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I don't think even Tolkien is capable of writing a redemption arc for that bitch. She can take her tits and fuck off MC's life.
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A child Killer like Vador can have a redemption but Big Mouth Cass can't ?
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Meh, those kids were fucking annoying anyway.A child Killer like Vador can have a redemption but Big Mouth Cass can't ?
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We'll set our calendars for your return.
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Hey I am not buying the fireworks this time! No one pitched in the last time.
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First of all,A child Killer like Vador can have a redemption but Big Mouth Cass can't ?
Big mouth forced our MC to suicide if not DK; then it has been showed she was a dick and bully to our dearest Kindra and on top of that she thought she was helping to her in her deranged way; she basically used Nicholas to achieve her goals in TWRR; after everything happened she had the guts to blame MC for everything she did and even implied he deserved it; after that she sent people after MC and Kindra; she lied about MC and blamed him and Kindra for stealing at a public interview if not Kindra, she would have publicly execute MC's and Kindra's credibility without even having second thoughts; she fucked over Reina and her company for her own fuck ups and caused multiple people fired from their jobs and also caused huge dive for Vitas(Reina's company) in the market; also cost entire PR department at TWRR to their job and she dared to mock them while the person who just got fired presence; then simply threatened Reina for more, just for getting MC's phone number; she also sent people with guns to break in to Kindra's place; she fucked up a child's mind for the sake of it within a few seconds she met her etc. She never showed remorse, she even thinks she is the rightful one.
Vader was always remorseful about his situation, he made mistakes and owned them. Even though he was a feared person, he did not commit unnecessary evil. You mentioned younglings, it was an order for him and also a test for choosing dark side. He could have done so much more, could have turn into real Sith Lord but he did not. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify what he did but we are comparing an evil villain to Big Mouth and that evil villain comes short in his evilness in their own capabilities. So, what I am trying to say if Vulvamort had Vader's abilities and power, she would have destroyed galaxies for the sake of it. She would have been perfect apprentice for Palpatine.
All in all, some people are beyond redemption and that is that. Maybe she could have justify how she was with some childhood trauma but no way bring back what she took from people. Btw, I can see they are gonna explain her evil self with her father and her relationship with her father, I am sure of it. Especially after the lab scene after she bullied Kindra and MC wanted to meet her father.But,
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First of all,
Big mouth forced our MC to suicide if not DK; then it has been showed she was a dick and bully to our dearest Kindra and on top of that she thought she was helping to her in her deranged way; she basically used Nicholas to achieve her goals in TWRR; after everything happened she had the guts to blame MC for everything she did and even implied he deserved it; after that she sent people after MC and Kindra; she lied about MC and blamed him and Kindra for stealing and if not Kindra at a public interview, she would have publicly execute MC's and Kindra's credibility without even having second thoughts; she fucked over Reina and her company for her own fuck ups and caused multiple people fired from their jobs and also caused huge dive for Vitas(Reina's company) in the market; also caused entire HR department at TWRR to their job and she dared to mock them while the person who just got fired presence; then simply threaten Reina for more just for getting MC's phone number; she also sent people with guns to break in Kindra's place; she fucked up a child's mind for the sake of it within a few seconds she met her etc. She never showed remorse, she even thinks she is the rightful one.
Vader was always remorseful about his situation, he made mistakes and owned them. Even though he was a feared person, he did not commit unnecessary evil. You mentioned younglings, it was an order for him and also a test for choosing dark side. He could have done so much more, could have turn into real Sith Lord but he did not. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify what he did but we are comparing an evil villain to Big Mouth and that evil villain comes short in his evilness in their own capabilities. So, what I am trying to say if Vulvamort had Vader's abilities and power, she would have destroyed galaxies for the sake of it. She would have been perfect apprentice for Palpatine.
All in all, some people are beyond redemption and that is that. Maybe she could have justify how she was with some childhood trauma but no way bring back what she took from people. Btw, I can see they are gonna explain her evil self with her father and her relationship with her father, I am sure of it. Especially after the lab scene after she bullied Kindra and MC wanted to meet her father.But,
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here is one for youYeah sorry, time to time I tend to create textwalls.
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A child Killer like Vador can have a redemption but Big Mouth Cass can't ?
First: Everything about Vulvamort said here is spot on (for me). Second, those are some rose-colored Vader Eyes you're looking with.First of all,
Big mouth forced our MC to suicide if not DK; then it has been showed she was a dick and bully to our dearest Kindra and on top of that she thought she was helping to her in her deranged way; she basically used Nicholas to achieve her goals in TWRR; after everything happened she had the guts to blame MC for everything she did and even implied he deserved it; after that she sent people after MC and Kindra; she lied about MC and blamed him and Kindra for stealing at a public interview if not Kindra, she would have publicly execute MC's and Kindra's credibility without even having second thoughts; she fucked over Reina and her company for her own fuck ups and caused multiple people fired from their jobs and also caused huge dive for Vitas(Reina's company) in the market; also cost entire PR department at TWRR to their job and she dared to mock them while the person who just got fired presence; then simply threatened Reina for more, just for getting MC's phone number; she also sent people with guns to break in to Kindra's place; she fucked up a child's mind for the sake of it within a few seconds she met her etc. She never showed remorse, she even thinks she is the rightful one.
Vader was always remorseful about his situation, he made mistakes and owned them. Even though he was a feared person, he did not commit unnecessary evil. You mentioned younglings, it was an order for him and also a test for choosing dark side. He could have done so much more, could have turn into real Sith Lord but he did not. Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to justify what he did but we are comparing an evil villain to Big Mouth and that evil villain comes short in his evilness in their own capabilities. So, what I am trying to say if Vulvamort had Vader's abilities and power, she would have destroyed galaxies for the sake of it. She would have been perfect apprentice for Palpatine.
All in all, some people are beyond redemption and that is that. Maybe she could have justify how she was with some childhood trauma but no way bring back what she took from people. Btw, I can see they are gonna explain her evil self with her father and her relationship with her father, I am sure of it. Especially after the lab scene after she bullied Kindra and MC wanted to meet her father.But,
The fact that he's remorseful and sad and STILL kills all those kids just 'cause he thinks it'll save Padme (yes, he's trying to save his estranged wife who's not yet hurt and he's going to damage himself later) is a choice he makes that feels quite unnecessary. Does he have to do it to get the Sith Lord's help? Yea. But that's a choice, not a "necessary evil" ... it's just an evil choice.
Once he goes Darth, the only thing he ever shows regret for (in the movies) is failure. Even the choice to save Luke isn't about regret, it's about his legacy, and choosing his son over his Master (who over the years kinda proved less-than-reliable, and even moments before told Luke to kill Vader and replace him, so loyalty not exactly big in their line of work). The fact that he felt some good in himself killing the emperor and saving his son can just as easily be viewed as vanity on his part.
(And if you add in all the non-movie material, Vader may not have destroyed galaxies (you know, 'cause they only lived in one), but he certainly destroyed countless lives and even some whole societies.)
Also, do people who see 1-6 in chronological order feel the same about Vader's redemption as those who see them in release order (4-6, 1-3)? I know I don't feel as good about the redemption story after seeing the prequels as I did before seeing them.
TL/DR: Vulvamort is beyond redemption (belongs in a rubber room, IMHO). Vader's redemption is sketchy, in hindsight (or at least after the prequels were made).
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I mean, if Cass would sacrifice herself to safe the MC's or Kendra's life she could be forgiven (post mortem), like VaderYeah sorry, time to time I tend to create textwalls.
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I would find that so out of character it might ruin the game for me ... I know there's at least 12 more chapters to work on such a change, but right now I can't see it ... and the writing would have to be fantastic to pull it off.I mean, if Cass would sacrifice herself to safe the MC's or Kendra's life she could be forgiven (post mortem), like Vader