VN Ren'Py Artemis [v0.6.2b] [digi.B]

[Jarulf]

Cas has done too much to the MC for him to easily trust her again, a redemption arc would have to be pretty special for that. That said, one could be pretty interesting to follow. People do have life changing experiences and can come to regret past actions and behavior, even to the point that they really try to make up for what they've done.

I've no idea, obviously if this is in the cards for Cas and I have a very hard time seeing her become a LI again. What could possibly happen is her becoming an ally of sorts, not quite a friend but someone who tries to help.
So, while she'll still probably be a rather unpleasant person, her arc could see her struggling with finding herself completely friendless, even jobless and trying to be a better person.
Even nasty people can have interesting stories.

 

[Elhemeer]

Spoiler Alert, Vader redemption is basically comitting suicide by killing both himself and Palpatine. He basically did a Gollum from the LOTR. That is acceptable. The last deed they did was a good thing for humanity in general, but they didn't get happy life and happy ending for it. Sorry, not sorry for those who haven't watched Star Wars saga and the LOTR trilogy.

Now, if Vulvamort redemption going to be she becomes a LI, gets back together with MC, geting married, have kids etc. then I guess it can trigger players to go on a witchhunt against digi.b.

Vulvamort redemption ( if there is even going to be one ) should be just the same like Vader and Gollum, dead to save the MC ( or his LI for example ), but no happy life and/or happy ending for her.

More Gollum than Vader would make sense for me ... still trying to get one over on everyone but manages to help MC (and everyone else in his life) by happenstance.

EDIT: Again, it'll all come down to what digi wants to do and how well he does it.

 

[Jarulf]

It's been awhile since I read them, but didn't Gollum basically just slip and fall?

 

[Elhemeer]

It's been awhile since I read them, but didn't Gollum basically just slip and fall?

Well, no, first he attacked Frodo, bit his finger off and got the ring off him, THEN he slipped and fell WITH the ring destroying it and himself and saving Frodo and the entire Middle-Earth ... definitely not something he intended to do.

 

[JohnF95zone]

Cas has done too much to the MC for him to easily trust her again, a redemption arc would have to be pretty special for that. That said, one could be pretty interesting to follow. People do have life changing experiences and can come to regret past actions and behavior, even to the point that they really try to make up for what they've done.

I've no idea, obviously if this is in the cards for Cas and I have a very hard time seeing her become a LI again. What could possibly happen is her becoming an ally of sorts, not quite a friend but someone who tries to help.
So, while she'll still probably be a rather unpleasant person, her arc could see her struggling with finding herself completely friendless, even jobless and trying to be a better person.
Even nasty people can have interesting stories.

Precisely that, her proper redemption arc will take a big chunk of the story/game which dilute or shift the focus from the MC.

It is just me probably but I rather play for the MC and I really hope the focus ( other than the MC ) will be more towards Artemis, the titular character and the LI of choice.

More Gollum than Vader would make sense for me ... still trying to get one over on everyone but manages to help MC (and everyone else in his life) by happenstance.

Spot on.

EDIT: Again, it'll all come down to what digi wants to do and how well he does it.

Yeah, that's the best part of it. Really looking forward to it.

It's been awhile since I read them, but didn't Gollum basically just slip and fall?

Yeah, his last deed ( greed ) basically saves Middle-Earth, unintentional/accidental 'redemption'.

 

[hunterashton21]

Well there goes my chance of watching Star Wars

 

[Jarulf]

Frodo and the entire Middle-Earth ... definitely not something he intended to do.

Yup, that's what I meant. What I was actually getting at, and this is getting OT, was that Gollum didn't have a redemption arc. He got what he wanted and died for it, because of a simple accident. He didn't try to do something good.

Either way, it'll be fun to see what Digi.b has in store for us

 

[Jarulf]

It is just me probably but I rather play for the MC and I really hope the focus ( other than the MC ) will be more towards Artemis, the titular character and the LI of choice.

It's just you I actually don't particularly like the MC all that much tbh.
Of course the story should focus on him, but I also think other interesting characters can get some attention. And, obviously, I want to see a lot of Artemis herself.

 

[Jarulf]

Well there goes my chance of watching Star Wars

You're not missing much, only two of the movies in the Skywalker-saga are any good anyway
/ducks and hides

 

[Phase_01]

Easy solution for ppl that just want Cassandra for sex slave purposes:
Kill her character off, use her body/dna for a template for a new bio-android hybrid prototype.

Name it Vulvanator or Vulvatron, have rough hardcore sex, done
None of the bad and all of the good

 

[BrockLanders]

I mean, if Cass would sacrifice herself to safe the MC's or Kendra's life she could be forgiven (post mortem), like Vader

Is there even a tag on F95 for necrophilia?

 

[xapican]

Is there even a tag on F95 for necrophilia?

Yes, (Raptus) but I don't wish her to die (just to be my and >>insert name of LI<< Slave and playball

 

[Raziel_8]

I would find that so out of character it might ruin the game for me ... I know there's at least 12 more chapters to work on such a change, but right now I can't see it ... and the writing would have to be fantastic to pull it off.

Oh i completely agree with you on that. I can't see that happen, at least for now.

Is there even a tag on F95 for necrophilia?

Don't worry about that, we will find a nice volcano or reactor core for her last good deed, there won't be any remains left

 

[Defenestrator.for.traitor]

Well there goes my chance of watching Star Wars

Hey at least no one said Vader is Anakin and he is father of Luke and Leia.

I would find that so out of character it might ruin the game for me ... I know there's at least 12 more chapters to work on such a change, but right now I can't see it ... and the writing would have to be fantastic to pull it off.

First of all, it would be too out of character for her, but if something like that happens I will think it was Vulvamort look alike, maybe a robot looks like her, and I would think that sacrifice probably a part of a grand scheme. She will come back to hurt MC and others more. Like Moriarty did it to Sherlock etc.

I mean, if Cass would sacrifice herself to safe the MC's or Kendra's life she could be forgiven (post mortem), like Vader

Seconded.

.....

You are kinda right, I have a soft spot for Vader but I am behind what I said. Vulvamort is much more evil than Vader in their own accord. If she had fraction of Vader powers we would see how she would surpass Vader in her evilness. She is just a bitch who happens to know people and she fucked beyond counting people's life. Like Nicholas said she should have come with a warning label.

pic ...

Yeah that is me alright, especially when I talk about evil bitches.

Kill her character off, use her body/dna for a template for a new bio-android hybrid prototype.

No no no no no, what if she reborn or something. Can't risk it.

 

[cumsumnida]

........

Dropped by to see what was going on with the game and wow, time sure flies by.

I totally forgot the last update was from last Halloween when this and Being A DIK did the Halloween ep thing. Might be the longest time between updates since Chapter 2 got released.

I'm just hoping to see improvements with the lewd animations and some model tweaks (those twins look weird).

 

[HogRocket]

A child Killer like Vador can have a redemption but Big Mouth Cass can't ?

no redemption arc for Vulvamort.
no redemption acr for Vader. (as far as I'm concerned)

Of course; I was off the "redemption for Vader" as soon as he showed up as a skinny, wimpy, whinny, floppy haired, emo, edgelord. Ruined the whole franchise for me. Never finished the rest of the movies.

 

[comte bonfim]

I'd love to have an arc where Vulvamort attempts to jump from a building and you get the options to either reach out and grab her, or let her fall. She would fall.

I understand some people may be inclined to offer help and help her with a redemption arc, but I'd also argue that some people just don't deserve second chances, I really hope we get to see either that or something similar in the story where heavy choices would be as impactful as this. That's my opinion either way.

 

[PervyParadox]

I'd love to have an arc where Vulvamort attempts to jump from a building and you get the options to either reach out and grab her, or let her fall. She would fall.

I understand some people may be inclined to offer help and help her with a redemption arc, but I'd also argue that some people just don't deserve second chances, I really hope we get to see either that or something similar in the story where heavy choices would be as impactful as this. That's my opinion either way.

That's not an argument then, just an opinion. My opinion is that everyone deserves a second chance and a redemption arc. I'd reach out to help her not die. She didn't kill anyone anyway so she doesn't deserve to die, period. And even if, it would be more satisfying to watch her fail and be mad about it rather than just killing her or letting her die.

You guys are so bitter, sheesh. She didn't try to genocide humanity, calm down people. You want to hate a character fine, but at least be funny about it. I don't know, like, photoshop a picture of her with a vulve for a face or something.

 

[comte bonfim]

That's not an argument then, just an opinion.

You guys are so bitter, sheesh.

I understand some people may be inclined to offer help and help her with a redemption arc, but I'd also argue that some people just don't deserve second chances, I really hope we get to see either that or something similar in the story where heavy choices would be as impactful as this. That's my opinion either way.

I did say that, though. And I get it, it's not like she killed someone in the game to be this hated as she is, but the traumas she inflicted, the bullying she did and everything else wrong she did and the impact in someone else's life isn't something to be overlooked either just because no one got injured physically, that's the consequence of overlooking something that could drastically fuck your whole life up if you're not a strong willed person, and guess what? Most people aren't, and even if you did get to see her fail miserably and be as salty as she can be because of it, at the end of the day, that's exactly the type of story that pushes someone to commit a crime, frustration is a villain's making machine, there's even a saying out there.

I could argue that I don't hate her guts for just hating her, what I'm saying is I would love to see an arc where we get to pick heavier-paths like, well, the one I mentioned, not specifically that one just things like that as a potential outcome to what she did in those, include the MCs, lives.

 

[Walter Victor]

Cassie is the main antagonist in this game. As such, she provides conflict, which adds depth to the game. She's a villain, so we all get to boo and hiss at her machinations. By our choices, we get to thwart her evil deeds, which make us feel better [not that they're all that difficult to thwart, so far] whenever she fails.

Would this game be better if she were never in it? Think about that.

Cassie is there because the developer thought it would make the game more interesting and believable. I agree.

I do say, though, that a redemption arc for her would be counter-productive. But, if she were to be removed before the end, wouldn't there have to something added to replace her?