First time experiencing this. Very good presentation and intriguing story. I am not sure how I feel about the more darker side of it, but I enjoy the setting.
I had the same feeling, too little info for now to know how dark we'll be talking about, or what the implications will be later on.
But it certainly is off to a good start.
agree to disagree, obviously not to pry on the dev just to clarify my point: even in the warning there is a blatant mistake. "most western country". and afterwards: "Use minigame" or "her (the infection) pollen". as a non native speaker, I had to look up what pollen meant and yeah.. unless flowers are the ones taking over the world.. it's probably not the right word. not really a promising start, for those who care a little more, but I agree that it may be good enough for many.
I am not going to list any more because I am not here to bully or pressurize anyone. but what you said is just false in my opinion. Personally, I prefer a simpler structure but with a good core than the opposite. and this stuff is in my experience quite easy to learn with some dedication, which he clearly has for the game.
just because there are other games which are worse in this doesn't make what I'm reading any better.. and as you can see I am not policing anyone else because I couldn't care less abt many of those Russian/Spanish/whatever (English/American as well of course) generic hs2 games with generic characters. this one is very interesting and that's why I wanted to share what I think is fair criticism.
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Go get 'em folks. I worked my ass off for days getting this year-old product up to the modern era.
Some stats I ran last night in the mod's thread, each required complete recode per item (over a thousand):
Some stats I ran last night in the mod's thread, each required complete recode per item (over a thousand):
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- Total clickables: ~1,080
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I tried the mod sancho, it works fine, but I'm afraid to say that aside from some choices (for the routes mostly), it's not very useful on this game 
The problem is not from the mod of course, but from the branching of choices down the line, which I do not think your mod can compensate for.
Like a choice might seem good for some stats, but will instead make you miss on other opportunities for points. And I honestly do not think you can do better, it's just how this game is designed I recon.
For the wellbeing minigame, It seems impossible to get to 30, so I'm guessing there's a wild wellbeing point hidden somewhere before the event.
I've noticed that very early in the butt rubbing one, you gain one point, which you loose immediately. I suspect this was not intended.
I just redid a "ctrl pushed playthrough" and inspected he others choices, but I do not see how to get her to 30 or more on that event. It just remains at 29.
The problem is not from the mod of course, but from the branching of choices down the line, which I do not think your mod can compensate for.
Like a choice might seem good for some stats, but will instead make you miss on other opportunities for points. And I honestly do not think you can do better, it's just how this game is designed I recon.
For the wellbeing minigame, It seems impossible to get to 30, so I'm guessing there's a wild wellbeing point hidden somewhere before the event.
I've noticed that very early in the butt rubbing one, you gain one point, which you loose immediately. I suspect this was not intended.
I just redid a "ctrl pushed playthrough" and inspected he others choices, but I do not see how to get her to 30 or more on that event. It just remains at 29.
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As noted in the MiniStat, the WB pnts are randomly awarded... that said, RenPy's random is not as random as one might think. For the best "odds" of successful "random" once you get a WB pnt for one butt option (repeat the same option until you get a WB pnt), move to another option, then rinse/repeat. I get 30+ more times than not this way. If all else fails, SanchoGallery will get you done... no random BS there.
Otherwise there's no way for me to write the Guide better since none of us know what stats will be desired as many of the stats have zero effect to date... so I can only list what you will get, and not what you will receive... since we don't know any of the outcomes yet. This is always the case in new VN's. We have to wait for the actual outcomes then an proper guide can be established.
There's really only two routes so far: Jess' Sober/Alcoholic and Sub/Init. That's it. These are combo routes (so you can have, for example, Sober/Sub, or Sober/Init, etc). Both of those are changed in real-time in the stat screens and are noted within choices, even with SanchoNotes (an example note the Red arrows below):
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Just to be clear, I am in no way criticizing your hard work, which is always appreciated
As for me, I've never once (even on the previous version) managed to get the butt event to completion, it always ended at 29.
For the points, it's not so much as desired, but, in several instances, there were submenus, which had equivalent of better points down the line. This is what I mean. It happened a couple of times, so I suspect, as time flies and versions increases, it'll get even "worse".
What I mean, is that for this game, your mod may induce people on the "wrong path" (sorry lacking better words here), because "better choices" will be available on a submenu.
I don't think there's much you can do about it. While it does happen on some VN than the submenus of submenus have higher points attributions, this one seems to have fairly deep levels of choices, which I assume are a nightmare for you and other moders to keep track of.
As for the butt shower rubbing scene, I've tried with your mod without the magazine, and I could not get it to completion either, despite the points being clearly visible.
I wonder if the dev could confirm if the butt shower rubbing is possible or not if you go to her bed, instead of using the magazine?
I really do believe this event should have its goal lowered, since it seems incredibly difficult to make it happen.
As for me, I've never once (even on the previous version) managed to get the butt event to completion, it always ended at 29.
For the points, it's not so much as desired, but, in several instances, there were submenus, which had equivalent of better points down the line. This is what I mean. It happened a couple of times, so I suspect, as time flies and versions increases, it'll get even "worse".
What I mean, is that for this game, your mod may induce people on the "wrong path" (sorry lacking better words here), because "better choices" will be available on a submenu.
I don't think there's much you can do about it. While it does happen on some VN than the submenus of submenus have higher points attributions, this one seems to have fairly deep levels of choices, which I assume are a nightmare for you and other moders to keep track of.
As for the butt shower rubbing scene, I've tried with your mod without the magazine, and I could not get it to completion either, despite the points being clearly visible.
I wonder if the dev could confirm if the butt shower rubbing is possible or not if you go to her bed, instead of using the magazine?
I really do believe this event should have its goal lowered, since it seems incredibly difficult to make it happen.
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I'm confirming it. This is without a mag. Again, I can get it more often than not, as I previously wrote. Don't caress her face at all until you get the 30+.
That said, 29+ won't work since it can be achieved with zero randomness of it not occurring. If the threshold is lowered then you'd be "stuck" at 28. It's meant to be difficult to achieve, otherwise a number as high as 30 wouldn't have been used, something lower than half a dozen would have been (imho). -Awake- will have to chime in to confirm I'm 100% on target, but I can confirm it's possible. I did it dozens of times while writing the Guide.
Is it annoying? Yes. But I don't write 'em, I just mod 'em. I find the UI cumbersome if I'm being honest. It's broke too, there's a serious bug that's been present since the VN was first release regarding the ability to loose inventory items... but that's another story for another time.
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Hi. Big fan.
I freshly downloaded the game and the mod today. I'm getting errors when I try to access the mod in the escape menu, and when I try to click "Next" on the ministats.
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I see.
The dev did not declare that variable and I put it in the stats after I already had it in game.
No worries.
That'll get you done.
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SanchoMod Maintenance Update (Critical)
Links in mod's OP are updated accordingly.
Changlelog:
- Resolves a VN undefined variable that caused an exception in the stat screens early-game as reported here.
Thanks to ryansFLYIN for bringing it to my attention.
I must be remarkably stupid then, because I've never managed it without saving, editing the save, and loading it in the middle of the event :S
you need to be on the initiative path, there's an extra option that pops up for initiative that will get you to 22 before the massage rng sectionJust to be clear, I am in no way criticizing your hard work, which is always appreciated
As for me, I've never once (even on the previous version) managed to get the butt event to completion, it always ended at 29.
if you are on the alcoholic path, you will also get these scene
Hey!
Thank you for the grammatical corrections, if you liked the game and you find more of this type of error, be cool and don't hesitate to send them back to me in order to help me improve the game experience of other player like you!
I even planned a dedicated discord channel specifically for this:
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This, however, is not an error. Pollen, these tiny and volatile grains, are, like spores, at the heart of the Apocalypse Lovers lore.
You are not bullying or pressuring anyone by pointing out some spelling mistakes and I strongly encourage you to continue to do so. This allows me to improve the game for future players.
I know I have some weakness in english. I'm french and I'm translating my text myself and I'm loosing a lot of time to be sure the meaning of what I'm writting in french is the same in english. But it's not easy because in french, I have very good writing skills. This means that my sentences often have a long structure while remaining readable, and elegant while being embellished with complex but relevant words. But saddly my way of translating these kinds of sentences into English can produce a strange result, I agree. And I'm really afraid of certain translations of expressions whose meaning has nothing to do between the two languages. So I admit, I always favor comprehension rather than form or spelling.
That being said, I will do my best to keep trying to bring you the best quality content possible.
Thank you!
Yeah, on the alcoholism path (submission initiative here doesn't really matter) she's already relaxed, so you'll get to that scene more easily. But you will miss some previous scenes like the butt massage for example.
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Good morning (CST). No, you are not stupid at all. As stated it's random and likely too low a percentage to be achieved for most Player's. I'll see what I can do on my end to assist the dev in making it more accessible. It could be as simple as removing the random WB pnts and simply awarding a specific amount of WB pnts on a per choice basis.
So, please don't take my previous replies as you or anyone being naive or otherwise. That was and is not my intention, at this point I'm only attempting to assist. Regards.