that shit anyways.

 

[Adabelitoo]

Thats what makes the difference.
The problem with people like you is that you put everything into perspective.
All you need is numbers (no long novels) to see which dev is more efficient.
Ok what we have is a timeframe of 2 years one year equals 52 weeks x 2 years = 104 : 2 (nlt needs 2 weeks for updates) = 52.
Rule of thumb let's say he released 50 updates with 5 h scenes each which results than in 250.
Psycho on the other hand droped a demo with not even a fraction of it.
Who provided more play time huh ? pretty easy to tell.

Ps Never insulted psycho it was an exaggerated example so that you will understand me right away

Eto... Besides saying that Psycho has been scamming people for 2 years, you kinda compared some devs with disabled girls... Yeah not insulting at all. Of course I'll put things into perspective. That isn't a problem, that's common sense from a human being. Now I get why you think that way if you don't even get that. I'm also a number's guy so I can play your game with pleasure.

- Dev A makes 52 updates in two year with 5 sex scenes each so 260 in total.
- Dev B makes 8 updates in two years with 5 sex scenes each so 40 in total.

That means dev A is better/works more, right? Not necessarily. If dev A makes sex scenes with only 1 animation while dev B makes sex scenes with 8 animation, then you have 260x1 = 260 for dev A and 40x8 = 320 for dev B. If you got fooled because dev A releases updates faster then that's your problem but the case is that dev B is better/works harder following that criteria only. Not let's suppose that dev A has 2 animations per sex scene so it becomes 520 to 320, is dev A better now? Not necessarily. If dev A is 20yo who lives with his parents and has his own private place to work in the game and dev B is 40yo who has to take care of his childrens because they're at home all day long due to COVID and can't work in a private plce because he needs to have his kids in sight, would you still think dev A is better when dev B makes so much with so little?.

Yes, of course I'll put things into perspective. Saying that that is "whiteknighting" is like calling a simp to a man because he gave the minimum amount of respect to a woman. I think that thinking "Don't care how he is able to do it only the results are important." is like saying "I don't give a shit about anything else as long as my dick has fresh fap material".

It isn't the first time we argue about this, I guess it also won't be the last, but I'm done with you for now. Just please don't keep insulting others, okay? Be polite please.

 

[Cuong2000]

Psycho said there will be 0.1 version in 3-4 weeks so let's wait and see if he does what he says
(I hope after version 0.1 he will update the new version regularly about 1-2 weeks)
(Sorry for my english)

 

[DanThaMan]

Psycho said there will be 0.1 version in 3-4 weeks so let's wait and see if he does what he says
(I hope after version 0.1 he will update the new version regularly about 1-2 weeks)
(Sorry for my english)

Lol.. you think this guy will update the game every one to two weeks? it took him 2 years to develop what we have so far..

 

[Cuong2000]

Lol.. you think this guy will update the game every one to two weeks? it took him 2 years to develop what we have so far..

maybe 1 month (I think in those 2 years he hasn't done anything and this year he just started working): không chắc: